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Re: Working Out....

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:17 am
by Laszlo
The bar has to be counted??

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:21 am
by wub
Laszlo wrote:The bar has to be counted??
AHA! So it's not just me that didn't know this! :corndance:

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:24 am
by Laszlo
Not just you, no :) . So is that the industry standard then? hmmm, looks like i'm hencher than I thought :h:

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:26 am
by wub
Laszlo wrote:Not just you, no :) . So is that the industry standard then? hmmm, looks like i'm hencher than I thought :h:
Apparently Olympic bars at 20kg, though I weighed the long bar at my gym I used to bench with and it's only 10kg.

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:33 am
by Laszlo
-q- ....

Also, what is PPLRPPR?

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:34 am
by wub
Laszlo wrote:-q- ....

Also, what is PPLRPPR?
Push, Pull, Legs, Rest, Push, Pull, Rest

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:41 am
by Laszlo
......... isn't that.....a.... five day split?

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:42 am
by wub
Laszlo wrote:......... isn't that.....a.... five day split?
No as I'm not splitting by body part (legs aside).

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:45 am
by Laszlo
omg so much being learned today :Q:

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:56 pm
by OGLemon
Went hard today on chest & biceps. Starting to see some nice definition in my legs.

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:17 pm
by Genevieve
STILL DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE I SHOULD DO. POWER CLEANS OR DEADS. Blah, I think I'll do deads. I know I can do them and I won't have to fiddle with form for 6 weeks.

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:57 am
by Genevieve
Dumbell curls > barbel curls. By a fucking long shot. Jesus it's not even the same exercise.

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:02 pm
by wub
Don't think I've ever curled with a BB to think of it? I do EZ bar curls w/ OH grip for my forearms though.

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:03 pm
by Laszlo
-r-

Edited because of bullshit/bad advice/new evidence has come to light/ etc.

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:11 pm
by Genevieve
Nah, I'm comparing the distinct feeling of doing curls now with when I did them with a barbell. Feels like I'm activating more.

Palm position has little to do with effectiveness and more with WHAT is targeted. For example, hammer curls add more width but less thickness compared to regular curls. Also target forearms more.

Dumbells are better than barbells IN GENERAL too. Less assymetry because when you load a barbell with weight and use both arms, the stronger arm will help out the weaker one. Where you're effectively training one arm more than the other. With dumbells, you tend to stop when your weaker arm gives out.

Benching too. Dumbells increase your range of motion, allowing you to activate more of your chest. Yeah, barbell benches may allow you to push more overal weight, but that's because of the limited range of motion.

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:33 pm
by Jurrecane
Perhaps anybody in here can help me. I'm thinking about starting to use some supplement just for a better recovery and hoping signs of overtraining and injuries will be less this way. But I have no idea about any of these things.
So can anybody gives me some info on Whey, L Glutamine and BCAA's. What does each of those do in particular and which you would recommend? Would be very helpfull because there is so much info on the internet about it I don't know where to start..

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:45 pm
by garethom
How can I wear myself out without using my feet? Getting very bored with this sprained ankle. Can do upper body at the gym but I want to lose as little cardio gains as possible...

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:46 pm
by Jurrecane
High reps high sets, Super setting, try 20 push ups --> 20 pull ups --> 20 dips. Great cardio work out.

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:52 pm
by Laszlo
Jurrecane wrote:Perhaps anybody in here can help me. I'm thinking about starting to use some supplement just for a better recovery and hoping signs of overtraining and injuries will be less this way. But I have no idea about any of these things.
So can anybody gives me some info on Whey, L Glutamine and BCAA's. What does each of those do in particular and which you would recommend? Would be very helpfull because there is so much info on the internet about it I don't know where to start..
I'm sure Gen can give you solid info as to the whys BUT the bottom line is - all you need is whey (it's just protein which is what your body needs to build/repair muscle) and creatine.

L Glutamine is shite. A waste of money, you don't need it.
BCAA have their place if you're a high end bodybuilder on a cut but it's also (as in for most people) bollocks. You get enough of what it is in the rest of your diet (if your diet is somewhat on point that is)
garethom wrote:How can I wear myself out without using my feet? Getting very bored with this sprained ankle. Can do upper body at the gym but I want to lose as little cardio gains as possible...
Yeah try upper body circuits b2b breath restriction.

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:54 pm
by Jurrecane
Is there any supplement that doens't make me grow to much? I don't really want to gain a lot of weight as i'm focusing on gymnastics stuff.