Some amazing archaeology

[alien pimp]

What are my sources?
Libraries, offcial studies, lectures by professionals, seminars. Not a photo podcast of 1 hour.

I'm not irrational, if i would be irrational i wouldn't even have watched the video probably...
I'm just providing some anwers and questions to the points you guys make.
I'm quite confident these cases Klaus Dona mentions are perfectionally rationally explainable, if we can't do it know, we will find out sometime in the (near) future.
Untill then, I just follow mainstream science.

i didn't ask what are YOUR sources, but what are your sources' sources? can you understand that simple question or just your mind blocks any question that disturbs it, as in cognitive dissonance?
isn't all coming from an initial discovery like this guy's?
you say you are CONFIDENT but you provide NO REASON to be confident, i asked you many times to provide explanations for those discoveries, never came up with one, especially as a historian that's a fail

[hackman]

history was written by the winners and the biggest propaganda machines

we're not talking about history here, we are talking about sources and archeology.

when i was at school a picture was classed as a source for A level

also a picture stands up in a court of law as evidence

hmmmmm......

[alien pimp]

That's the thing, you all think that some select group of people control your lives... that is just plain bullshit.

Some of you guys remind me of this type of person:

yeah, like most of the intelligent people i've met, as opposed to people who avoid to ask themselves any questions that might disturb the beliefs seeded in them by the propaganda machine of the state and every time they are made to face proves and questions they come out with overused jokes and chicken out, because they can't handle the truth
i wear my tinfoil hat with pride, it helped me countless times to predict forthcoming events, while your kind is always amazed with the new developments and thinks the earth is flat because most people think so

What events?
What has the country of belgium to do with skulls in south america ?

go in search function, look up for the word "bet" and author "alien pimp" and you'll find a fraction of them
i don't understand your question about belgium, no one referred to it and i don't understand how can you claim anything in this debate as long as your historian expertise doesn't help you contribute more info and explanations in this thread, just tired jokes and claims you know shit you never tell about

[fretn]

propaganda machine of the state

--> This

[alien pimp]

propaganda machine of the state

--> This

this kind of replies is all you could contribute, you mean, mr historian?
what if most historians and archeologists act like you? do we have then an explanation why some discoveries aren't voiced enough? yes we do!
do i have then reasons to be proud about my tinfoil hat? yes i do!

[karmacazee]

Have you met most geologists, archeologists and historians? They're like the nerdiest, most humble people I've ever seen, some of them are even vaguely disturbing because they're so into their chosen subject it gets a bit sad. I can't see these people wanting to cover anything up. If they found anything that groundbreaking they would probably actually piss themselves

But seriously, early humans , and I'm talking pre-civilization, hunter-gatherer nomadic humans that migrated across the planet some 50,000 - 30,000 years ago, were just as intelligent as we are today. They were literally exactly the same as we are now, except they didn't have the benefit of a mutual collective knowledge of things, because they lived in small dispersed groups as compared to today. And they probably had a different average height, heh. But the fact remains, they were capable of everything that we're capable of now, and to say that they needed the help of aliens from Orion is a great discredit to them, if you ask me. Great example is bone needles found in Siberia that date as far back as 20,000 years ago. Needles for sewing animal skins together for clothes and shelter - a genius invention even before we'd discovered how to farm! Being able to do that meant we were able to survive the ice-age, and have nomadic houses that could be erected and taken down in time to follow the herds.

There actually isn't any concensus on how and when early human civilizations started. The Evolution vs Revolution debate still rages amongst biologists, historians and archaeologists....

There are stacks of exhaustive evidence pointing to our African origins, though, and a lot of it is buried within our DNA. We carry our biological history with us

Stephen oppenheimer fuses genetic science, archaeology, climatology and fossil study to come to his conclusions - that's a lot of corroborative evidence that's very hard to dispute.

http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/

I'm not discrediting the guy in the OP entirely, I just think these finds mean something else to the conclusion he came to, and that's just my opinion. There's plenty of unexplained archaeological findings out there that make no sense whatsoever, and they shouldn't be ridiculed or cast aside - when they first found and brought back a duck-billed platapus people thought it was a complete hoax...

[karmacazee]

Ok, just to say, the post above was based on what people have been saying in this thread, and the stuff I've read on all this before on different sites.

I'm watching the vid right now.

[hackman]

Have you met most geologists, archeologists and historians? They're like the nerdiest, most humble people I've ever seen, some of them are even vaguely disturbing because they're so into their chosen subject it gets a bit sad. I can't see these people wanting to cover anything up. If they found anything that groundbreaking they would probably actually piss themselves

But seriously, early humans , and I'm talking pre-civilization, hunter-gatherer nomadic humans that migrated across the planet some 50,000 - 30,000 years ago, were just as intelligent as we are today. They were literally exactly the same as we are now, except they didn't have the benefit of a mutual collective knowledge of things, because they lived in small dispersed groups as compared to today. And they probably had a different average height, heh. But the fact remains, they were capable of everything that we're capable of now, and to say that they needed the help of aliens from Orion is a great discredit to them, if you ask me. Great example is bone needles found in Siberia that date as far back as 20,000 years ago. Needles for sewing animal skins together for clothes and shelter - a genius invention even before we'd discovered how to farm! Being able to do that meant we were able to survive the ice-age, and have nomadic houses that could be erected and taken down in time to follow the herds.

There actually isn't any concensus on how and when early human civilizations started. The Evolution vs Revolution debate still rages amongst biologists, historians and archaeologists....

There are stacks of exhaustive evidence pointing to our African origins, though, and a lot of it is buried within our DNA. We carry our biological history with us

Stephen oppenheimer fuses genetic science, archaeology, climatology and fossil study to come to his conclusions - that's a lot of corroborative evidence that's very hard to dispute.

http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/

I'm not discrediting the guy in the OP entirely, I just think these finds mean something else to the conclusion he came to, and that's just my opinion. There's plenty of unexplained archaeological findings out there that make no sense whatsoever, and they shouldn't be ridiculed or cast aside - when they first found and brought back a duck-billed platapus people thought it was a complete hoax...

i agree a lot with what you've said, and also disagree with a lot
will be interested to see your thoughts once you've actually watched the video

also, i never meant that aliens from orion helped these people do these things
these people were able to do that stuff cos they were fully conscious, clairvoyants
the aliens from orion are IMO the "gods" that came to these people

[belb]

if there are aliens from "orion" that'd be a bit odd, seeing as it's a constellation - i.e. an abstract human construct, not a physical place. about 200-odd annunaki homeworlds to choose from i suppose

[hackman]

splitting hairs

[parson]

i bet that dude thinks the archeology site is a reliable source

[belb]

i try to keep an open mind ta parson. i've only skimmed the thread and don't even know what site you're referring to but i'll be watching the vid tonight. i think it's perfectly possible (and actually quite likely) that there's all sorts of archaeological inconsistencies that are ignored / suppressed as they don't quite fit "standard" history

the orion thing just seemed so obvious i'm surprised nobody else brought it up, i don't understand how it's splitting hairs

[hackman]

if there are aliens from "orion" that'd be a bit odd, seeing as it's a constellation - i.e. an abstract human construct, not a physical place. about 200-odd annunaki homeworlds to choose from i suppose

its splitting hairs cos its patently obvious that i mean a planet or planets orbiting a star from the orion constellation
i really don't see your point lol

[belb]

sorry if i misunderstood ye then. but if these big lizards are so involved in manipulating human history, has no curious illuminati chap or whoever ever asked them to narrow it down a bit? "orion" seems a bit bloody vague considering that could mean they live 20-odd or 30000-odd light years away

[parson]

they're zeta reticulans duh

wait no thats the grays. i forget

[hackman]

sorry if i misunderstood ye then. but if these big lizards are so involved in manipulating human history, has no curious illuminati chap or whoever ever asked them to narrow it down a bit? "orion" seems a bit bloody vague considering that could mean they live 20-odd or 30000-odd light years away

cos barley any illuminati know whats going on, they answer to someone, who answers in turn to someone else etc etc

i'd assume they would be living on a number of worlds, not just one planet in orion

collier says they originate from draco, it's only the rogue group that manipulate earth that are from orion, i don't know it gets confusing

[parson]

alpha draconis

[hackman]

dats the one

[alien pimp]

sorry if i misunderstood ye then. but if these big lizards are so involved in manipulating human history, has no curious illuminati chap or whoever ever asked them to narrow it down a bit? "orion" seems a bit bloody vague considering that could mean they live 20-odd or 30000-odd light years away

when big lizards come in the conversation i tend to be amused and annoying same time.
i'm with the gryphons

[Shae]

fuccccccckkkk.... why did I read this whole thread before bed, that arcticle on pyramid powers, woooow I'm gonna have some crazy dreams tonight, out to hackman, nicenice, parson and alien pimp for all the info, out to fretn for leading his one man army