US conducted a Haiti help drill 1 day before the earthquake

[alien pimp]

i know you said you admire magma for knowing his words and being wise, do you share his view on my misogynism too?

No. I just think you are a prick.

big deal
the real issue here is even magma fans think he sucked

[magma]

but how about mysoginism, so basically the expression "deal with it like a man" should not be used by people respectful towards women, right?

It was a flippant comment that you've made an awfully big deal out of because it's deflecting attention away from the fact that you can't back up your argument*... I wanted to break down the average Alien Pimp post to demonstrate your level of debate rarely rises above insults. The misogyny reference was rather more an extension of the confusion arising from you making so many references to cocks and testicles... you really do seem to be obsessed with male genitalia.

I don't think you're a misogynist any more than you believe you've shagged my Mum or [non-existant] sister, which you've said numerous times - let's not get into over-analysing these things... it'll make a fool out of us both.

*But anyway, back to the topic. What evidence, apart from a possible motive, do you have that this was caused by humans? If you give solid evidence people will believe you... if you just hurl insults about scrotums, then it's just not worth it... I'd rather you didn't drag us all down with you, so I'll restrict my comments on this thread to the subject at hand only from now on.

[alien pimp]

but how about mysoginism, so basically the expression "deal with it like a man" should not be used by people respectful towards women, right?

It was a flippant comment that you've made an awfully big deal out of because it's deflecting attention away from the fact that you can't back up your argument*... I wanted to break down the average Alien Pimp post to demonstrate your level of debate rarely rises above insults. The misogyny reference was rather more an extension of the confusion arising from you making so many references to cocks and testicles... you really do seem to be obsessed with male genitalia.

I don't think you're a misogynist any more than you believe you've shagged my Mum or [non-existant] sister, which you've said numerous times - let's not get into over-analysing these things... it'll make a fool out of us both.

*But anyway, back to the topic. What evidence, apart from a possible motive, do you have that this was caused by humans? If you give solid evidence people will believe you... if you just hurl insults about scrotums, then it's just not worth it... I'd rather you didn't drag us all down with you, so I'll restrict my comments on this thread to the subject at hand only from now on.

it's like a pattern, you change your opinion 180 degrees every 5 posts but never say "i'm sorry i was a bitch about it"
because you have no balls!

[magma]

What evidence, apart from a possible motive, do you have that this was caused by humans?

[danoldboy]

Why is it so hard for some to believe that a country that has a history of frequent and devastating natural disasters would be included in the relief planning by another country that carries out humaitarian operations in that region as part of their wider disaster planning. On this forum even the innocous is dragged into the realms of conspiracy. Yes the US has vested interests in everything it does but ridiculous suggestions like they knew it was just about to happen because they conducted a dril 1 day before ( a drill they may do every day or periodically for all we know) divert attention from the larger chess games taking place.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... untry.html
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[alien pimp]

On Monday, Jean Demay, DISA's technical manager for the agency's Transnational Information Sharing Cooperation project, happened to be at the headquarters of the U.S. Southern Command in Miami preparing for a test of the system in a scenario that involved providing relief to Haiti in the wake of a hurricane. After the earthquake hit on Tuesday, Demay said SOUTHCOM decided to go live with the system.

http://www.nextgov.com/nextgov/ng_20100 ... f=topstory

Are there any other sources reporting on this or corroborating any of the details in the article?

Just came across this from the department of defense website, it lends quite a bit of weight to the suggestions of the planning being a coincidence or even a small part of an ongoing broader relief strategy being put together by the US. They mounted a relief effort in Haiti in mid 2008 so it stands to reason that the region would be included in their planning.

American Forces Press Service

Since 2005, U.S. Southern Command has led U.S. military support to 14 major relief missions, including assistance to Haiti in September 2008. During that mission, U.S. military forces from USS Kearsarge and other units airlifted 3.3 million pounds of aid to communities that were devastated by a succession of major storms.

http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=57566

missed this big post before, if i find out there were more exercises that's rather an argument their occurrence is not that rare so the coincidence is not that big after all. but if they all happened after the oil discovery, then it might be a proof the plan was prepared long time

i think we'll find out soon enough, lots of people want us outta there and they'll dig for any info

[alien pimp]

What evidence, apart from a possible motive, do you have that this was caused by humans?

never claimed i have any evidence, not even being sure of anything about this, but i can easily have a huge amount of evidence you're a hypocritical coward pussy that can't read:

it all comes down to: do you believe in such huge coincidences, especially considering the history that showed most of these coincidences proved to be a plan?
no one can have now a decisive and undebatable answer, but one thing is true and provable: considering all that's been said, there's deffo bigger chances to be a plan than a coincidence
of course there's still that 0.01% that sometimes happen to beat the 99.99%, but... hmmm...
we'll see

[missedthebus]

Mr Gates’s comments came after the United Nations urged international charities on Tuesday to co-ordinate their relief efforts in Haiti to avoid creating further bottlenecks in ferrying vital supplies to the earthquake-stricken country.

Ban Ki-moon, UN secretary-general, said uncoordinated and unsolicited assistance would stretch limited resources, as he appealed to non-governmental agencies “to work with the UN to ensure efforts complement each other and not duplicate them”.

Mr Ban did not name any agencies but there has been widespread criticism of the lack of co-ordination of aid distribution in the week since the magnitude 7.0 earthquake that Haitian officials say killed between 100,000 and 200,000 people.

As US troops ramped up their operation to ferry food and other supplies by helicopter to victims of the disaster, the UN Security Council voted to send an additional 3,500 soldiers and police to reinforce its 9,000-strong peacekeeping force.

The Dominican Republic has offered about 800 soldiers to boost the UN force, although their deployment will depend on the agreement of the Haitian government, which has sometimes had fraught relations with its island neighbour.

Additional police units may come from Italy and other European contributors, said UN officials.

Mr Ban said on Tuesday that the co-ordination of relief supplies through the Port-au-Prince airport and via road from the Dominican Republic had improved and 1m Haitians would have received urgent food supplies by the end of the week.

“Relief operations are gearing up quickly,” Mr Ban told reporters in New York. “We are making rapid progress despite extraordinarily difficult logistics problems.”

Referring to Mr Ban’s caution about unsolicited aid, John Holmes, UN humanitarian co-ordinator, said NGOs were an essential part of the relief operation that was under way. “What we are concerned about … is that we don’t get organisations of a well-meaning kind that send supplies and clog up the system,” he said.

Other officials said concerns were mounting for victims outside the capital. “There are 40 rescue teams in Port-au-Prince. We don’t know how many there are elsewhere,” said one official.

A central motive for the UN reinforcing its peacekeeping force was fear of a breakdown in law and order as desperate Haitians continued to wait for assistance one week after the earthquake.

The US military presence – 2,000 additional airborne troops were due to arrive on Tuesday to join 1,000 already on the ground – will focus on securing aid delivery points in advance and then ferrying in supplies.

In a division of labour between the UN and the US, the peacekeepers are responsible for maintaining law and order, while American forces will focus on getting supplies as rapidly as possible to the disaster victims.

Mr Gates has said US soldiers are under orders to defend themselves, as well as Haitians and foreigners who face a threat.

Relief operations by a host of UN agencies and international charities were being co-ordinated by Mr Holmes’s department, the Office for the Co-ordination of Humanitarian Affairs, with food, medical aid and communications at the top of their list of priorities.

With fuel supplies among the factors hindering aid distribution, the UN’s World Food Programme was planning to move 10,000 gallons of diesel a day from the Dominican Republic. Its International Organisation for Migration was assessing construction of a temporary shelter for 100,000 people left homeless by the earthquake.

As relief workers tried to cope with the disaster, efforts were under way on measures such as restoring the banking system.

The OCHA said local banks were planning to open 30 to 40 distribution points within the week. Many Haitians depend on remittances sent by relatives among large Haitian communities in the US and elsewhere.

[Dead Rats]

Can someone call me a ginger prick so I can get in on this beef, please? I feel left out of this forum, lately. Everyone's all in little factions, warring with eachother.

[magma]

Article waay too long to requote

Cheers for that!

[magma]

Can someone call me a ginger prick so I can get in on this beef, please? I feel left out of this forum, lately. Everyone's all in little factions, warring with eachother.

Ginger lilywhite prick.

[Dead Rats]

Can someone call me a ginger prick so I can get in on this beef, please? I feel left out of this forum, lately. Everyone's all in little factions, warring with eachother.

Ginger lilywhite prick.

oh u jst wish u cud b ginga u tnuc

[Blue Patterns]

Surprise surprise, forum beef sparks between AP and Magma.

[alien pimp]

Surprise surprise, forum beef sparks between AP and Magma.

6 months old or something
and it's no beef, it's harassment

[canby]

Is it page 8 when everyone kisses and makes up?

[collige]

Is it page 8 when everyone kisses and makes up?

No, you're thinking of page 15.

[kay]

What a stupid thread.

If I had a fucking earthquake machine, I wouldn't keep it fucking secret to slowly take over a fucking island after wiping out 100000 people that would've become hardy cheap slave labour.

Any country with an earthquake generator could literally hold the rest of the world to ransom. Actually generating earthquakes, however, is bloody poor economical reasoning simply because you have to pump a shitload of money to fix the infrastructure and terrain for the place to be economically viable again. Much cheaper and quicker to set up a puppet government.

People are bloody dying or dead and all someone can think about is "How can I suggest that the US is in some way responsible for this?".

Fucking numnuts.

[Firkles]

The Internet.

[magma]

Can someone call me a ginger prick so I can get in on this beef, please? I feel left out of this forum, lately. Everyone's all in little factions, warring with eachother.

Ginger lilywhite prick.

oh u jst wish u cud b ginga u tnuc

oh u scm jst wish u cud b top of da prem!

Twat.

[CollisionCourse]

Is it page 8 when everyone kisses and makes up?

No, you're thinking of page 15.

so whats the page when everone wanks themself blind?