Wonky!

daggus · Post by **daggus** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:12 pm

rekorder wrote:
Sickman wrote:gonna try and head down Cosies to hear some on a system
Ahh nice one man, gonna be sick!

an friday will be as well

ojo · Post by **ojo** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:56 pm

everytime i've seen anybody talking on a forum about this kind of stuff the name gets discussed as much as the music

david_m · Post by **david_m** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:42 pm

rekorder wrote:(Bear in mind that i'm refering to the Instrumental beats based stuff here, i'm still quite bemused by the fact that the Joker, Gemmy, Ikonika type stuff has seemingly been lumped in your Ras Gs, Flylos, Lukids, Mweslees etc. - although I admit there is a certain overlap with artists like Rustie)

I wholeheartedly agree with this and find myself quite bemused as well.

I see how Martin coined the term talking about artists using a similar sonic palette and a similar approach on the synthwork, and I thought it was totally valid and made for a great article. But making a genre out of it is a bit excessive, i mean come on, sure there can be similarities between say a Zomby tune and Lukid one, but they are widely outnumbered by the differences between them and putting them on the same box is a big stretch.

Also, another thing that amuses me is that, while its use in dubstep may be fairly new, the features that 'wonky' seems to be based on have been applied to hip-hop since a good few years ago, it makes no sense to me coming up with a new genre now.

On an unrelated note, the new Dorian Concept 12" on Kindred Spirits is absolutely brilliant

jackmaster · Post by **jackmaster** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:10 pm

dubway wrote:last month i had a chance to hear Harmonic 313 and then last week Rustie playing live.
after hearing it live my appetite for that sound grew so much that now i want to hear everything there is.
so i decided to start this rolling thread about Wonky to collect all information about it on one spot.

here are some basic resources to start:
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/f ... me-dubstep
http://boomkat.com/genres/139/bestsellers
http://www.redeyerecords.co.uk/asp/prod ... rodtype=54

dont think rustie has done a live set for about a year. where did you hear him play live?

benj b · Post by **benj b** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:28 pm

rekorder wrote:
Sickman wrote:gonna try and head down Cosies to hear some on a system
Ahh nice one man, gonna be sick!

me too - it's tomorrow rihgt?

*Edit; as in me too, I will try and head down, not me too I'm gonna be sick

unlikely · Post by **unlikely** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:57 pm

I like the wonky dubstep stuff ( but to me its wonky dubstep not a new genre ) and i like some wonky hip hop too. I can see why people think its odd everyone treating it like its the future too though, its been around for aaaaages, and isn't even that different now. But like i say, that applies to the hiphop stuff, not the dubstep influenced by it.

manray wrote:Fucking dumb. I've heard the term wonky so much it's unbelievable. People using it for everything. From house tunes to fucking guys.

Bendy?

incyde · Post by **incyde** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:30 pm

shit name, great sounds...

but hey isnt that the struggle we're all in? making music that gets pigeonholed by the media/masses for ease of identification, then in response trying to make the music as hard-to-pigeonhole as possible?

its a fun little game.

fairieswearboots · Post by **fairieswearboots** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:31 pm

found an interesting little article about it here:

http://www.lo-la.co.uk/2008/06/22/new-mix-wonk-fonk/

and a great mix to go with it

Wonk Fonk’ tracklist:

Dilla beats intro
2tall - Killa - Unreleased
Dabrye - Truflle no Shuffle - Ghostly
Flying Lotus - wwwdot - July Heat
Heralds of Change - Sittin On the Side - All City
Piano Overlord - Track 3 - Money Studies
edIT - Laundry - Planet Mu
Dabrye ft Jay Dee and Phat Kat - Game Over (Flying Lotus remix) - Ghostly
FLYamSAM - The Offbeat - Ghostly Swim
Nosaj Thing - 1685 - unreleased
Bullion - Rude Effort - One-Handed Music
Harmonic 313 - Problem 7 - Warp
Bass Clef - Zero Eight Zero - Blank Tapes
Waajeed - Get Live - Fat City
Flying Lotus - Massage Situation - Warp
edIT - Certified Air Raid Material - Alpha Pup
Danny Breaks - Jellyfish - Alphabet Zoo
Heralds of Change - Work it - All City
Take aka Thomas 2000 - Lie-Twerx - Eat Concrete
J Dilla - Lightworks - Stones Throw
Ras G - Random Selection - P-Vine
Samiyam - Cheesecake Backslap - Hyperdub
Mike Slott - Knock Knock - All City
Take - Slouched Over (12″ edit) - Inner Current Recordings
Ooah - Hacksaw - Alpha Pup / GM unlimited
Hud Mo - Ooops! - Lucky Me x Wireblock
Megasoid - Soundbwoy Bass (inst) - unreleased
FOOL - Slaves (2tall remix) - Huw + Haw
Harmonic 313 - Call To Arms - Warp
Dabrye - Temper - Ghostly Swim
Joker - Gullybrook Lane - Soul Jazz
Zomby - Spliff Dub (Rustie remix) - Hyperdub
Quarta 330 - Sunset Dub - Hyperdub
Ikonika - Please - Hyperdub
Machinedrum - Don’t Ask Me (Sped up and Cut up mix) - Norm Rex
The Bug ft Spaceape - Fuckaz - Ninja Tune
Daedelus ft Paperboy and Taz - Touchstone - Ninja Tune
Heralds of Change ft Olivier Daysoul - Bopgunnn - All City
FOOL - Drama (Rustie remix) - Huw + Haw
Samiyam and Hudson Mohawke - Eff This - Red Bull
Flying Lotus - Camel - Warp
Hud Mo - Still On It - Lucky Me x Wireblock
Ghislain Poirier - La Ronde - Musique Large
Rustie - Clipper - Stuff
J Dilla - Trucks - Stones Throw
edIT ft Jay Dee and Phat Kat - The Game is Not Over - Alpha Pup / GM Unlimited

http://www.lo-la.co.uk/Kper_-_Wonk_Fonk.mp3

efa · Post by **efa** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:04 pm

Sick tracklist bigup! Pon DL!

[b]racket · Post by **[b]racket** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:11 pm

'wonk' ain't no new thing

well over a decade old..

datura · Post by **datura** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:22 pm

wonk'nuum

efa · Post by **efa** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:14 pm

To coin a [/Rekordah] term - "post Dilla beat continuum" or "forward thinking beat music" so much more than Wonky, now enough hating, share some beats

prisoner · Post by **prisoner** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:24 am

14 Tracks: Wonky

http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=151463

dj ill kid 505 · Post by **dj ill kid 505** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:28 am

I thought it was called Glitchhop and Lazer Bass...

nesslei · Post by **nesslei** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:10 am

saba wrote:I get to hear Mark Pritchard once a month at VOID...& he kills it everytime!

rrrahhh!

yes boss · Post by **yes boss** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:07 pm

love zomby, rustie, joker etc but wouldn't put people like lone, lukid and hudmo in the same group........totally different vibe for me!

rekordah · Post by **rekordah** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:45 pm

daggus wrote:
rekorder wrote:
Sickman wrote:gonna try and head down Cosies to hear some on a system
Ahh nice one man, gonna be sick!
an friday will be as well

Yes yes!!!

chalk_outline · Post by **chalk_outline** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:40 pm

when wonky gets its own category on juno you know its made it

id much rather hear the term wonky than future beats

diss04 · Post by **diss04** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:51 pm

i think the fact that people find it necessary to label everything is fucking stupid (not a dig @ blackdown, i understand for the sake of ease of writing everything needs a name but still) and pete, i still don't feel calling it hip hop; sure it may have certain characteristics of hip hop but it's dance music in the same way that dubstep is/was, surely?

then again what do i funkin' know.

jackmaster · Post by **jackmaster** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:19 pm

Diss04 wrote:i think the fact that people find it necessary to label everything is fucking stupid (not a dig @ blackdown, i understand for the sake of ease of writing everything needs a name but still) and pete, i still don't feel calling it hip hop; sure it may have certain characteristics of hip hop but it's dance music in the same way that dubstep is/was, surely?

then again what do i funkin' know.

Sometimes you have to label these things to discuss them though. As far as "forward thinking beat music"/ "post dilla beat continuum" goes... well that's just too much of a mouth full for me. Id feel like a right wank with a response like that if someone asked me what music I was in to. then again I'd never reply with "wonky"

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