american dubstep tracks with PUNCH, where are they?

dragonmantx · Post by **dragonmantx** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:46 am

so me and an associate were sittin around today and noticin a difference between all the london produced dubstep and american produced. most of the american produced tracks dont have that umphh like the others, with the exception of a few ive been able to hear,(south3rn, lookin in your direction)
can anyone prove my pseudo-theory wrong and show me some chest rattlin, lfo rollin american-made tracks?

thinking · Post by **thinking** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:55 am

DragonManTx wrote:so me and an associate were sittin around today and noticin a difference between all the london produced dubstep and american produced. most of the american produced tracks dont have that umphh like the others, with the exception of a few ive been able to hear,(south3rn, lookin in your direction)
can anyone prove my pseudo-theory wrong and show me some chest rattlin, lfo rollin american-made tracks?

prob because there's not many places in the US yet where you can hear dubstep in its natural habitat - i.e. on a fuckoff big system. Same goes for producers/DJs - there are far less opportunities right now for them to play their shit out on proper rigs and thus get a feel for what's right/wrong.

Also, the dubstep scene in the US appears to made up of a lot of peeps who either were/are into DnB, so in quite a few US dubstep productions I'm hearing harsh mid-range synths and over-flattened drums, as opposed to real depth & weight. Personally I'd say the same about Tech Itch & Skynet.

Lastly, there's not much of a history of UKG out there in the US that I know of - a fair amount of dubstep fans over here (and to a lesser extent overseas) are/were fans of 2-step garage, which means there's still a bump and swing to the music that you don't get from anything else.

dynamixuk · Post by **dynamixuk** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:16 pm

check out parson

his stuffs in the audio section...also hell science

juliun_c90 · Post by **juliun_c90** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:26 pm

matty g and argon records.

get to know.

bob grommit · Post by **bob grommit** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:13 pm

Not sure which american tunes/artists you were using to form your theory, but I assure you, there are plenty of US cats laying it down proper.

Check these for starters:

Tyrant
Innerlign
Djunya
Secret Agent Gel
Grapes

(and the two mentioned above: Matty G and Parson)

municiple · Post by **municiple** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:27 pm

Things are still brewing a bit, but some nice stuff out there already.

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:34 pm

i wish people would drop this us vs uk thing.

ramadanman · Post by **ramadanman** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:52 pm

i agree with thinking to a certain extent. although obviously there are some people from the US making movesss and quality tunes.

parson · Post by **parson** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:35 pm

not many US tunes making it to vinyl yet and therefore not getting proper mastering treatment

something to consider

bedward · Post by **bedward** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:06 pm

different strokes fe different folks. innit?

that For The Smokers/Bitter Love 12" is excellent.
the production is an important part of what-it-does-to-me.

one of the things i noticed about it is its relative crunchiness.
fuzz, buzz and grit.
it definetely sounds influenced by hiphop production as much as (if not more than) 2-step or dub.
clearly the producer/engineer had other things on their mind as well as sub-bass pressure.
and why not?
if everyone sounded the same it would be an absolute bloody nightmare.
Please don't let that happen!

mind you, a bit of transatlantic refixery could be interesting...

gravious · Post by **gravious** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:36 pm

I've noticed that some US tunes I've got on vinyl aren't as loud and punchy as UK equivalents.

To be honest, I've aways just assumed its cos they weren't mastered as well... i.e. not at Transition... and so don't sound as crisp/loud

Some UK tunes suffer from this too.

south3rn · Post by **south3rn** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:51 pm

DragonManTx wrote:so me and an associate were sittin around today and noticin a difference between all the london produced dubstep and american produced. most of the american produced tracks dont have that umphh like the others, with the exception of a few ive been able to hear,(south3rn, lookin in your direction)
can anyone prove my pseudo-theory wrong and show me some chest rattlin, lfo rollin american-made tracks?

wow, thanks man!
glad you like our beats.

there's some talk about one or two of our tracks
getting signed for vinyl release and if not,
it'll make it easier for us to put em out ourselves. . . so watch out!

as far as north american producers. . .
[there are some canadian peeps holding it down proper as well]

on top of the ones listed in this post, also check out stuff from
scaramanga, moldy, and juju too. the last two mixes joe nice
has online is chock full of north american beats!

djshiva · Post by **djshiva** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:07 am

gravious wrote:I've noticed that some US tunes I've got on vinyl aren't as loud and punchy as UK equivalents.

To be honest, I've aways just assumed its cos they weren't mastered as well... i.e. not at Transition... and so don't sound as crisp/loud

Some UK tunes suffer from this too.

that has long been an issue for US pressing houses it seems. vinyl mastered in the UK/Europe has always been hotter than the stuff here. it's annoying...

theverdict · Post by **theverdict** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:29 am

South3rn wrote:
DragonManTx wrote:so me and an associate were sittin around today and noticin a difference between all the london produced dubstep and american produced. most of the american produced tracks dont have that umphh like the others, with the exception of a few ive been able to hear,(south3rn, lookin in your direction)
can anyone prove my pseudo-theory wrong and show me some chest rattlin, lfo rollin american-made tracks?

wow, thanks man!
glad you like our beats.

there's some talk about one or two of our tracks
getting signed for vinyl release and if not,
it'll make it easier for us to put em out ourselves. . . so watch out!

as far as north american producers. . .
[there are some canadian peeps holding it down proper as well]

on top of the ones listed in this post, also check out stuff from
scaramanga, moldy, and juju too. the last two mixes joe nice
has online is chock full of north american beats!

keith p · Post by **keith p** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:47 am

Grapes' bass samples pack some serious fucking punch. I've knocked bare shit off my shelves playin his tunes.

dragonmantx · Post by **dragonmantx** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:46 am

now thats a good set of responses, and i hope none of my fellow americans are/were offended, didnt wanna step on any toes, just an observation, made somewhat thru my own explorations into production. dont get me wrong, i havent found a US made track i dont like yet, all u producers out there are doin a damn fine job. hope i can get something out there as good one of these days, and perhaps its better for the us and uk tunes to have a little difference...

besides, the biggest things always come out of TX.. all in good time

dragonmantx · Post by **dragonmantx** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:49 am

juliun_c90 wrote:matty g and argon records.

get to know.

ARG007 is already in transit, thanks to TXDNB, ill be spinnin with argon in a fw weeks so im sure ill hear some good ones

mattyg · Post by **mattyg** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:01 am

My tunes were mastered at Transition and sound loud as hell to me.

abZ · Post by **abZ** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:04 am

I'm relatively new to this but here is a couple american dubstep tunes from me.

http://www.musicv2.com/artist/abz?album_id=1066

mattyg · Post by **mattyg** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:06 am

...and thanks for the ups julian and bedward. I'm glad you're enjoying the tunes.

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