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I haven't seen it yet, but I heard about Bryan Daniel's match...

Dead Rats wrote:I haven't seen it yet, but I heard about Bryan Daniel's match...

wub wrote:FFS



EDIT - they've removed it now

Brings me right back to what I said at the start of the thread;

wub wrote:

Dead Rats wrote:SHOULD'VE PUSHED BRYAN DANIELSON YEARS AGO

They have fucked up with Danielson something rotten. Making him win the championship the way he did was bad enough, but then to follow it up with a heel turn and getting himself disqualified all the time was just madness. He is a technical wrestler, one of the best they've had in fucking years, and they instead forget all about his actual ability and have him play a dirty tricks campaign. Madness.

...and now a PPV squash match? Have a fucking word. If he sticks around for much longer before fucking off to ROH I'll be very surprised...hell, even TNA could probably land him if WWE are going to continually use him in this manner.

Oh yeah, and Lesnar.

I'm distinctly confused by Prince Albert as Lord Tensai.

Lesnar/Rock @ Summerslam

Lesnar should have tried to stick it out in the UFC
He`ll just get portrayed as a dick on wwe again.

So... anyone in this thread appreciate actual wrestling? you know, the sport?

Greco-roman and All-American/Freestyle are a bit gay admittedly but Catch Wrestling is legit

particle-jim wrote:So... anyone in this thread appreciate actual wrestling? you know, the sport?

Greco-roman and All-American/Freestyle are a bit gay admittedly but Catch Wrestling is legit

I remember tuning into the Greco-Roman wrestling at the 1992 Olympics because something in the Hogan/Warrior Wrestlemania match got referred to as a Greco-Roman Wristlock... it wasn't quite what I'd been expecting.

The only real fighting sports I can get excited by are boxing and occasionally MMA (grown on me over the last year, definitely... but seeing people get choked out makes me properly uncomfortable)... I'm way too much of a pussy for genuine aggression.

magma wrote:but seeing people get choked out makes me properly uncomfortable

Fair play, I'm learning Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu so chokes and submission holds are something i've become accustomed to, the only thing I cant deal with is when people don't tap and end up with a broken limb (first rule: tap if you know you're fucked otherwise its not your opponent who beat you, it's your ego), i brought up catch wrestling as it shares a lot of the same holds and techniques as jiu-jitsu, its just a bit more strength based whereas jiu-jitsu is about leverage and balance. But yeah, you get used to seeing choke holds and the like, I once choked my brother unconscious using just my legs... no homo

also in b4

particle-jim wrote:I once choked my brother unconscious using just my legs... no homo

This comment is reaaaaaaaaaaaaally stretching the concept of 'no homo'.

particle-jim wrote:

magma wrote:but seeing people get choked out makes me properly uncomfortable

Fair play, I'm learning Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu so chokes and submission holds are something i've become accustomed to, the only thing I cant deal with is when people don't tap and end up with a broken limb (first rule: tap if you know you're fucked otherwise its not your opponent who beat you, it's your ego), i brought up catch wrestling as it shares a lot of the same holds and techniques as jiu-jitsu, its just a bit more strength based whereas jiu-jitsu is about leverage and balance. But yeah, you get used to seeing choke holds and the like, I once choked my brother unconscious using just my legs...no homo

I think I'd be tapping on behalf of my opponent and taking the loss if I thought they were really going to let me break something... I'm just not built for this shit.

Thing is, I've got huge respect for people that can master martial arts - learning to fight/defend is a really core part of being an adult male... I'm just terrified of the emotions involved in actually using them - probably why I like pro wrestling, it's got just the right level of controlled aggression for me.

(And please can you accompany me next time I go anywhere scary?)

wub wrote:

particle-jim wrote:I once choked my brother unconscious using just my legs... no homo

This comment is reaaaaaaaaaaaaally stretching the concept of 'no homo'.

Whilst it does sound (and admittedly kinda look) a bit gay, it is a legitmate technique Judokas and jiu-jitsu practitioners have been using for hundreds of years

it does definitely looks a bit gay though

magma wrote:

particle-jim wrote:

magma wrote:but seeing people get choked out makes me properly uncomfortable

Fair play, I'm learning Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu so chokes and submission holds are something i've become accustomed to, the only thing I cant deal with is when people don't tap and end up with a broken limb (first rule: tap if you know you're fucked otherwise its not your opponent who beat you, it's your ego), i brought up catch wrestling as it shares a lot of the same holds and techniques as jiu-jitsu, its just a bit more strength based whereas jiu-jitsu is about leverage and balance. But yeah, you get used to seeing choke holds and the like, I once choked my brother unconscious using just my legs...no homo

I think I'd be tapping on behalf of my opponent and taking the loss if I thought they were really going to let me break something... I'm just not built for this shit.

Thing is, I've got huge respect for people that can master martial arts - learning to fight/defend is a really core part of being an adult male... I'm just terrified of the emotions involved in actually using them - probably why I like pro wrestling, it's got just the right level of controlled aggression for me.

(And please can you accompany me next time I go anywhere scary?)

Mate I'm a massive pussy as well, that's why I'm learning Jiu-Jitsu, it's not known as "the gentle art" for nothing

particle-jim wrote:

magma wrote:

particle-jim wrote:

magma wrote:but seeing people get choked out makes me properly uncomfortable

Fair play, I'm learning Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu so chokes and submission holds are something i've become accustomed to, the only thing I cant deal with is when people don't tap and end up with a broken limb (first rule: tap if you know you're fucked otherwise its not your opponent who beat you, it's your ego), i brought up catch wrestling as it shares a lot of the same holds and techniques as jiu-jitsu, its just a bit more strength based whereas jiu-jitsu is about leverage and balance. But yeah, you get used to seeing choke holds and the like, I once choked my brother unconscious using just my legs...no homo

I think I'd be tapping on behalf of my opponent and taking the loss if I thought they were really going to let me break something... I'm just not built for this shit.

Thing is, I've got huge respect for people that can master martial arts - learning to fight/defend is a really core part of being an adult male... I'm just terrified of the emotions involved in actually using them - probably why I like pro wrestling, it's got just the right level of controlled aggression for me.

(And please can you accompany me next time I go anywhere scary?)

Mate I'm a massive pussy as well, that's why I'm learning Jiu-Jitsu, it's not known as "the gentle art" for nothing

Makes me feel even more of a pussy for quitting Jiu-Jitsu when I was younger that does. Wasn't Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu that I did, was just called Jiu-Jitsu and was taught dahn the local Working Mens. Got the the point where I was the highest in the grading system of the Juniors so they had me go to adult classes and get the fuck beaten out of me by 40 year old black belts. Got to do weapons training though which was sweeeeeet.

Blenky119 wrote:

particle-jim wrote:

magma wrote:

particle-jim wrote:

magma wrote:but seeing people get choked out makes me properly uncomfortable

Fair play, I'm learning Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu so chokes and submission holds are something i've become accustomed to, the only thing I cant deal with is when people don't tap and end up with a broken limb (first rule: tap if you know you're fucked otherwise its not your opponent who beat you, it's your ego), i brought up catch wrestling as it shares a lot of the same holds and techniques as jiu-jitsu, its just a bit more strength based whereas jiu-jitsu is about leverage and balance. But yeah, you get used to seeing choke holds and the like, I once choked my brother unconscious using just my legs...no homo

I think I'd be tapping on behalf of my opponent and taking the loss if I thought they were really going to let me break something... I'm just not built for this shit.

Thing is, I've got huge respect for people that can master martial arts - learning to fight/defend is a really core part of being an adult male... I'm just terrified of the emotions involved in actually using them - probably why I like pro wrestling, it's got just the right level of controlled aggression for me.

(And please can you accompany me next time I go anywhere scary?)

Mate I'm a massive pussy as well, that's why I'm learning Jiu-Jitsu, it's not known as "the gentle art" for nothing

Makes me feel even more of a pussy for quitting Jiu-Jitsu when I was younger that does. Wasn't Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu that I did, was just called Jiu-Jitsu and was taught dahn the local Working Mens. Got the the point where I was the highest in the grading system of the Juniors so they had me go to adult classes and get the fuck beaten out of me by 40 year old black belts. Got to do weapons training though which was sweeeeeet.

Well traditional japanese Jiu-Jitsu is a lot rougher than BJJ, mainly because it has more stand up/striking techniques as well as weapons training whereas BJJ is pretty much just pure grappling/ground fighting

particle-jim wrote: Well traditional japanese Jiu-Jitsu is a lot rougher than BJJ, mainly because it has more stand up/striking techniques as well as weapons training whereas BJJ is pretty much just pure grappling/ground fighting

Always liked the grappling, might look into that. Yeah it was pretty much the not quite full force but definitely full contact nature of the strikes that made me get the fuck out of dodge. Watching wrestling again has made me want to try get fit/into shape to try it out, something about the planned nature with little to no real malice combined with the theatrics appeals to me more than the indie mma feds, they always strike me as dog fighting without the dogs

So what the fuck are they actually going to do with Lesnar? Are they honestly going to get him to feud with Cena? Coz' that would right shit.

I'm all for Lesnar coming back, he's a good athlete, but guize.

Dead Rats wrote:So what the fuck are they actually going to do with Lesnar? Are they honestly going to get him to feud with Cena? Coz' that would right shit.

I'm all for Lesnar coming back, he's a good athlete, but guize.

TBF, Lesnar's return would've been nothing short of fantastic if they'd managed to keep a lid on it. But when Cena delivered his Rocky bait promo and the crowd were chanting WE WANT BROCK to the point where he was being drowned out, it killed the moment a bit.

wub wrote:

Dead Rats wrote:So what the fuck are they actually going to do with Lesnar? Are they honestly going to get him to feud with Cena? Coz' that would right shit.

I'm all for Lesnar coming back, he's a good athlete, but guize.

TBF, Lesnar's return would've been nothing short of fantastic if they'd managed to keep a lid on it. But when Cena delivered his Rocky bait promo and the crowd were chanting WE WANT BROCK to the point where he was being drowned out, it killed the moment a bit.

Crowd still went ape shit, though.

Cena's going to be like the opposite of a legend killer, every old stnuc gonna do im'