Resampling Basslines

[skawe]

I was talking to my music teacher the other day, he said he Resamples his bass lines about 30 times. Is that like a standard thing to do? And do you do it on all your basslines?

Just wandering really, kinda new round ere...

[truncated]

yes, pretty standard practise in dnb,

i use the same technique in dubstep, it gets you those really twisted type sounds rather than just a plain wobble.

think noisia type twisted.

but yeh give it a go it takes a while to get anything good rather than some horrible squelch that is unusable, but when you get it right you won't regret the time you put into it.

also split into high/mid/low and treat each part with different effects, the resample etc etc

[skawe]

ah, i better get practising then, noisia are mental, my fravorite dnb producers of all time

cheers man

[deadly_habit]

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[skawe]

http://www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.ph ... 3&cache=77

Safe

[deadly_habit]

whoops meant to link this one
http://www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.ph ... &cache=100

[slothrop]

yes, pretty standard practise in dnb,

Although some uncharitable types would suggest that this is part of the reason that so much modern dnb is so fucking boring...

[truncated]

yes, pretty standard practise in dnb,

Although some uncharitable types would suggest that this is part of the reason that so much modern dnb is so fucking boring...

I find the d&b that uses the technique to be the better parts of the genre tbh,


the music that doesn't is usually more simple and boring.

its a technique blaim tthe person using it, not the actual technique

[deadly_habit]

yea imo alot of what makes modern dnb boring is over engineering and not enough focus on actual vibes
like truncated said don't blame the technique, blame people trying to be carbon copy clones of the latest hot producer/track

[slothrop]

yes, pretty standard practise in dnb,

Although some uncharitable types would suggest that this is part of the reason that so much modern dnb is so fucking boring...

I find the d&b that uses the technique to be the better parts of the genre tbh,


the music that doesn't is usually more simple and boring.

its a technique blaim tthe person using it, not the actual technique

I dunno, it just seems to be a part of a mindset that emphasises really precise and anal optimization of certain specific sounds (eg a big buzzy roaring reese or a harsh sounding snare) within really strictly defined parameters rather than doing anything striking or unexpected.

I mean, I've heard a bunch of stuff from people who spend four days EQing their snares or resample their basslines 57 times or whatever and while they're often very good sounding snares or basslines they're often very good sounding in pretty much the same way as everyone else in their subgenre, so you kind of wonder what the point was.

I dunno, maybe it's more something I'd see as a symptom than a cause - if you've actually got new ideas coming out at a rate of knots or you're in a young fresh genre then in the time it takes to create a bass sound, split it into 57 frequency bands, process each one with a different compressor / chorus / distortion combo, combine it back together, resample it 15 times, let it stew in its own reverb for three days and then regen it through an old shoe for that oaky timbre you could have written another five tunes that push the genre in new and unexpected directions.

I guess I'm being a bit unfair here and you could reasonably point out that my tunes are pretty boring and my basslines don't sound very good so I should stfu. But I dunno, the idea that this should be some sort of standard still bothers me...

[truncated]

i agree to a certain extent, d&b has definately switched from new original ideas to music for producers to ogle over,

used to be all about the feeling and making people dance and now really its just producers trying to out do each other,

which is why i like making dubstep so much i can do something weird and rough round the edges, makes it more fun.

[ali jamieson]

i resample almost everything, gets real signiture sounds... saves processing power too [if you bounce with vsts for example] the sue sampler's own filter = more control

also sounds more cohesive imho

[spencertron]

the idea that this should be some sort of standard still bothers me...

agree...

odd that somebody would say this is a standard, sure, resampling is great, but as standard, must do thing, standard since when? ...if you get the sound you want before resampling?

[truncated]

I meant standard as in its a technique a lot of people use not as in a production standard everyone aspires to

[serox]

Why do they resample so much? what are they actually doing each time for example?

[skawe]

whoops meant to link this one
http://www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.ph ... &cache=100

Yeh, but reeses were my next question, so its all good

[setspeed]

I dunno, it just seems to be a part of a mindset that emphasises really precise and anal optimization of certain specific sounds (eg a big buzzy roaring reese or a harsh sounding snare) within really strictly defined parameters rather than doing anything striking or unexpected.

I mean, I've heard a bunch of stuff from people who spend four days EQing their snares or resample their basslines 57 times or whatever and while they're often very good sounding snares or basslines they're often very good sounding in pretty much the same way as everyone else in their subgenre, so you kind of wonder what the point was.

I dunno, maybe it's more something I'd see as a symptom than a cause - if you've actually got new ideas coming out at a rate of knots or you're in a young fresh genre then in the time it takes to create a bass sound, split it into 57 frequency bands, process each one with a different compressor / chorus / distortion combo, combine it back together, resample it 15 times, let it stew in its own reverb for three days and then regen it through an old shoe for that oaky timbre you could have written another five tunes that push the genre in new and unexpected directions.

totally agree!

[black lotus]

why resample?

because it is also fun, and no matter how much processing you do resampling has a character of it's own that a synth will never be able to re-create.

[spencertron]

why resample?

because it is also fun. and no matter how much processing you do resampling has a character of it's own that a synth will never be able to re-create.

standard. agreed

but...im not actually asking 'why resample'...my tunes are rife with resampling

(was @ at the thread starters post. i.e. being toldthat it is the standard you must do it do every time in every tune...makes you wonder why?)

perhaps it's a wind-up

[serox]

(was @ at the thread starters post. i.e. being toldthat it is the standard you must do it do every time in every tune...makes you wonder why?)

Thats what I want to know.

Why do people resample so much. What kind of processing are they doing?