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Re: Could Consciousness Be A Dimension?
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:50 pm
by test_recordings
Haha it could just be a coincidence, but then the whole universe is full of them because it's so inter-related. Life is a self-replicating organism but is made of the universe... How do rocks become sentient? There was something in new scientist where a research group were trying to mimic life-like reactions that sustain themselves
Re: Could Consciousness Be A Dimension?
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:27 am
by xarcane
LACE wrote:Yeah, I mean that's ridiculous for them to give you looks, everything stems from each other..be it science, art, humanity, the stars...
I can see how it can go over most people's heads because these ''unrelated'' subjects explain things in such different ways. I think Quantum Mechanics being a language of hard mathematics is enough to deter people from using that resource in other disciplinaries.
But it's necessary in order to find a well rounded answer in these theoretical cases. I studied Astronomy in Uni, and there was no way I could truly understand and explain my research without knowledge in geology and physics, QM, statistics, chemistry and even psychology. Have you seen this?
All the same we are..
This behaviour is predicted by the fractal's property of self-similarity, but it's still amazing to see it. I like your quantum consciousness theory as well, but I'm a bit unsure on some parts, I'll have to look some more into it.
Re: Could Consciousness Be A Dimension?
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:33 am
by LACE
Re: Could Consciousness Be A Dimension?
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:17 pm
by xarcane
Fractals occur naturally (tree branches, snowflakes), and because to the properties of a fractal require self-similarity down to its smallest parts, this predicts that the most fundamental particle in the universe should be a fractal. A quantum string has already been calculated (not proven, proof would be the universal equation that ties universal physics to pure maths) to be a fractal with a Hausdorff dimension of 3.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fr ... _dimension
Furthermore the recent solution of partition numbers has found that defining the entire integer set (as the partition set is a definition of our integer system), spawns a fractal.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/ ... -fractals/
I'm just saying that this picture showing similarity between a braincell and the universe's structure is nothing that shouldn't be expected, because it is also predicted by the fractal's property of self-similarity.
This theory about the location of our consciousness in a quantum phase-shift reality is far less conventional than anything I've said, but it does sound interesting. Have you got any articles or anything expanding on this theory?
Re: Could Consciousness Be A Dimension?
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:32 pm
by WhosZena
Re: Could Consciousness Be A Dimension?
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:42 pm
by 64hz
how do they make this:

Re: Could Consciousness Be A Dimension?
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:43 pm
by 64hz
nvm, i just saw you wrote 'kirlian' and i google it.
Re: Could Consciousness Be A Dimension?
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:59 pm
by WhosZena
A developing technology in photographing auras, energy fields ect. has great potential yet isn't taken that serious..
Just happens to look good
Amazing
Re: Could Consciousness Be A Dimension?
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:23 pm
by test_recordings
Sick!
Re: Could Consciousness Be A Dimension?
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:28 pm
by alphacat
Interesting read somewhat along these lines..
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas ... ?page=full
James Gleick wrote:I actually think information is more likely to be real and fundamental than quarks are. It’s possible that, some day, quarks will turn out to be a human construct, whereas information will never turn out to be that way.
Re: Could Consciousness Be A Dimension?
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:58 pm
by x-ecutive
Whats the point of trying to talk about it? Because we cant realy talk about it can we.
It makes me think where would everyone get if we did talk about it. I supose thats the point of not talking about tho.
Re: Could Consciousness Be A Dimension?
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:12 pm
by test_recordings
x-ecutive wrote:Whats the point of trying to talk about it? Because we cant realy talk about it can we.
It makes me think where would everyone get if we did talk about it. I supose thats the point of not talking about tho.
We can still work with it though. The Dao De Jing deals with this topic in a very roundabout way but it might be the only way of dealing with it, the Stephen Addiss and Stanley Lombardo is a very accurate translation rather than interpretation apparently (I bought it on the basis of merit from referenced academic work by other authors, anyway).
Re: Could Consciousness Be A Dimension?
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:42 pm
by kaiori breathe
knell wrote:
But could conscious thought be a dimension, or at least operate in a dimension of its own?
NO LRN2SCIENCE
Re: Could Consciousness Be A Dimension?
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:04 pm
by 64hz
All dimensions are consciousness
Re: Could Consciousness Be A Dimension?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:32 pm
by WhosZena
http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/p ... ciousness/
little interactive survey
still cant pinpoint one as entirely
Re: Could Consciousness Be A Dimension?
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:06 pm
by knell
kaiori breathe wrote:knell wrote:
But could conscious thought be a dimension, or at least operate in a dimension of its own?
NO LRN2SCIENCE
considering consciousness is one of the few things that science has yet to define, i'd like you to please refrain from comments such as this
unless of course you're a brilliant scientist yourself and plan on winning a Nobel Prize with a ground-breaking paper that you've crafted from a decade of peer-reviewed research.... then by all means feel free to mock me... but considering you choose to communicate with a meme, i'm going to take a wild guess that you're far from that

Re: Could Consciousness Be A Dimension?
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:11 pm
by kingGhost
bro, could like... carpet... be a dimension?
Re: Could Consciousness Be A Dimension?
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:40 pm
by 64hz
Quantum Activism anyone?