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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:10 pm
by magma
kay wrote:It's just a dick, not like you don't see one every day (unless of course you're horribly overweight and can't actually see your dick, in which case I apologise). Tasteless cringeworthy penis gags are class.
Not to dig up the can of worms again, but I find it interesting that there seems to be a consensus that the use of "gay" as discussed here to describe something that "isn't going well, is shit, is meh, etc" is something that has been around for a very long time. It hasn't. Or at least I don't recall it being used much in that way prior to 2000. And back then they used "ghey" (which might signify that the originators of the term were indeed trying to get away with using the term as an oblique insult). Although I suppose a lot of you have grown up with its usage in this manner so it might seem like it's been around forever.
It was pretty much par for the course when I was at secondary school, tbh.. 93/94 onwards at least...
There are much better synonyms around though, saying gay isn't necessarily offensive, but it is pretty
weak*, dude (to be read in the voice of Eric Cartman)
*I apologise to anyone who has suffered bullying as a result of being physically weak. It's a pain I live with everytime I try and move furniture.
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:52 pm
by firky
Magma wrote:
*I apologise to anyone who has suffered bullying as a result of being physically weak. It's a pain I live with everytime I try and move furniture.
I am so skinny I have to run around the shower just to get wet
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:17 am
by rastatronics
Aftee wrote:Nobody is comparing them to negative things except the fucking people who take offense to it and see it as negative. It's being used as a slang word in its own with a completely different meaning. No relation to homosexuals whatsoever UNLESS you take it that way.
how is it supposed to be taken when u use the word "
gay" in place of "
lame" or "
shitty"?????
these are words that sound like they come from an stupid ignorant white-trailer trash bigot who doesn't understand shit about life nor the power of words and how they have an effect on others.
wake the fuck up or shut the fuck up dood.
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:24 am
by hurlingdervish
homophobes never think they are homophobes because they always have some perfect "rationalization" for it
if you didnt like Bruno, go suck a dick.
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:35 am
by rastatronics
hayze99 wrote:It's about the intention, pretty much every little kid uses the word gay that way, and there's no hatred or anything that comes with it.
agreed. it's just ignorance and not thinking about or even knowing what ur saying. still i expect more from a grown adult.
oh... and i will tell an ignorant adult who is spewing hate and defending it to stfu, everytime.
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:37 am
by firky
RASTATRONICS wrote:
oh... and i will tell an ignorant adult who is spewing hate and defending it to stfu, everytime.
even big hard boys?
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:41 am
by rastatronics
Firky wrote:RASTATRONICS wrote:
oh... and i will tell an ignorant adult who is spewing hate and defending it to stfu, everytime.
even big hard boys?
i really dont care if they are big hard boys if i am talking behind the comfort of my keyboard! lol
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:00 am
by firky
What would you do if a big hard boy jumped on your back, would you toss him off?
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:04 am
by rastatronics
Firky wrote:What would you do if a big hard boy jumped on your back, would you toss him off?
how old are you firky?? is "i know you are but what am i?" coming next?
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:05 am
by firky
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:01 am
by Dead Rats
Firky wrote:What would you do if a big hard boy jumped on your back, would you toss him off?
Heehee!
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:37 am
by lil-tee
gay has just become one of those words like shit, nobody necessarily wanted it to happen, and it's stuck, people use it all the time. I even know gay people that describe things as "gay" when they ain't good.
Hell, gay didn't even mean homosexual in the first place, it meant happy! It's just the way language evolves.
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:43 am
by surface_tension
lil-tee wrote:gay has just become one of those words like shit, nobody necessarily wanted it to happen, and it's stuck, people use it all the time. I even know gay people that describe things as "gay" when they ain't good.
Hell, gay didn't even mean homosexual in the first place, it meant happy! It's just the way language evolves.
it's a pejorative term. there's nothing left to discuss IMO. I've made a petition to a mod, so I guess we'll see if shit happens or it doesn't. certain members of this site definitely take offense.
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:48 am
by chester perry
Surface_Tension wrote:lil-tee wrote:gay has just become one of those words like shit, nobody necessarily wanted it to happen, and it's stuck, people use it all the time. I even know gay people that describe things as "gay" when they ain't good.
Hell, gay didn't even mean homosexual in the first place, it meant happy! It's just the way language evolves.
it's a pejorative term. there's nothing left to discuss IMO. I've made a petition to a mod, so I guess we'll see if shit happens or it doesn't. certain members of this site definitely take offense.
Get a life ffs. Are Yanks that soft that they cant take one little word. PC wins again.
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:00 am
by Dead Rats
Surface_Tension wrote:lil-tee wrote:gay has just become one of those words like shit, nobody necessarily wanted it to happen, and it's stuck, people use it all the time. I even know gay people that describe things as "gay" when they ain't good.
Hell, gay didn't even mean homosexual in the first place, it meant happy! It's just the way language evolves.
it's a pejorative term. there's nothing left to discuss IMO. I've made a petition to a mod, so I guess we'll see if shit happens or it doesn't. certain members of this site definitely take offense.
Certain members of this site that take offence so far consist of;
1) You.
2) ...er....
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:21 am
by tr0tsky
I take offence.
Put me on the list.
Get a life ffs. Are Yanks that soft that they cant take one little word. PC wins again.
PC gone mad. Muslim single parent mothers community centres trendy leftist teaching methods are abusing our soldiers in the EU gravy train.
Now where did I leave my copy of the Daily Mail...
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:28 am
by Dead Rats
Do you actually take offence or do you consider it offensive to other people?
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:39 am
by tr0tsky
No I don't take offense, I just know why it can be offensive.
The point of the matter is that regardless of how entrenched the language is, no matter what somebody's intentions are, it's still wrong to say that something bad is "gay" as it is to say it's "bloody Jewish" or "******" or "Pakistani".
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:44 am
by magma
tr0tsky wrote:No I don't take offense, I just know why it can be offensive.
The point of the matter is that regardless of how entrenched the language is, no matter what somebody's intentions are, it's still wrong to say that something bad is "gay" as it is to say it's "bloody Jewish" or "******" or "Pakistani".
I'm not sure that's true.
You wouldn't ever call a white person a ****** or a paki, but
one could describe a straight person as "gay" - hence, it doesn't strictly or particularly seriously mean homosexual in that use.
