what do you think is THE BEST dubstep tune?

[ehbes]

Alicia should not be on that list

[Harkat]

I wonder if people are afraid to like that tune cus it's too big and has a smooth vocal, a bit like saying inner city life is your favorite jungle tune, but it just does it for me man...

[Nihilism]

And Mala tunes are over-rated just cause it's Mala and everyone loves his persona.

Considering most people rate Mala as one of the best you really believe its because of his persona and not the music? Come on..

Well it's a combination of his talent + his persona + his position in the scene that results in it. Like, he's an amazing producer to begin with, but all the other things about him put him over the top. I think if someone like Skream had a classic record label that has only put out 30 (awesome) releases over the past decade, had a better attitude, didn't abandon the scene, was still making dubstep, and said things like "I hate promoting my own music, but I started Deep Medi cause so many incredible producers were sending me so much amazing material and I wanted to share it with the world," then people would probably rate him like they do Mala.

They're a little bit lacking in personality/identity to me and don't really capture what dubstep is about, for me.

If he lacks 'personality/identity' and doesn't capture what dubstep is about, who does in your opinion?

Well the operative word in there is for me. My taste in dubstep is different from Garethom's taste in dubstep. I like some of those types of tunes, but a lot of those Appleblim, Peverelist, Pangaea, Burial, Darkstar tunes just don't do it for me. It's just not my taste. I'm not saying it's no good. It's just not my favorite. imo pre-outside the box skream (not exactly sure if OTB is the right place to draw the line but it's somewhere around there) is my favorite type of dubstep. skream, benga, coki, kahn/gorgon sound, goth trad, kromestar, cluekid. that said, i still like the stuff skream is doing now, just not as much as skreamizm vol. II ya know?

Also I'm not saying Mala doesn't have personality/identity in his music, just those tunes I mentioned. Like I said, AWD, Blue Notez, 2 Much Chat are all incredible tunes imo that I rate over tunes like Neverland, Lean Forward, Education, etc.

The only question that comes up after reading your post is if you ever heard Neverland on a decent soundsystem. 'Cause what you now saying is just untrue. If there's one tune in the whole DMZ catalogue that has a own identity, then it's definitely that tune. That dark atmosphere that the tune is creating when playing is just phenomenal. It always give me the chills and it's like there's a whole other universum behind the tune. And in my eyes that's what craftsmanship means.

[Harkat]

we should close this thread

[Direflow]

we should close this thread

i can't until someone says Distance - Fallen (Vex'd remix) (garethom saying it doesn't count)

[Nihilism]

Yeah, 'cause when that happens it's gonna get out of hand.

[Direflow]

Yeah, 'cause when that happens it's gonna get out of hand.

well that and when i mentioned it in the underrated tunes thread, gareth said that if you mentioned "dubstep" and "best" at least one person will mention that tune but so far no one has

[RKM]

i bloody love fallen (vex'd remix)

[baddis98]

we should close this thread

[Muncey]

Well it's a combination of his talent + his persona + his position in the scene that results in it. Like, he's an amazing producer to begin with, but all the other things about him put him over the top. I think if someone like Skream had a classic record label that has only put out 30 (awesome) releases over the past decade, had a better attitude, didn't abandon the scene, was still making dubstep, and said things like "I hate promoting my own music, but I started Deep Medi cause so many incredible producers were sending me so much amazing material and I wanted to share it with the world," then people would probably rate him like they do Mala.

I don't really think it has much to do with his persona, his talent and place in the scene are much more important... his place in the scene is pretty much down to his talent both for making music and releasing the best. Plus I think most people on the whole rate Skreams back catalogue just as much as Malas, maybe not on the overall quality but hes definitely up there and rightly so... soo again your argument sorta falls down that people rate Mala cause of his persona.. despite Skreams pretty much polar opposite 'persona' you'll normally see him mentioned as much as Mala.

Well the operative word in there is for me. My taste in dubstep is different from Garethom's taste in dubstep. I like some of those types of tunes, but a lot of those Appleblim, Peverelist, Pangaea, Burial, Darkstar tunes just don't do it for me. It's just not my taste. I'm not saying it's no good. It's just not my favorite. imo pre-outside the box skream (not exactly sure if OTB is the right place to draw the line but it's somewhere around there) is my favorite type of dubstep. skream, benga, coki, kahn/gorgon sound, goth trad, kromestar, cluekid. that said, i still like the stuff skream is doing now, just not as much as skreamizm vol. II ya know?

Hmm well I wasn't expecting those names to capture what dubstep is about for you considering thats the type you'd normally hear Mala associated with and mixed with. It sorta sounds like you're lumping Mala in with the "Appleblim, Peverelist, Pangaea, Burial, Darkstar" style and not with the "skream, benga, coki, kahn/gorgon sound, goth trad, kromestar, cluekid".. I guess you just have a unique ear when it comes to Malas music

[scherou]

while dread is a big tune, its almost a cliché tbh. There are better Kahn tunes. Still though, hearing Dread in the dance is

and the VIP even more so

yeah i know what you mean m8, i put dread in the list because it's so well-known but you have to admit when it drops it is an absolute FLOATER. late night blues is my favourite tune by kahn probably. one of my most played 12"s

also i think i must be the only guy on dsf who prefers the original of dread to the vip

[titchbit]

The only question that comes up after reading your post is if you ever heard Neverland on a decent soundsystem. 'Cause what you now saying is just untrue. If there's one tune in the whole DMZ catalogue that has a own identity, then it's definitely that tune. That dark atmosphere that the tune is creating when playing is just phenomenal. It always give me the chills and it's like there's a whole other universum behind the tune. And in my eyes that's what craftsmanship means.

uhh i don't think so but still. I have heard it on my subwoofer of course but i suppose that isn't the same. meh.

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Well it's a combination of his talent + his persona + his position in the scene that results in it. Like, he's an amazing producer to begin with, but all the other things about him put him over the top. I think if someone like Skream had a classic record label that has only put out 30 (awesome) releases over the past decade, had a better attitude, didn't abandon the scene, was still making dubstep, and said things like "I hate promoting my own music, but I started Deep Medi cause so many incredible producers were sending me so much amazing material and I wanted to share it with the world," then people would probably rate him like they do Mala.

I don't really think it has much to do with his persona, his talent and place in the scene are much more important... his place in the scene is pretty much down to his talent both for making music and releasing the best. Plus I think most people on the whole rate Skreams back catalogue just as much as Malas, maybe not on the overall quality but hes definitely up there and rightly so... soo again your argument sorta falls down that people rate Mala cause of his persona.. despite Skreams pretty much polar opposite 'persona' you'll normally see him mentioned as much as Mala.

and yet this thread is evidence that he is not mentioned nearly as often as mala. if you're talking about articles on the web for people who know nothing about dubstep, skream is always up there obviously, but on dsf? i think about two people mentioned him ITT (one of them being me), but I didn't go back and count so I could be wrong. so yeah i think his persona/attitude/owning the two biggest record labels in the scene is what it comes down to. as a whole, i prefer skream's discography to mala's. although again i love mala's music too i can't stress that enough. also i disagree with the sentence that i bolded. again, i think skream has released better music and a hell of a lot more music than mala, but he isn't rated as high because of his persona/position in the scene/not owning the two biggest labels.

edit: I counted and (not including my posts) 9 skream tunes were mentioned and 18 mala tunes were mentioned

Well the operative word in there is for me. My taste in dubstep is different from Garethom's taste in dubstep. I like some of those types of tunes, but a lot of those Appleblim, Peverelist, Pangaea, Burial, Darkstar tunes just don't do it for me. It's just not my taste. I'm not saying it's no good. It's just not my favorite. imo pre-outside the box skream (not exactly sure if OTB is the right place to draw the line but it's somewhere around there) is my favorite type of dubstep. skream, benga, coki, kahn/gorgon sound, goth trad, kromestar, cluekid. that said, i still like the stuff skream is doing now, just not as much as skreamizm vol. II ya know?

Hmm well I wasn't expecting those names to capture what dubstep is about for you considering thats the type you'd normally hear Mala associated with and mixed with. It sorta sounds like you're lumping Mala in with the "Appleblim, Peverelist, Pangaea, Burial, Darkstar" style and not with the "skream, benga, coki, kahn/gorgon sound, goth trad, kromestar, cluekid".. I guess you just have a unique ear when it comes to Malas music

i don't think we're really on the same page. yes mala is usually associated and mixed with these artists because they made their biggest hits around the same era and come from the same labels (not completely but a good amount). however i think mala's music is very different from skream, benga, coki, kahn, GT, kromestar, and cluekid. that said, i didn't intend to lump him in with the appleblim, peverelist, pangaea crowd either. i don't think he belongs there. I think mala's music is pretty unique and stands alone.

[garethom]

There's a thread where people share their opinions on what they think is the best tune(s). Pretty simple, people saying what they like and it's not long before people start implying other people are hipsters, not underground enough/too underground and that the thread should be closed.

Great advert for DSF.

[Riddles]

There's a thread where people share their opinions on what they think is the best tune(s). Pretty simple, people saying what they like and it's not long before people start implying other people are hipsters, not underground enough/too underground and that the thread should be closed.

Great advert for DSF.

haha this got too serious far too fast

[Muncey]

Lol I didn't intend to get so serious I was just trying to understand how someone can think people only put his tunes into their top 5 cause of his persona. Can understand not liking someones music and thinking its overrated but to think its cause of his persona.. wot.

Anyway my bad.. I'll stop the discussion on the discussion board, continue with your lists.

[garethom]

Lol I didn't intend to get so serious I was just trying to understand how someone can think people only put his tunes into their top 5 cause of his persona. Can understand not liking someones music and thinking its overrated but to think its cause of his persona.. wot.

Anyway my bad.. I'll stop the discussion on the discussion board, continue with your lists.

Nah, you're fighting what I was talking about man. Swear, people have to come up with some stupid reason why people just like different tunes to other people

[Muncey]

Lol I didn't intend to get so serious I was just trying to understand how someone can think people only put his tunes into their top 5 cause of his persona. Can understand not liking someones music and thinking its overrated but to think its cause of his persona.. wot.

Anyway my bad.. I'll stop the discussion on the discussion board, continue with your lists.

Nah, you're fighting what I was talking about man. Swear, people have to come up with some stupid reason why people just like different tunes to other people

Oh right haha, again.. my bad.

Either way I think we've established its a tie between Distance - Fallen (Vex'd Remix) and Lean FWD.

[Riddles]

Not the best Distance or the best Vex'd tune tbh. See my list

Or the best Vex'dremix. That's The Knowledge (Vex'd Remix)

[Johoosh]

while dread is a big tune, its almost a cliché tbh. There are better Kahn tunes. Still though, hearing Dread in the dance is

and the VIP even more so

yeah i know what you mean m8, i put dread in the list because it's so well-known but you have to admit when it drops it is an absolute FLOATER. late night blues is my favourite tune by kahn probably. one of my most played 12"s

also i think i must be the only guy on dsf who prefers the original of dread to the vip

Haha never heard it described quite like that b4, do you mean floater as in bad?

I prefer the OG too, the VIP's intro is sick tho

[Harkat]

its all just bants

in fact it's cool to kinda recognize the thread between people's most rated tunes, like looking at garry's list you get a vibe for what kinda sounds he likes