the importance of a good EQ

[RmoniK]

logic's channel eq is pretty good. So is reason's M class EQ

[paravrais]

There is literally no point making a track in one program and mixing it in another :s if you are going to move to another DAW do it, don't go half way.

I disagree. A lot of the time I make sounds using Reason because I like the synths and I like the freedom that the routing in Reason gives you. Then most of the time I resample into Reaper so I can do things with the audio there. I mix in Reaper because I have db readings on the mixer, I can use VSTs like a spectrum analyzer, I much prefer the EQ and Compression in Reaper, etc.

As has already been mentioned many times in this thread Reason is the only exception in a lot of these cases. Reason is closer to a complex VST than a DAW imo.

the mix engineer will take the stems and load them into Pro Tools just to sum and bounce.

That makes no sense XD if you've already bounced the stems then loading them into another DAW and bouncing them again as an all inclusive wav isn't going to suddenly magically make the track sound better

logic's channel eq is pretty good. So is reason's M class EQ

For a second I thought you were serious there XD sarcasm on the internet is a dangerous business!

[AllNightDayDream]

Can anyone explain why the mclass gets such a bad rep? something a little more than "it's just bad". It always did its job for me just fine.

[Redderious]

To the man who recomended Fabfilter pro Q, thank ya!
Fabfilter is really amazing. Not only their EQs either, their Volcano Filter, and Pro C, are quality as well!
Only thing is the price...
Im running the demos on all of these right now, and if it were just 100-150$ cheaper, i'd buy it right away. But since it's such a steep price, im going to try some other product demos to make sure my 500$ is going to the right place

[RmoniK]

Can anyone explain why the mclass gets such a bad rep? something a little more than "it's just bad". It always did its job for me just fine.

i agree. A "good" EQ won't turn your music good suddenly. An EQ is an EQ, and if you don't know how to use it like a real pro, you won't hear the difference. At all.

[paravrais]

Can anyone explain why the mclass gets such a bad rep? something a little more than "it's just bad". It always did its job for me just fine.

Well for starters it doesn't do what the numbers/graph say it's doing. Secondly it's very limited in what it can actually achieve, you have to stack several on top of each other to get a proper low cut on anything and even then there isn't nearly enough control for it to be of any practical use. Only thing I'd use it for if I was still on reason is slight boosting. Anything else you wanna use the other EQ/filters or the Vocoders EQ section.

[RmoniK]

don't look at the graph. And don't low cut with that one, use the 2 band parametric one to lowcut. And hold shift for more control. I don't get it.

[nowaysj]

A "good" EQ won't turn your music good suddenly.

Yes, but a bad eq will turn your sound to mush. See mclass eq.

[AllNightDayDream]

A "good" EQ won't turn your music good suddenly.

Yes, but a bad eq will turn your sound to mush. See mclass eq.

Elaborate please

[AllNightDayDream]

Can anyone explain why the mclass gets such a bad rep? something a little more than "it's just bad". It always did its job for me just fine.

Well for starters it doesn't do what the numbers/graph say it's doing. Secondly it's very limited in what it can actually achieve, you have to stack several on top of each other to get a proper low cut on anything and even then there isn't nearly enough control for it to be of any practical use. Only thing I'd use it for if I was still on reason is slight boosting. Anything else you wanna use the other EQ/filters or the Vocoders EQ section.

Granted I don't have an expensive professional studio, but I do mix sometimes with a sub and have had no problem cutting low end. Don't get the first sentence at all. Granted that the display isn't as detailed as others, but if getting things to the exact Hz is your thing then the knobs will tell you more. What kinds of control is it missing?

[-[2]DAY_-]

mclass is hands down piece of shit. as stated above, you need to stack like 3 of them to get a steep cut. its like the filters on it just aren't powerful enough to hold back a signal. I even prefer the little red parametric to mclass. And why put metrics on the EQ if they're too shite to go by.... just not looking at them doesn't excuse the fact they suck...
i am a happy Reason user, mind you..

if the thing works for you, great.. but not understanding the point, is simply a symptom of having not used anything better yet! trust.