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Re: proof that crop circles are a hoax!

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 1:28 pm
by hackman
why wait for information when its already out there...
did you watch op video?
do you really think humans can produce perfectly geometrical shapes with planks of wood and nothing else without breaking the crops?

Re: proof that crop circles are a hoax!

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 1:46 pm
by the wiggle baron
hackman wrote:why wait for information when its already out there...
did you watch op video?
do you really think humans can produce perfectly geometrical shapes with planks of wood and nothing else without breaking the crops?
(sorry to answer a question aimed at someone else :P) but yeah, I dont think they can.

However, I also dont think these formations are the product of any extra terrestrial intelligence. It seems a bit of a "god of the gaps" explanation with no real evidence from what ive seen.
For example, id put crazy unexplained natural phenomena (ball lightning?) or humans with clever technology/mad skills/autism way higher up on the list of likeliness than aliens making some bizarre, sporadic attempt at communicating with us.

Oh...and I know that you werent one claiming that aliens made em all hackman. Your post was just a good jumping off point for me to make mine :)

Re: proof that crop circles are a hoax!

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 1:50 pm
by magma
hackman wrote:why wait for information when its already out there...
did you watch op video?
do you really think humans can produce perfectly geometrical shapes with planks of wood and nothing else without breaking the crops?
I don't know... but I don't think humans with planks of wood is the only option. I've done that myself and it was remarkably easy, but for the bigger ones I'm not sure why it's unbelievable that humans could be using a different technique? I've also made art from above (simple... numbers and shapes) for protests (most recent one was for 350.org in London) and those have always been quite easy to get right even without the help of a bloke in a chopper/cherry picker.

There are plenty of manmade things in the world that are impossible to create with our fat fingers and average coordination, but we're pretty good at designing tools to make up for that... it strikes me that, since these designs have been getting more complex as time has gone on - somebody's getting better at it, which seems a fairly human trait? Would aliens not get their technique down before they started graffing other species' planets?

Either way, there's an awful lot unknown stuff happening. I watched the vid and it is indeed very interesting. I'm not dismissing your explanation at all, just saying that I don't have as much faith in it as you... I'd like to witness the technique myself, it's the only real evidence that matters isn't it?

Re: proof that crop circles are a hoax!

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 1:52 pm
by particle-jim
why would aliens want to fuck about making patterns in our crops? just land and say hello

Re: proof that crop circles are a hoax!

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 1:54 pm
by hackman
the wiggle baron wrote:
hackman wrote:why wait for information when its already out there...
did you watch op video?
do you really think humans can produce perfectly geometrical shapes with planks of wood and nothing else without breaking the crops?
(sorry to answer a question aimed at someone else :P) but yeah, I dont think they can.

However, I also dont think these formations are the product of any extra terrestrial intelligence. It seems a bit of a "god of the gaps" explanation with no real evidence from what ive seen.
For example, id put crazy unexplained natural phenomena (ball lightning?) or humans with clever technology/mad skills/autism way higher up on the list of likeliness than aliens making some bizarre, sporadic attempt at communicating with us.

Oh...and I know that you werent one claiming that aliens made em all hackman. Your post was just a good jumping off point for me to make mine :)
maybe, i'm basing my opinion on all the accounts i've read or heard about people seeing ufos in the sky over fields then crop circles appearing
and of animals like dogs barking at something, then there being a circle

basically i don't believe it's a natural phenomena, particularly when some have clear messages in them, and i don't believe in the plankers either

for me it's either aliens or some hi tech operation the government is doing from satellites or something lol

Re: proof that crop circles are a hoax!

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 1:54 pm
by hackman
particle-jim wrote:why would aliens want to fuck about making patterns in our crops? just land and say hello
i've already answered this

Re: proof that crop circles are a hoax!

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 1:56 pm
by hackman
magma wrote:it strikes me that, since these designs have been getting more complex as time has gone on - somebody's getting better at it, which seems a fairly human trait? Would aliens not get their technique down before they started graffing other species' planets?
can you give examples of this? i haven't seen that pattern anywhere, there have always been amazing ones and there have always been questionable ones

Re: proof that crop circles are a hoax!

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 1:59 pm
by magma
hackman wrote:and i don't believe in the plankers either

for me it's either aliens or some hi tech operation the government is doing from satellites or something lol
Do you not believe plankers do any of them? I definitely disagree with that because I made one as a teenager with planks... growing up in the country was fun! We only did a circle for a laugh and I can't really relate to the planning that goes into the complex ones,

For some reason I find aliens more plausible than government... I can't see what a government would have to gain by spending all that money on making shapes in fields...?

At least we're politely agreeing to disagree this time. :w: :lol:



Edit: I'm not sure I can expand on the "getting more complex" thing... I've read in a few places that it's considered to be true, but I haven't got anything to flesh it out. I'll take it back rather than flog a dead horse!

Re: proof that crop circles are a hoax!

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 2:10 pm
by hackman
magma wrote:At least we're politely agreeing to disagree this time. :w: :lol:
:w:

and meant the plankers who claim they do the complex ones

Re: proof that crop circles are a hoax!

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 3:01 pm
by rbnc
People that believe in this kind of shit are just not intelligent to understand the real beautiful majesty of the world around them.

Re: proof that crop circles are a hoax!

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 3:45 pm
by parson
smarter than u

Re: proof that crop circles are a hoax!

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 10:51 pm
by Shae
What'd you all think about the sheep that get murked and have their brains removed etc?

Re: proof that crop circles are a hoax!

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 11:13 pm
by the wiggle baron
Shae wrote:What'd you all think about the sheep that get murked and have their brains removed etc?
someones murkin sheep

Re: proof that crop circles are a hoax!

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 11:14 pm
by parson
i feel way more sorry for the victims of the meat industry than the few random livestock mutilations tbh

Re: proof that crop circles are a hoax!

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:01 am
by gwa
parson, do you eat meat?

Re: proof that crop circles are a hoax!

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:23 am
by parson
just seafood

Re: proof that crop circles are a hoax!

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:59 am
by mks
64hz wrote:
mks wrote:
You should know by now that light and sound are the same thing, just different frequencies upon the spectrum.
no theyre not.
light is an electromagnetic wave, whereas sound is the vibration of air particles.
they are very different.
That's true, as sound does not travel through space. But you should be aware of the Quantum Physics studies that show that light can act as both a wave and a particle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/phys ... index.html

As far as these crop circle tings, perhaps no one is wrapping their head around the idea that these maybe neither alien or human???

:?:

Re: proof that crop circles are a hoax!

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:30 am
by karmacazee
So they've been testing they're laser graffiti on our crops all this time eh?

Crop circles are the ultimate Anonymous works of art.

Re: proof that crop circles are a hoax!

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:33 am
by helix

It's the Drexciyans.

Re: proof that crop circles are a hoax!

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 2:21 am
by karmacazee
parson wrote:just seafood