Dubplates vs. Vinyl Cuts

eshscramble · Post by **eshscramble** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:15 am

say i want to cut about 10 tracks... at $50 for two sides, that's about $250 plus the $8 or so for shipping(i believe dubstudio has flat rate shipping - badass)

now, $260 isn't bad when you consider you would have almost a full set of really good sounding tunes that no one has - throw the essential tunes of the moment/past in there, and you will easily have a memorable set.

plus, dubplates have a longer playable lifespan - i'm not talking about wear and tear, but the fact that not every dj is rocking them day and night... you can keep the same tracks and play them out at different venues, for different crowds, and it's still gonna tear the place up. when you buy a 12, or play a 320 that everyone has, it's only good for about a week, or at least that's how i feel. worth the money imo, maybe when i have some of that money, i'll get some cut! until then, i'm making more and more tunes and they're sounding better and better!

side note: every time i see a dj put a dubplate on, it gives me hope that i won't soon resort to playing on a laptop. i still buy and play vinyl, and i never want to stop!

if you think about it, the 500+ you spend on serato can get you 20 dubplates(10 w/ 2 sides)... not bad if you ask me.

Littlefoot · Post by **Littlefoot** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:28 am

trigga!!! wrote:got no problem with people using serato/cds etc, but it aint for me! got no problem carrying a record bag! totally worth it! nothing better than a fresh dub imo! just hate when some djs cant understand why you would cut and berate you for doing so! whilst they play off of ableton and twiddle the flange about with their midi controller! ahahha makes me laugh!

haha this

a good DJ knows when NOT to fiddle with the tunes imho! think about the hours of prescision synthesis, programming, mixing and mastering youre leaving behind when throwing that horrible VST over the mix

eshscramble · Post by **eshscramble** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:43 am

and for us stateside people, i hear joe nice has said some good things about http://www.turnstylerecords.com/

lukki · Post by **lukki** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 1:29 am

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Yeah, good prices - $30/ per 10" acetate, $8 flat rate shipping. Just ordered a few from 'em, waiting for them in the mail. Heard rly good things.

Lurka · Post by **Lurka** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:35 am

eshscramble wrote:s

now, $260 isn't bad when you consider you would have almost a full set of really good sounding tunes that no one has - throw the essential tunes of the moment/past in there, and you will easily have a memorable set.

plus, dubplates have a longer playable lifespan - i'm not talking about wear and tear, but the fact that not every dj is rocking them day and night... you can keep the same tracks and play them out at different venues, for different crowds, and it's still gonna tear the place up. when you buy a 12, or play a 320 that everyone has, it's only good for about a week, or at least that's how i feel.

side note: every time i see a dj put a dubplate on, it gives me hope that i won't soon resort to playing on a laptop. i still buy and play vinyl, and i never want to stop!

if you think about it, the 500+ you spend on serato can get you 20 dubplates(10 w/ 2 sides)... not bad if you ask me.

yes mate! agree with all of this! especially the fact that the tunes have a longer lifespan, and mint to have tunes no one else has! gotta love it!

also youd be surprised how good your tunes can sound when cut to acetate, all of mine have sounded twice as weighty! its redonkulous!

gchrist · Post by **gchrist** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:35 pm

eshscramble wrote:say i want to cut about 10 tracks... at $50 for two sides, that's about $250 plus the $8 or so for shipping(i believe dubstudio has flat rate shipping - badass)

now, $260 isn't bad when you consider you would have almost a full set of really good sounding tunes that no one has - throw the essential tunes of the moment/past in there, and you will easily have a memorable set.

plus, dubplates have a longer playable lifespan - i'm not talking about wear and tear, but the fact that not every dj is rocking them day and night... you can keep the same tracks and play them out at different venues, for different crowds, and it's still gonna tear the place up. when you buy a 12, or play a 320 that everyone has, it's only good for about a week, or at least that's how i feel. worth the money imo, maybe when i have some of that money, i'll get some cut! until then, i'm making more and more tunes and they're sounding better and better!

side note: every time i see a dj put a dubplate on, it gives me hope that i won't soon resort to playing on a laptop. i still buy and play vinyl, and i never want to stop!

if you think about it, the 500+ you spend on serato can get you 20 dubplates(10 w/ 2 sides)... not bad if you ask me.

Bigup that man. Real DJs play vinyl.

joe muggs · Post by **joe muggs** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:42 pm

Joe C wrote:
trigga!!! wrote:got no problem with people using serato/cds etc, but it aint for me! got no problem carrying a record bag! totally worth it! nothing better than a fresh dub imo! just hate when some djs cant understand why you would cut and berate you for doing so! whilst they play off of ableton and twiddle the flange about with their midi controller! ahahha makes me laugh!
haha this

a good DJ knows when NOT to fiddle with the tunes imho! think about the hours of prescision synthesis, programming, mixing and mastering youre leaving behind when throwing that horrible VST over the mix

Horses for courses that, though, innit. You wouldn't ask the Scratch Perverts not to "fiddle with the tunes" would you?

Likewise having exclusives. A great DJ can play a dynamite set with all familiar material if their mixing, pacing, sense of drama etc is all present and correct.

Dubstep DJing styles have developed from dubplate culture and it is particularly suited to a subtle mixing style with vinyl/plates BUT that doesn't mean that great things can't and won't be done by spinners operating with other media and styles.

lukki · Post by **lukki** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:06 pm

gchrist wrote: Bigup that man. Real DJs play vinyl.

ROFL @ this...

Acetate isn't vinyl...You'd be hard-pressed(no pun intented) to find any vinyl in the hands of N type, caspa, Skream, hatch, benga, etc...

Kind of funny that saying, always had a laugh at it when Hatcha would say it because its not only a really dumb mantra, but since he doesnt play vinyl the irony is oh-so delicious.

djshiva · Post by **djshiva** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:43 pm

trigga!!! wrote:got no problem with people using serato/cds etc, but it aint for me! got no problem carrying a record bag! totally worth it! nothing better than a fresh dub imo! just hate when some djs cant understand why you would cut and berate you for doing so! whilst they play off of ableton and twiddle the flange about with their midi controller! ahahha makes me laugh!

i have an idea. how about EVERYONE stops fucking whinging and insulting other people for how they choose to play tunes and just STFU and do their own thing?

you got the money to cut dubs? do yer thing.

you like serato? do yer thing.

you use ableton? do yer thing.

everyone is happy.

it's a crazy concept, i know. but i think it could catch on.

gchrist wrote:Real DJs play vinyl.

"real" djs don't tell other people how they should express their creativity.

"real" djs shut their fucking face and rock the soundsystem.

Joe Muggs wrote: Horses for courses that, though, innit. You wouldn't ask the Scratch Perverts not to "fiddle with the tunes" would you?

Likewise having exclusives. A great DJ can play a dynamite set with all familiar material if their mixing, pacing, sense of drama etc is all present and correct.

Dubstep DJing styles have developed from dubplate culture and it is particularly suited to a subtle mixing style with vinyl/plates BUT that doesn't mean that great things can't and won't be done by spinners operating with other media and styles.

yes. all of this.

Lurka · Post by **Lurka** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:55 am

sapphic_beats wrote: i have an idea. how about EVERYONE stops fucking whinging and insulting other people for how they choose to play tunes and just STFU and do their own thing?

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woah! steady on! i dont recall insulting anyone! im sick of being insulted for playing dubplates and vinyl from djs i have met when playing out! i dont care what people use! ure bringing the aggy!

l que · Post by **l que** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:10 pm

no disrespect to all the good producers using serato/ableton etc and playing their own tunes,however i believe that part of deejaying culture is finding that elusive/rare 12 inch that almost no one else owns, crate digging is important

djshiva · Post by **djshiva** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:00 pm

trigga!!! wrote:
sapphic_beats wrote: i have an idea. how about EVERYONE stops fucking whinging and insulting other people for how they choose to play tunes and just STFU and do their own thing?

.
woah! steady on! i dont recall insulting anyone! im sick of being insulted for playing dubplates and vinyl from djs i have met when playing out! i dont care what people use! ure bringing the aggy!

hey, it wasn't meant personally, i promise. just a general response to the constant back and forth. you just happened to be the one who triggered it. and it was meant just as much for anyone who gives you shit for playing dubplates as it is for people who get all bent about digital djing.

L Que wrote:no disrespect to all the good producers using serato/ableton etc and playing their own tunes,however i believe that part of deejaying culture is finding that elusive/rare 12 inch that almost no one else owns, crate digging is important

well, don't forget that many of us who play with a digital format, still have pretty massive collections of vinyl as well.

l que · Post by **l que** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:05 pm

l que · Post by **l que** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:09 pm

i like vinyl and i think i will leave it at that, a lot of good music only gets released digitally which is a shame (Juakali's ep for example, would love to own it on wax)

although i do think that the music should come first and the format second

eshscramble · Post by **eshscramble** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:30 pm

^^^^^^ awesome!

clarkycatdealer · Post by **clarkycatdealer** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:50 pm

"Real DJs play vinyl."

i guess ritchie hawtin isn't a dj then? ?

djinn · Post by **djinn** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:28 pm

definately feeling dubstudio.co.uk!
Service is bang on and the dubs are quality

crypt · Post by **crypt** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:23 pm

Just ordered my first dubplate at dubstudio

Anyone's got any idea when to expect it? Live in belgium so shipping might take 3-4 days..
Really curious about the way my tunes will sound after proper mastering & stuff

surface_tension · Post by **surface_tension** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:53 am

jrj2020 wrote:
L Que wrote:respect to all those taking the time and spending the money to do music properly. ie: cut dubs, get their tunes mastered and generally just being professional.....UPZ
I dont think this is fair at all. To say that Serato/Cd's isnt "doing it properly" is ridiculous.

He didn't say that those weren't doing it properly... he said that cutting dubs and paying that extra bit of money pays off in the end, and that the end result justifies the means. HENCE, doing it properly.

You took that to mean an attack on those who don't do such things, and I didn't read it that way. I read it as bigging up those who DO it that way.

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