post-punk/post-punk/math-rock/whatever it's called

b-lam · Post by **b-lam** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:33 pm

eeez!

looking for some recommendations, avid fan of converge, refused, the end, dillinger escape plan etc...

anything you guys rate in this area? looking for solid albums preferably but fire away. also looking for more chilled stuff in this area...

Thanks in advance

Pi-Krust · Post by **Pi-Krust** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:37 pm

Tortoise probably fall under post-rock/jazz, their best albums imo are Tortoise,Millions Living Will Now Never Die,TNT and Standards.The Ex are dutch post -punkers and the album they did with ethiopian jazz legend Getatchu Merkuria - Moa Anbessa is pretty cool. You Should also check out Battles and Don Caballero on the post rock /math rock side of things.

Littlefoot · Post by **Littlefoot** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:22 pm

the kinda bands your not into but this world of music is my speciality

start with Slint, Shellac, Gang of 4, The Pop Group

that kinda stuff

deepfiend · Post by **deepfiend** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:40 pm

Post-Punk
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A Certain Ratio
Comsat Angels
Mission of Burma
Public Image LTD.
The Birthday Party
Killing Joker
Television
Bauhaus

(elements of) Math Rock
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Don Cabbellro
65daysofstatic
Big Black
Bastro

b-lam · Post by **b-lam** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:00 pm

cheers for all the replies, will get to work looking up all these!

b-lam · Post by **b-lam** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:04 pm

the_paulo wrote: Well, all the bands listed above aren't any of the genre's described in the title.

what would you say is a more fitting genre name?

seen them labelled as hardcore - but they have so little in common with other hardcore bands, I really can't see it..
also seen mathcore, but honestly, I don't feel comfortable running around saying I love mathcore

Littlefoot · Post by **Littlefoot** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:17 pm

B-LAM wrote:
the_paulo wrote: Well, all the bands listed above aren't any of the genre's described in the title.
what would you say is a more fitting genre name?

seen them labelled as hardcore - but they have so little in common with other hardcore bands, I really can't see it..
also seen mathcore, but honestly, I don't feel comfortable running around saying I love mathcore

mathcore sounds bonkers buts its defo more fitting than the three other genres you mentioned!

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:45 pm

Mogwai, 65daysofstatic, at the drive in/mars volta is math rock/post rock, right?

If so, I quite like it

+torment+ · Post by **+torment+** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:27 am

a couple of my personal faves:

A Minor Forest - Flemish Altruisim cd (Thrill Jockey)

A Minor Forest - In Independence cd (Thrill Jockey)

A Minor Forest - ... So, Were they in some sort of fight? cd (My Pal God)

get these^

and the legendary ..

RODAN - Rusty (Quarterstick)

somejerk · Post by **somejerk** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:28 pm

at the drive-in

casioboy · Post by **casioboy** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:28 pm

If you are looking for Post punk, strictly post punk, i would suggest Wire - 154, probably one of the best albums ever recorded.

Littlefoot · Post by **Littlefoot** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:43 pm

casioboy wrote:If you are looking for Post punk, strictly post punk, i would suggest Wire - 154, probably one of the best albums ever recorded.

he know its

although i think Chairs Missing is better!

b-lam · Post by **b-lam** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:40 pm

casioboy wrote:If you are looking for Post punk, strictly post punk, i would suggest Wire - 154, probably one of the best albums ever recorded.

great album!

b-lam · Post by **b-lam** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:49 pm

the_paulo wrote: yeah, but post punk and math rock are VERY different from the bands described above. Converge and Refused are very much hardcore bands. Converge are more metallic hardcore. DEP are very much a hardcore band who have progressed to create a sound no one else can match. The End are just metal.

i don't know, if hardcore can be progressive and dynamic then yup, converge, refused and DEP are hardcore, but hardcore as I know it has always been thrashy and brutal as an end in itself... the bands I named sound like they're setting out from a different foundation from other hardcore bands.

Might be just that I like these bands and don't want to lump them with the rest of the crap that gets labelled hardcore. I hate getting tangled in genres anyway - it is what it is.

p.s: the end - within dividia is same sort of intensity and progression as 1st album DEP...the new album is v different but if you havn't heard within dividia it's worth scouting out.

rybread · Post by **rybread** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:18 am

B-LAM wrote:eeez!

looking for some recommendations, avid fan of converge, refused, the end, dillinger escape plan etc...

anything you guys rate in this area? looking for solid albums preferably but fire away. also looking for more chilled stuff in this area...

Thanks in advance

Check out

BOTCH (brutal and technical)

The Chariot (First album is raw and quirky)

This ones an outside chance but you also might like

The Blood Brothers - "Burn Piano Island, Burn..."

NOTE: This is the only good blood brothers album. Be sure to avoid all others.

Pi-Krust · Post by **Pi-Krust** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:23 am

Post Punk wise you should also check out Magazine[Howard Devoto's post Buzzcocks project],Motorcade and Definitive Gaze[from the album Real Life] are two of my favourite songs ever.

subvert47 · Post by **subvert47** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 1:16 pm

I did a post-punk set a few weeks back
playing these tracks:

A Certain Ratio - Flight / Forced Laugh
Cabaret Voltaire - Obsession / This is Entertainment
Eric Random - Fade In
Essential Logic - The Order Form
The Fall - Flat of Angles
The Human League - The Dignity of Labour Part 2
Joy Division - Wilderness
Killing Joke - Turn to Red
Material - Memory Serves
The Pop Group - Thief of Fire
Public Image Limited - Careering / Socialist
The Slits - Newtown
Talking Heads - Crosseyed and Painless
23 Skidoo - The Gospel Comes to New Guinea

sorry, no recording

but I did a post punk podcast too a couple of years ago
tracklisting:

01. Scritti Politti – Scritlock’s Door
02. Cabaret Voltaire – Silent Command
03. The Fall – Crap Rap 2 / Like To Blow
04. Throbbing Gristle – Slug Bait
05. Essential Logic – Aerosol Burns
06. Delta 5 – Mind Your Own Business
07. 23 Skidoo – Kundalini
08. Public Image Limited – Memories
09. Swell Maps – Another Song
10. The Durutti Column – Colette
11. Gang of Four – Outside The Trains Don’t Run On Time
12. The Slits – Newtown
13. Joy Division – Wilderness
14. Wire – The 15th
15. The Pop Group – We Are All Prostitutes
16. Cabaret Voltaire – Baader Meinhof
17. This Heat – 24 Track Loop
18. The Raincoats – Lola
19. Throbbing Gristle – Maggot Death

mp3 at the bottom of this page if you're interested

though we called it "new wave" back in the day

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