The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread

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Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread

Post by Hashkey » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:10 pm

difference wrote:
Hashkey wrote:There you go -> LOEFAH.
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When I click on the track says it's not available. Strange
the sub sound has verb on it as well i believe but this is a good attempt. also the vocal sample needs to be more wet w/reverb and not as long.
Thanks for the good attempt :).
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you should post a little tutorial or a screenshot or something. would love to see how you made it! :Q:
Ok. Here we go:

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It's really easy to fuck up this kind of sounds. Sometimes even the slightest movement of a knob can vary the result of the sound.
Trying tons Of time I understood that a great part of the effect these guys have is by saturation and distortion. Good things happen when you chain a sine shaper and a brainer tube/tele Tube.
What out not to give it too much or will fuck the sound.
This patch should give you the an almost ready sound.
Apply some EQ to remove the Sub and to place it in the right spot in the mix at the begin will sound mote subby and low mid range but when you cut the sub and boost the higher mid range the sound will come up in the speakers. it's a midrange bass after all. Add some more saturation to taste, some slight chorus and reverb.
Hope You like it ;)
Btw I added some new stuff to the 16 Bar Loop.
Got a new Low Mid Range bass under the belt any suggestions?
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Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread

Post by somepony » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:25 am

Hashkey wrote:
difference wrote:
Hashkey wrote:There you go -> LOEFAH.
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When I click on the track says it's not available. Strange
the sub sound has verb on it as well i believe but this is a good attempt. also the vocal sample needs to be more wet w/reverb and not as long.
Thanks for the good attempt :).
dubunked wrote:nice dude, nerve gas?

you should post a little tutorial or a screenshot or something. would love to see how you made it! :Q:
Ok. Here we go:

Image

It's really easy to fuck up this kind of sounds. Sometimes even the slightest movement of a knob can vary the result of the sound.
Trying tons Of time I understood that a great part of the effect these guys have is by saturation and distortion. Good things happen when you chain a sine shaper and a brainer tube/tele Tube.
What out not to give it too much or will fuck the sound.
This patch should give you the an almost ready sound.
Apply some EQ to remove the Sub and to place it in the right spot in the mix at the begin will sound mote subby and low mid range but when you cut the sub and boost the higher mid range the sound will come up in the speakers. it's a midrange bass after all. Add some more saturation to taste, some slight chorus and reverb.
Hope You like it ;)
Btw I added some new stuff to the 16 Bar Loop.
Got a new Low Mid Range bass under the belt any suggestions?
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Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread

Post by Hashkey » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:25 pm

Which sound?

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Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread

Post by somepony » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:34 am

Hashkey wrote:Which sound?
The reese one, the 2nd.one...please D:

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Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread

Post by bouncingfish » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:27 pm

Hashkey wrote: Got a new Low Mid Range bass under the belt any suggestions?
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Wow. Dude.
These are the types of sounds that I think would improve my productions if I could master.
All the sounds in there are great, but especially the "WAH" sound in the beginning is really really nice.
How did you make it?
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Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread

Post by titchbit » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:17 pm

that massive screen shot is literally the sound you're looking for. read the thread. :W:

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Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread

Post by bouncingfish » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:14 pm

dubunked wrote:that massive screen shot is literally the sound you're looking for. read the thread. :W:
I did. Thought that was another sound, sorry.

No, I'm not retarded, why? :lol:

Thanks though. Nice!
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Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread

Post by titchbit » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:21 pm

No worries dude! :4:

I made that sound in Massive based on Hashkey's screenshot, but as I was making it, I saved the patch several times along the way. By slightly altering certain knobs or by turning off some of the effects, you can turn that into lots of cool sounds. For example turn down the distortion and phase mod and now you've got a nice subby/lowmid patch with good movement. Move the filter, change the LFO rate, change the pitch decay, change the wavetable, etc. All of those things will result in cool sounds. Do different combinations of these and you could easily get dozens of different sounds out of that screenshot. That's what this thread is for!

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Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread

Post by Miles P » Mon May 12, 2014 12:53 am

I don't know if I'm in the good topic, but I'm trying to recreate this bass sound, it sounds simple but I just can't get the sound..

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Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread

Post by titchbit » Mon May 12, 2014 1:40 am

Right thread!

it sounds layered to me. i would take an unaltered sine in one synth and use that for the sub. then for the more middy part of the sound, i would take a saw wave. lowpass filter it, but not too much, leave a good amount of room for those mids to come through. pretty basic patch really. maybe do some detuning, chorus, bit of distortion but not a lot, etc. and then to get the rhythmic aspect of that bass, take an LFO and apply it to volume mainly, but also to pitch or filter a little bit. overdoing it on the pitch/filter will sound really obviously bad. you gotta just apply a really subtle amount of LFO for the pitch or filter to get that effect. let us know how you do man.

ofc use the same midi for both sub and mids, and maybe even do the volume LFOing to the sub as well but don't do it with pitch/filter.

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Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread

Post by Miles P » Mon May 12, 2014 3:39 pm

dubunked wrote:Right thread!

it sounds layered to me. i would take an unaltered sine in one synth and use that for the sub. then for the more middy part of the sound, i would take a saw wave. lowpass filter it, but not too much, leave a good amount of room for those mids to come through. pretty basic patch really. maybe do some detuning, chorus, bit of distortion but not a lot, etc. and then to get the rhythmic aspect of that bass, take an LFO and apply it to volume mainly, but also to pitch or filter a little bit. overdoing it on the pitch/filter will sound really obviously bad. you gotta just apply a really subtle amount of LFO for the pitch or filter to get that effect. let us know how you do man.

ofc use the same midi for both sub and mids, and maybe even do the volume LFOing to the sub as well but don't do it with pitch/filter.
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Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread

Post by titchbit » Mon May 12, 2014 5:13 pm

Sounds relatively close. You definitely got the rhythm down with the LFOs. I would do a bit more lowpassing and maybe a bit more distortion to change the timbre of the saw wave a bit. Maybe light bitcrushing would work, not sure. Also, and I'm only listening on earbuds right now cause im not home so take this with a grain of salt, but mark pritchard's version sounds like it has more sub. maybe experimenting with the amp envelope for both the sub and the mids would help get the right balance of sub and mids. the sub sounds more punchy (no attack, short decay, no sustain), whereas the mids have a longer decay time.

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Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread

Post by Miles P » Mon May 12, 2014 5:23 pm

Yes, this draft isn't very subby, I'm working on it! I'm having trouble trying to get a closer tone..
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Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread

Post by titchbit » Mon May 12, 2014 5:25 pm

what daw/synth/plugs you using?

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Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread

Post by Miles P » Mon May 12, 2014 6:19 pm

I'm on Reason 5, i've made this sound with a Subtractor
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Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread

Post by High_Plains_Drifter » Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:50 am

Generally speaking, i'm rather happy with the sub bass i produce. But this, this is on another level altogether...

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Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread

Post by DrGatineau » Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:51 pm

sounds like pitched 808 kicks to me. try transposing an 808 sample. or if you're synthing your own, make a sub patch and put an envelope on pitch in the negative direction. mess around with the values and notes until you get something you're happy with.
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Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread

Post by bouncingfish » Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:26 pm

This is one I have been wondering how to make, the one on 1:03 (wahh).
This must count as a mid range sound right?

"uueheh mainstream uheheuhe"
Anyone care to explain how that is done?
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Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread

Post by DrGatineau » Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:34 pm

I'm not gonna walk thru the whole thing but some key elements:

-reverb
-getting the stabby envelope right
-using the right source (wavetable - metal sounding)
-LFO acheives the "wuh wuh" effect

I would use massive or fm synthesis for that. probably what he used.
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