Harkat wrote:And why the fuck can't you say it on twitter?
Not that you can't.
That I personally wouldn't.
I wouldn't either tbf. Allow that discussion really.
Re: Reasons why a UKIP vote is a good vote
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:26 pm
by magma
Forum Pain #257946
Writing a huge ass post and then realising it's the last before a new page.
Re: Reasons why a UKIP vote is a good vote
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:28 pm
by ezza
i hate that so much
Re: Reasons why a UKIP vote is a good vote
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:35 pm
by OGLemon
Great post, Magma. You raised a really important point. A majority of the things propagated by UKIP are based on lies and are not backed up by statistics. That is why the party is considered populist. They appeal to the emotions of a group of people who want an answer to why things are bad. UKIP provides that answer: immigrants and the EU. Easy scapegoats in the era of globalization. UKIP supporters dismiss all opposition as part of the "left-wing cultural Marxists agenda".
But that's the point really. The ruling class want the people to place their attention on each other than the puppet master pulling the strings.
Re: Reasons why a UKIP vote is a good vote
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:49 pm
by nobody
wub wrote:
Harkat wrote:
wub wrote:called Mohammed a paedophile on Twitter
This isn't actually wrong tho?
I honestly don't know. I've seen it written a few times in articles, but have never looked into it myself as to whether it's true or not.
Muhammad would definitely be considered a pedophile in today's standards. Almost all of the prophets in the Abrahamic religions did things that would be considered vile in today's world.
Abraham - Slave owner, deadbeat dad, exiled his son and mistress to the desert
Moses and crew - genocide, rape of 32,000 virgin Midianites, etc.
One of the main reasons why I don't follow that bullshit.
Re: Reasons why a UKIP vote is a good vote
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:03 pm
by hubb
OGLemon wrote:define political correctness
I love when this guy discusses it with himself
Re: Reasons why a UKIP vote is a good vote
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:05 pm
by Phigure
Bass_Jacka wrote:What really makes me laugh is all you lefties bleat on about how UKIP supporters are bigots, when in actual fact it is you who are the bigots. The amount of intolerance I've seen from you lot towards us UKIP supporters is appalling;
Bigot
/ˈbɪɡət/
noun: bigot; plural noun: bigots
a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions..
Magma, hubb, and others have covered everything pretty well but I feel like this point had to be addressed too.
We aren't intolerant of the opinions because they're different - we're intolerant because they're just plain stupid and reactionary (not to mention harmful). Also by that logic, anyone intolerant of sizan is a bigot. Are you saying we should be more tolerant of them and their differing opinions?
Bit ironic that this is coming from the same person complaining about how political correctness is somehow ruining your way of life
Re: Reasons why a UKIP vote is a good vote
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:10 pm
by nobody
At least this guy is trying to back his points up rationally, I don't think we've had that in this thread yet.
Re: Reasons why a UKIP vote is a good vote
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:11 pm
by hubb
Great posts
but
I couldn't even make a white kid in my own household these days. THIS COUNTRY.
Re: Reasons why a UKIP vote is a good vote
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:12 pm
by Phigure
OGLemon wrote:But that's the point really. The ruling class want the people to place their attention on each other than the puppet master pulling the strings.
Reminds me of a joke:
A capitalist, a white worker, and a black worker are sitting at a table with 10 cookies. The capitalist takes 9 of the cookies and leans over to the white worker and says, "Look out for that black guy, he's after your cookie."
Re: Reasons why a UKIP vote is a good vote
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:24 pm
by Forum
Wonder if there'll ever be a political discussion where Stewart Lee videos don't get posted
Re: Reasons why a UKIP vote is a good vote
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:38 pm
by wub
Forum wrote:Wonder if there'll ever be a political discussion where Stewart Lee videos don't get posted
Not a chance, what with all the Guardian readers we have on here.
Re: Reasons why a UKIP vote is a good vote
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:44 pm
by magma
wub wrote:
Forum wrote:Wonder if there'll ever be a political discussion where Stewart Lee videos don't get posted
Not a chance, what with all the Guardian readers we have on here.
How are those massive prawns working out for you, btw?
Bloody emigrants; going over there, taking their jobs.
Re: Reasons why a UKIP vote is a good vote
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:48 pm
by wub
magma wrote:How are those massive prawns working out for you, btw?
No idea, none of these stnuc speak English well enough for me to ask.
Re: Reasons why a UKIP vote is a good vote
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:52 pm
by rickyarbino
wub wrote:There are a number of it's members that make overtly racist comments. For example;
William Henwood, Enfield UKIP candidate - said Lenny Henry should emigrate to a "black country"
Andre Lampitt, UKIP campaign video spokesperson - called Mohammed a paedophile on Twitter, and that Ed Miliband was Polish and "not a real Brit"
Heino Vockrodt , Brent UKIP candidate - sent an email stating that Muslims in the consituency had a "totalitarian ideology" and were grooming children.
Gerard Batten, MEP & party immigration spokesman - said Muslims should sign a special code of conduct if they wanted to live in Britain
Marine Le Pen of the French National Party was surprised when Farage rejected a European alliance between them and UKIP as she felt UKIP's policies greatly mimicked the FNP's own. That's a warning sign by itself. Alan Sked, the guy who founded the party, has called Farage a dim witted racist drunk, and that he (Farage) once said in 2004 that they would "never win the n*gger vote".
I'm not sure all of those are legitimately racist tbh.
Re: Reasons why a UKIP vote is a good vote
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:53 pm
by Muncey
I don't get the 'pay into the system before taking out' argument tbh, it seems exclusive to foreigners. I think it'd be quite a noble act to help disadvantaged people looking to improve their life and contribute, demanding contribution before you receive any help is asking a bit much of disadvantaged people who have nothing.
Most people here are born on the NHS, you effectively come into this world already "leeching" off the state, thats okay if you're British though? Brits not only get but expect free loading until the age of 16, free health care, free education, your parents even get benefits to help cloth and feed you. Thats 16 years of leeching before most contribute and even then theres a minority of Brits who end up doing fuck all. But a poor foreigner trying to better their life? GIVE US SOME MONEY FIRST!!
Pretty hypocritical I think.
Re: Reasons why a UKIP vote is a good vote
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:54 pm
by garethom
Forum wrote:Wonder if there'll ever be a political discussion where Stewart Lee videos don't get posted
rockonin wrote:What sort of shitty world do we live in, when even the homeless are prone to an arse assault.
The one where a guy named "rockonin" posts on a forum dedicated to kicking them too.
Nt a tru hed if u cnt follo.
Re: Reasons why a UKIP vote is a good vote
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:00 pm
by Forum
rickyarbino wrote:
wub wrote:There are a number of it's members that make overtly racist comments. For example;
William Henwood, Enfield UKIP candidate - said Lenny Henry should emigrate to a "black country" Racist
Andre Lampitt, UKIP campaign video spokesperson - called Mohammed a paedophile on Twitter, and that Ed Miliband was Polish and "not a real Brit" Shit stirring, xenophobic
Heino Vockrodt , Brent UKIP candidate - sent an email stating that Muslims in the consituency had a "totalitarian ideology" and were grooming children. Ignorant
Gerard Batten, MEP & party immigration spokesman - said Muslims should sign a special code of conduct if they wanted to live in Britain Surely too ridiculous to be a direct quote
I'm not sure all of those are legitimately racist tbh.
