To start with people were shocked and not sure what was really happening, but its got to the point where communities have had enough of it, there aren't enough Police to stop rioting all over if that is what the country wants to do....but the majority don't want it and have started standing up to people now, you'd have to be a pretty determined looter to risk getting caught by that EDL lot or some of the big local groups that have been getting together, also- I don't think people will generally see others as snitches if they dob in looters because the majority of people are so pissed off with them.
Police are threatening being tougher and the news will start showing people going to court rather than looting, will soon put the morons off that thought it was consequence free.
Re: UK riots
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:47 pm
by brasco
Mr Hyde wrote:To start with people were shocked and not sure what was really happening, but its got to the point where communities have had enough of it, there aren't enough Police to stop rioting all over if that is what the country wants to do....but the majority don't want it and have started standing up to people now, you'd have to be a pretty determined looter to risk getting caught by that EDL lot or some of the big local groups that have been getting together, also- I don't think people will generally see others as snitches if they dob in looters because the majority of people are so pissed off with them.
more communities on the streets as a whole would be good, less pissed up EDL/mobs of blokes chanting en-gerr-land.
Re: UK riots
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:51 pm
by Mr Hyde
brasco wrote:
Mr Hyde wrote:To start with people were shocked and not sure what was really happening, but its got to the point where communities have had enough of it, there aren't enough Police to stop rioting all over if that is what the country wants to do....but the majority don't want it and have started standing up to people now, you'd have to be a pretty determined looter to risk getting caught by that EDL lot or some of the big local groups that have been getting together, also- I don't think people will generally see others as snitches if they dob in looters because the majority of people are so pissed off with them.
more communities on the streets as a whole would be good, less pissed up EDL/mobs of blokes chanting en-gerr-land.
yep, they do seem like trouble just waiting to happen, but there are lots of other groups that have been protecting their neighbourhoods...the police even said something along the lines of that being a big part of why they got control of things in London last night.
Re: UK riots
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:56 pm
by pompende
^for sure. you don't want short-tempered pricks like that thinking they've been given any sort of mandate by the public
Re: UK riots
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:58 pm
by brasco
Mr Hyde wrote:
brasco wrote:
Mr Hyde wrote:To start with people were shocked and not sure what was really happening, but its got to the point where communities have had enough of it, there aren't enough Police to stop rioting all over if that is what the country wants to do....but the majority don't want it and have started standing up to people now, you'd have to be a pretty determined looter to risk getting caught by that EDL lot or some of the big local groups that have been getting together, also- I don't think people will generally see others as snitches if they dob in looters because the majority of people are so pissed off with them.
more communities on the streets as a whole would be good, less pissed up EDL/mobs of blokes chanting en-gerr-land.
yep, they do seem like trouble just waiting to happen, but there are lots of other groups that have been protecting their neighbourhoods...the police even said something along the lines of that being a big part of why they got control of things in London last night.
yeah i suppose the media has mainly focused on the groups of mainly white blokes with cans of stella running around looking for anyone 'dodgy'.
if you were asian/black etc in the street walking i cant imagine you would feel that much less intimidated with 300 of them coming towards you than the looters
test recordings wrote:Objectivity is for pussies though? More like people who can think for themselves
wub wrote:I'm not saying that I'm not forming my own opinion. I just don't subscribe to the view of pure objectivity. It is possible to still report the story (and by this I mean the facts) whilst at the same time putting across your own opinion on it.
I get your point about listening to different opinions and from this forming your own etc, but I can't really grasp how one can decline or not like objectivity.
There's nothing more rational and neutral than 'pure objectivity', is there?
I've got no problem with objectivity, and you're quite right regarding neutrality. It's just personal taste that I look for news/fact/reporting outlets that aren't purely straight down the middle. I have an opinion about how I want to get the news etc, and as such I look for something that gives an opinion back.
It might not be an opinion that I like or necessarily subscribe to, but it's just what I prefer.
Whoops, sorry Wud I didn't mean it as a dig at you! It was meant for the person posting before who said derided people who like attempted objectivity...
Each to their own, everyone is of course entitled to their own opinion
Re: UK riots
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:26 pm
by Mr Hyde
The bold experiment in public order was declared a success after thugs and looters realised there were 16,000 heavily armoured professionals, each carrying a big fuck-off stick with their name on it.
The government may now extend 'policing' beyond Royal weddings, the Cheltenham Festival and the fat, jolly, middle-aged one who stands outside 10 Downing Street and hands petitions to the person who then puts them in the bin.
Home secretary Theresa May said: "We should not jump to conclusions. We need to study the results of last night's experiment to make sure that we do not begin policing Britain's streets by mistake.
"Were the rioters a bit tired after three nights of unmolested chaos? Was there anything particularly good on the television? I, for instance, was watching The Mentalist."
Suddenly-introverted rioter Martin Bishop said: "I decided that, on balance, I did not want to be shot in the chest with a plastic bullet. Perhaps if I believed in something, or had some kind of grievance, then maybe. But for the time being I would prefer to remain indoors."
However there were disturbances in parts of Britain that don't matter.
Roy Hobbs, assistant chief constable of West Midlands Police, said something unimportant and reading it would only be a waste of your valuable time.
And Gloucester now faces a 7pm curfew for the next 18 months amid fears that an invitation to an engagement party in Winchcombe may have been set on fire deliberately.
But the country's sombre mood has been boosted as Labour leader Ed Miliband cut short his Amnesty International-approved holiday and offered to help the police investigation with his bionic nose.
He said: "I stand ready and able to sniff out guilt, simmering resentment or a hot Wii."
Miliband insisted he would not make political capital out of the riots but said it would never have happened under a Labour government because until May last year inner-city youths were all exactly the same as Billy Elliot.
Meanwhile, in Manchester, debate continues over whether the city had experienced serious social unrest or a Tuesday.
faust.dtc wrote:To snitch or not to snitch, that is the question...
What would you do if you recognised one of the looters?
I'd probably completely disassociate myself with them. If they're tnucish enough to be looting they're not worth being friends with at all. Fuck em. Not sure if I'd snitch on them, but definately would make every effort to avoid ever making contact with them again.
Re: UK riots
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:39 pm
by AntlionUK
Might be a repost
This behaviour is DISGUSTING. No matter if these people were rioters or not, they did NOTHING to the police that attacked them.
Re: UK riots
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:40 pm
by cosmic_surgeon
magma wrote:
badger wrote:this guy kills it
That guy kills it.
That guy kills it.
I keep telling people, stop talking bullshit until all the facts are in. So many people "think" they know what these riots are all about... "a laugh", the BBC would have us believe - and shit maybe it's true, but has anybody taken the views of a large sample of those rioting and tried to understand what they're all about? Of course they haven't.
It's amazed me how many people who never bat an eyelid when the police kill somebody, or when US marines gang rape an Iraqi woman, all of a sudden fancy themselves a bit of a politics professor on the basis of a narrative the mass media are following (which focuses on a very small fragment of the events) without understanding anything else about the situation whatsoever.
The way these politicians are dealing with the situation is with the subtlety of a blunt axe. Why doesn't Cameron promise to STOP corporate tax evasion and put that money back into the economy where it belongs, instead of talking big and ignoring the problems people like the dude in that video address? A study cited by this article claims that 1% economic growth in India during the muslim riots yielded 5% less chance of rioting. No one can blame Cameron for the recession, but they can blame him and his government for surrendering billions to corporate tax thieves while creating stealthy tax breaks for the super rich, letting public services and our education system crumble.
Re: UK riots
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:49 pm
by borrowed
faust.dtc wrote:To snitch or not to snitch, that is the question...
What would you do if you recognised one of the looters?
