Police trying to shut down Grime/Urban events

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Post by butterz » Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:16 pm

spiderman wrote:the police will always look at grime negatively. its not even the lyrics, its just the reputation the nights earned back in the day for slight beefs which then got blown up.
it is strictly content and image.

funky has an image and sexy content.

yet the dance is fulla road men.

grime is full of violence and energy
and the dance is full of people that are only there for the music

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Post by spiderman » Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:31 pm

Butterz wrote:
spiderman wrote:the police will always look at grime negatively. its not even the lyrics, its just the reputation the nights earned back in the day for slight beefs which then got blown up.
it is strictly content and image.

funky has an image and sexy content.

yet the dance is fulla road men.

grime is full of violence and energy
and the dance is full of people that are only there for the music
thats grime now. before it was a road thing.

u really think the feds are going to the raves to see what type of people are there? they just think of the image, and judge it on that and the past. so your right in that sense.

reason why i said its not even the lyrics, was just to say the main reason is the police basing their judgement on past incidences and stereotypes. but it is the lyrics aswell and the image.
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Post by d+ » Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:41 pm

when i was listening to grime, i was probably the most "into it" out of all my mates and was definitely the least involved in the road side of things out of all of us. but i definitely knew the most about the music and was the most passionate about it.

all those guys use to go to the raves to shot, draw girls THEN music. I was at uni and had no interest in shotting and when I was in the rave it was strictly a music one unless i saw a nice girl... and even there it was usually a long stare and a smile and that was it!

now my same friends are all into funky house and bassline and they love the music. they know more about it than me nowdays and i'm the one asking them "what tune is this?!"

so i see what butterz is saying - in house now, in the raves.. its a more mature vibe. people are going there to have a good time, theres no ulterior motives. i think the dress code helps alot too. i've seen a couple beefs at funky nights, but its usually a fued that started outside the club. i remember at sidewinder people were getting bottled and shanked for almost no reason...!
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Post by missedthebus » Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:01 pm

Whineo wrote:please tell me you signed the 696 petition! :cry:
Here's the petition... http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Scrapthe696/

I am very dubious as to whether these petitions even receive a slight bit of attention from the government apart from in the sense that they fill their democratic deficit. Regardless, sign it anyway.

It never ceases to amaze me the amount of draconian, authoritarian laws, bills and measures passed by government and its subsequent institutions without the general public even battering its proverbial eyelid. Even if there is a slight murmur from the press in a small column on page 36, the issues are soon forgotten and our freedoms are ever increasingly removed.
Look at the communications database Jacky Smith is trying to pass http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... email.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/dec/3 ... -liberties
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/jan/0 ... erdatabase
There has been small segments on this topic in the media more recently, but it amazes me the lack of publicity issues like this receive.
People need to wake up and stop these things happening, before its too late. The same applies to Form 696 and the Noise Limiters. Before you know it having 'fun' will be a crime!!
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Post by smint » Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:06 pm

Kulture wrote:Police are the biggest mob in world...
Couldnt have said it better myself

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Post by geiom » Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:34 am

up here its a racist ting also -

At the Marcus Garvey centre here in Notts -

dubstep/drum and bass nights etc - no police presence -

reggae dance - riot squad

if they think its a 'black people' event they assume it will be trouble.

(dubstep and drum and bass are ok as there are hardly any minorities in the dance these days lol)
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Post by tankomatic » Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:31 am

see they want to stop generic street crime and anti social behaviour... OK

How do they intend to do this?

By stopping young'uns going out and having a good time....

great thesis.

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Post by grievous_angel » Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:18 am

It's not just about grime. On the list they have bashment, r'n'b and garage. Black music in other words.

Fergal Sharkey was on the Today program this morning talking about it, he did a very good job.

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