where can i get a mp3 of anti war dub?

auralassassin · Post by **auralassassin** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:32 pm

Plasticman wrote:I've probably had more trouble with music piracy than any other artist in the scene.

Many of you may remember the pulava when Cha got leaked on DC++ back in the days I used to post on RWD Forums.

First and foremost I, and many other producers in the grime and dubstep scenes produce music because it is a great way of expressing yourself. I don't do it to get paid but NOTHING in life comes for free, there is a price on everything. It costs me money to make these tracks, and I don't think asking 99p on Bleep is too much to ask for a high quality mp3.

If the track is available on shelves then go and buy it. If the track is available to buy online, then log on and buy it.

If you like the track and the artist that much that you would like to help them continue a successful career in music, then put some change in their pockets and help them fund the next release.

There's nothing worse than sitting on material you can't release due to lack of funds. I never earnt a penny off of a release you may well know - "Hard Graft" (aptly titled in the end!).

I was a student at the time and I was doing music to try and get me thru my 2 year course and pay the bills. Because of the situation I was in, I could not release another record myself for nearly 9 months after losing out on money from that release, and had to wait on payment for 3 other projects until I had enough to press my first Terrorhythm release.

Think about it. A lot of these musicians put a lot of time into putting their music out there for you people. Without your money in return they cannot financially contemplate releasing any more material. The sooner this starts happening, the more releases you will see on the shelves and the bigger the whole scene will get.

It's a vicious circle - just put your hand in your pocket and we can push things forward.

Plastician

RESPECT! I'll leave it at this... quoted for truth, accuracy, and because the largest name in the scene just told you he's not running to the bank on your pockets. How does it make you feel to know that some of the big names in dub/grime can't pay to put out more hot tracks?

I've taken note of everyone on here that admits to pirating music, and sees nothing wrong with stealing product. Don't be suprised when noone hands you dubs--you can't be trusted. And this is why.

Big ups to the one like Plastician. Pushing things forward in the Zero Six.!

dept of hell science · Post by **dept of hell science** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:34 pm

dubway wrote: if i love it hard enough - i would kill for it

there is one book: Crime and Punishment

...just playing devil's advocate here

but surely it's not stealing if someone is giving it away for free...

...or if it is quality product made only for those who can afford it then whats wrong with sharing the wealth

think of it as re distribution and every pirate as a robin hood...

...only they're a bit more indiscriminate and rob from the poor as well

frankly we don't give a fuck about it until we make some money of it and the people that own the rights don't neither...

...we make beats with cracked software, using illegal samples and don't pay tax or register it with any agency

I'd imagine if we made shitloads of money then the powers that be would come gunning...

...funny thing is, I reckon the people who make the best beats and create the best art prolly can't afford the licenses or the entry fee to the museum

auralassassin · Post by **auralassassin** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:42 pm

Dept of Hell Science wrote:but surely it's not stealing if someone is giving it away for free...or if it is quality product made only for those who can afford it then whats wrong with sharing the wealth...think of it as re distribution and every pirate as a robin hood...

It's not theirs to give... receiving stolen merch. still a crime... and what if it wasn't a crime, still unacceptable. Understood you are playing devils advocate--the day I lost my ass for the first time, I really understood what they were talking about though.

I've not gotten deals because of it, and people I know have not been paid what was theirs because of it. It's a business to those who are making the tracks--they decide, not you. Artists should have the ability to decide how they are marketted, that is their right--not yours.

If THEY want to give the music away, thats up to them... lot of people do, but they do it mainly to get their name out. once the name is out, they are bound by contract to not even give their OWN tunes away... thats business. I don't expect the average listener to understand--you are fucking over the people you respect the most... how is that proper?

spaceboy · Post by **spaceboy** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:46 pm

auralassassin wrote:
Plasticman wrote:I've probably had more trouble with music piracy than any other artist in the scene.

Many of you may remember the pulava when Cha got leaked on DC++ back in the days I used to post on RWD Forums.

First and foremost I, and many other producers in the grime and dubstep scenes produce music because it is a great way of expressing yourself. I don't do it to get paid but NOTHING in life comes for free, there is a price on everything. It costs me money to make these tracks, and I don't think asking 99p on Bleep is too much to ask for a high quality mp3.

If the track is available on shelves then go and buy it. If the track is available to buy online, then log on and buy it.

If you like the track and the artist that much that you would like to help them continue a successful career in music, then put some change in their pockets and help them fund the next release.

There's nothing worse than sitting on material you can't release due to lack of funds. I never earnt a penny off of a release you may well know - "Hard Graft" (aptly titled in the end!).

I was a student at the time and I was doing music to try and get me thru my 2 year course and pay the bills. Because of the situation I was in, I could not release another record myself for nearly 9 months after losing out on money from that release, and had to wait on payment for 3 other projects until I had enough to press my first Terrorhythm release.

Think about it. A lot of these musicians put a lot of time into putting their music out there for you people. Without your money in return they cannot financially contemplate releasing any more material. The sooner this starts happening, the more releases you will see on the shelves and the bigger the whole scene will get.

It's a vicious circle - just put your hand in your pocket and we can push things forward.

Plastician
RESPECT! I'll leave it at this... quoted for truth, accuracy, and because the largest name in the scene just told you he's not running to the bank on your pockets. How does it make you feel to know that some of the big names in dub/grime can't pay to put out more hot tracks?

I've taken note of everyone on here that admits to pirating music, and sees nothing wrong with stealing product. Don't be suprised when noone hands you dubs--you can't be trusted. And this is why.

Big ups to the one like Plastician. Pushing things forward in the Zero Six.!

LOL at taking note....please....

8bitwonder · Post by **8bitwonder** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:48 pm

auralassassin wrote:
Plasticman wrote:I've probably had more trouble with music piracy than any other artist in the scene.

Many of you may remember the pulava when Cha got leaked on DC++ back in the days I used to post on RWD Forums.

First and foremost I, and many other producers in the grime and dubstep scenes produce music because it is a great way of expressing yourself. I don't do it to get paid but NOTHING in life comes for free, there is a price on everything. It costs me money to make these tracks, and I don't think asking 99p on Bleep is too much to ask for a high quality mp3.

If the track is available on shelves then go and buy it. If the track is available to buy online, then log on and buy it.

If you like the track and the artist that much that you would like to help them continue a successful career in music, then put some change in their pockets and help them fund the next release.

There's nothing worse than sitting on material you can't release due to lack of funds. I never earnt a penny off of a release you may well know - "Hard Graft" (aptly titled in the end!).

I was a student at the time and I was doing music to try and get me thru my 2 year course and pay the bills. Because of the situation I was in, I could not release another record myself for nearly 9 months after losing out on money from that release, and had to wait on payment for 3 other projects until I had enough to press my first Terrorhythm release.

Think about it. A lot of these musicians put a lot of time into putting their music out there for you people. Without your money in return they cannot financially contemplate releasing any more material. The sooner this starts happening, the more releases you will see on the shelves and the bigger the whole scene will get.

It's a vicious circle - just put your hand in your pocket and we can push things forward.

Plastician
RESPECT! I'll leave it at this... quoted for truth, accuracy, and because the largest name in the scene just told you he's not running to the bank on your pockets. How does it make you feel to know that some of the big names in dub/grime can't pay to put out more hot tracks?

I've taken note of everyone on here that admits to pirating music, and sees nothing wrong with stealing product. Don't be suprised when noone hands you dubs--you can't be trusted. And this is why.

Big ups to the one like Plastician. Pushing things forward in the Zero Six.!

why be a child about it? if someone rips a track and plays it out somewhere and the crowd love it and ten people go buy it,isnt one free download worth ten legal ones?
a bit of sacrifice?

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:57 pm

Spaceboy wrote:it makes no sense to pay for something you can get for free.

hahaha, weren't you something to do with Hot Flush? If I'm right, I'm surprised you and Paulie didn't kill each other.

spaceboy · Post by **spaceboy** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:59 pm

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:03 pm

Guess I'm wrong then!

auralassassin · Post by **auralassassin** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:03 pm

8bitwonder wrote:why be a child about it? if someone rips a track and plays it out somewhere and the crowd love it and ten people go buy it,isnt one free download worth ten legal ones? a bit of sacrifice?

It's not usually like that though... with few exceptions, people downloading music already know what it is. I can honestly say that 95% of what I have learned about in the last 2 years was from downloading. Here's the pinch though, it was downloading mixed sets. They are free, and should be... THAT is how dance music is promoted, but handing those tracks to people you can(or should) be able to trust.

they play them and get the word out... obviously, you were asking were to get it... but the RUB, is that you weren't asking where to buy it, you were asking were you could download it for free... a track that you OBVIOUSLY already knew that you wanted. Like I said, I'm glad that you went the right way in the end. I hope that you make that choice all the time. It only takes ONE person to rip it and put it online and a label is sunk. Please don't be that one person. I'd like to think that in dubstep we hold ourselves to higher production values--and values as a people as well.

We're not drum n bass, lets stop acting like it.

spaceboy · Post by **spaceboy** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:05 pm

UFO over easy wrote:Guess I'm wrong then!

I did setup Hotflush with Paul yes and ran it for a couple of years. I'm still involved in music and associated with the label. But i do nick beats as well!

go figure that one out...............................

8bitwonder · Post by **8bitwonder** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:06 pm

auralassassin wrote:
8bitwonder wrote:why be a child about it? if someone rips a track and plays it out somewhere and the crowd love it and ten people go buy it,isnt one free download worth ten legal ones? a bit of sacrifice?
It's not usually like that though... with few exceptions, people downloading music already know what it is. I can honestly say that 95% of what I have learned about in the last 2 years was from downloading. Here's the pinch though, it was downloading mixed sets. They are free, and should be... THAT is how dance music is promoted, but handing those tracks to people you can(or should) be able to trust.

they play them and get the word out... obviously, you were asking were to get it... but the RUB, is that you weren't asking where to buy it, you were asking were you could download it for free... a track that you OBVIOUSLY already knew that you wanted. Like I said, I'm glad that you went the right way in the end. I hope that you make that choice all the time. It only takes ONE person to rip it and put it online and a label is sunk. Please don't be that one person. I'd like to think that in dubstep we hold ourselves to higher production values--and values as a people as well.

We're not drum n bass, lets stop acting like it.

erm whatever you just said im too stoned

auralassassin · Post by **auralassassin** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:07 pm

UFO over easy wrote:Guess I'm wrong then!

Nobody signed to any label, or running a label is going to be FOR downloading, unless it's paid for... and if they are, they arent going to be in business very long.

*edit* ok, one person is.

Hey there, Spaceboy... send me a copy of "Scuba - Twista" I'll pay for it twice anyway when it comes out

descent · Post by **descent** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:07 pm

Does anyone else find it ironic that this thread was started over a track called Anti War Dub ?

dept of hell science · Post by **dept of hell science** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:08 pm

auralassassin wrote: Artists should have the ability to decide how they are marketted, that is their right--not yours.

they are bound by contract to not even give their OWN tunes away... thats business...

many artists have no say at all, being bound by contract and all that...

...and you're right some aren't in it for business only but rather for art and breaking even

welcome to the 21st century...

...take note, the only rule is there are no rules

spaceboy · Post by **spaceboy** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:10 pm

auralassassin wrote:
UFO over easy wrote:Guess I'm wrong then!
Nobody signed to any label, or running a label is going to be FOR downloading, unless it's paid for... and if they are, they arent going to be in business very long.

*edit* ok, one person is.

Hey there, Spaceboy... send me a copy of "Scuba - Twista" I'll pay for it twice anyway when it comes out

ask scuba....im sure he can't wait to pass it to you

dept of hell science · Post by **dept of hell science** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:16 pm

^^^so you got anyting to do with the new post scuba imprint then ???

spaceboy · Post by **spaceboy** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:19 pm

Nope. All shall be revealed soon.

In the mean time STEAL MUSIC

and dont take life so seriously.

paulie · Post by **paulie** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:20 pm

No, and he's only "associated" with HF, so he couldn't send out Twista even if he wanted to...

auralassassin · Post by **auralassassin** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:21 pm

Spaceboy wrote:ask scuba....im sure he can't wait to pass it to you

I'm sure Scuba isn't as interested in giving away music as those who don't have record deals, etc... thats why I figured I'd ask random people--might as well, you are all into piracy.

spaceboy · Post by **spaceboy** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:22 pm

Paulie wrote:No, and he's only "associated" with HF, so he couldn't send out Twista even if he wanted to...

I dont even know what it is! dont try that one kiddo

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