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Re: Just bought a Mac - Useful Software?
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:16 pm
by Depone
Moxxiedubstep wrote:nitz wrote:wirez wrote:Moxxiedubstep wrote:lol @ everyone has a music degree. Alright.. so.. again...explain bit rate and bit depth. and why you think wav cant have the same "quality" as mp3?
Because an MP3 is compressed audio format which significantly introduces levels of distortion specifically in the highest and lowest frequencies of the track.
As previously stated, we're not stupid.
Bellend.
While wave is a none loss format. (i think AIF is as well, used by iTunes...)
Exactly, so wav holds a wider spectrum, problem with wav is the size. AIFF is the same in a way
Contradicting statements =
Moxxiedubstep wrote:and why you think wav cant have the same "quality" as mp3?
and
Moxxiedubstep wrote:Exactly, so wav holds a wider spectrum, problem with wav is the size. AIFF is the same in a way
Just to prove a point
Re: Just bought a Mac - Useful Software?
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:17 pm
by nitz
Moxxiedubstep wrote:nitz wrote:wirez wrote:Moxxiedubstep wrote:lol @ everyone has a music degree. Alright.. so.. again...explain bit rate and bit depth. and why you think wav cant have the same "quality" as mp3?
Because an MP3 is compressed audio format which significantly introduces levels of distortion specifically in the highest and lowest frequencies of the track.
As previously stated, we're not stupid.
Bellend.
While wave is a none loss format. (i think AIF is as well, used by iTunes...)
Exactly, so wav holds a wider spectrum, problem with wav is the size. AIFF is the same in a way
Exactly, so there is the answer. Hence why MP3 do not has the same bit depth and bit rate as wave, as mp3 are compressed files I do not have a degree is music tech, and Depone's knowledge may far subpass my's, as he has a higher qualification then me, but this is not a agreeable discussion, its a matter of fact.
Re: Just bought a Mac - Useful Software?
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:18 pm
by marshy
I like how 3 posts in a row, by myself, Depone and Nitz, all make exactly the same point.
Re: Just bought a Mac - Useful Software?
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:19 pm
by Moxxiedubstep
Moxxiedubstep wrote:wirez wrote:Moxxiedubstep wrote:wirez wrote:Moxxiedubstep wrote:lol @ everyone has a music degree. Alright.. so.. again...explain bit rate and bit depth. and why you think wav cant have the same "quality" as mp3?
Because an MP3 is compressed audio format which significantly introduces levels of distortion specifically in the highest and lowest frequencies of the track.
As previously stated, we're not stupid.
Bellend.
And this effects bit depth and rate how? Sure you can get on the right track, but then again youre not Depone.
LOL BY REDUCING THEM CAUSING A LOWER FILE SIZE SUITABLE FOR SMALLER CAPACITY PORTABLE MP3 PLAYERS.
Ffs, the funny thing is, noobs require less spelling of things out than you do and you've been producing a WHOLE THREE MONTHS
Depone easily knows more than me on this stuff anyway loool
wirez I can see why your music is trash aswell. -_-. nice call upon arms though, to say depone knows more than you do.
For someone in college your comprehension skills are garbage. Considering i stated that song was when i first started producing DUBSTEP , not music entirely.
smfh.
They are still lpcm format nitz both WAV and AIFF use bitstreaming for data. blah.
Re: Just bought a Mac - Useful Software?
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:21 pm
by Moxxiedubstep
wth? size and Hz are two different things. lol wow. Hz determines bit rate ,bit rate determine bit depth.
Re: Just bought a Mac - Useful Software?
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:23 pm
by wirez
Oh right, it all sort of made sense when you said you'd been producing 3 months... But you've been producing longer?
I think you must have bounced your current track as a low quality mp3 and uploaded it to soundcloud or something then mate? There must have been a mistake if you're a good, experienced producer because your mix is really muddy?
Re: Just bought a Mac - Useful Software?
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:23 pm
by marshy
How do you think mp3s are smaller in file size then? What do you think happens during audio compression?
Re: Just bought a Mac - Useful Software?
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:24 pm
by wirez
Moxxiedubstep wrote:wth? size and Hz are two different things. lol wow. KBPS determines SAMPLE rate ,bit rate determine bit depth.
Re: Just bought a Mac - Useful Software?
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:27 pm
by nitz
Lets just leave it peeps, i don't think your going to get anywhere on this one.
Let him think what he wants, and let us know continue to know the real facts.
Re: Just bought a Mac - Useful Software?
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:28 pm
by Moxxiedubstep
wirez wrote:Oh right, it all sort of made sense when you said you'd been producing 3 months... But you've been producing longer?
I think you must have bounced your current track as a low quality mp3 and uploaded it to soundcloud or something then mate? There must have been a mistake if you're a good, experienced producer because your mix is really muddy?
oh boy... yea let me uh...upload a 320 on soundcloud.....
Yes, Ive been producing other genres of music than dubstep.
And my current track is far from muddy. Get some better monitors.Mate
Re: Just bought a Mac - Useful Software?
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:29 pm
by marshy
Re: Just bought a Mac - Useful Software?
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:29 pm
by Depone
Moxxie, no more questions for me? you still havent answered my question for you...
Re: Just bought a Mac - Useful Software?
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:37 pm
by Moxxiedubstep
wirez wrote:Moxxiedubstep wrote:wth? size and Hz are two different things. lol wow. KBPS determines SAMPLE rate ,bit rate determine bit depth.
Wirez.. i stand corrected on the sample rate part. but kpbs is bit rate. got alittle keyboard happy
"sample rate determines bit depth"
Re: Just bought a Mac - Useful Software?
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:38 pm
by Moxxiedubstep
Depone wrote:Moxxie, no more questions for me? you still havent answered my question for you...
Depone, honestly you havent given me any reason to believe what you are saying.
Re: Just bought a Mac - Useful Software?
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:48 pm
by Depone
Moxxiedubstep wrote:Depone wrote:Moxxie, no more questions for me? you still havent answered my question for you...
Depone, honestly you havent given me any reason to believe what you are saying.
So... being educated about advanced music production and audio PHYSICS, digital audio etc..., I dont cut the mustard?
Whatever you say i can come back with a reasonable correct answer. Now im not saying i know it all becasuse i dont. but i do believe im in a better position to make a point than you; A music maker who likes to sample youtube, doesn't realise the defects in this, and makes really
amazing assumptions about people.
I rest my case
Re: Just bought a Mac - Useful Software?
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:50 pm
by Depone
and does wirez monitors suck because your track sounds muddy on them? probably not, it sounds like soup on mine too.
Re: Just bought a Mac - Useful Software?
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:54 pm
by stappard
Depone wrote:and does wirez monitors suck because your track sounds muddy on them? probably not, it sounds like soup on mine too.
Think it might be time for the sane people in this thread to cut their losses. This thread reads like trying to explain gravity to a cat. I mean, the concepts aren't as complex as gravity but this guy is clearly a lot less intelligent than a cat.
Re: Just bought a Mac - Useful Software?
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:55 pm
by nitz
stappard wrote:Depone wrote:and does wirez monitors suck because your track sounds muddy on them? probably not, it sounds like soup on mine too.
Think it might be time for the sane people in this thread to cut their losses. This thread reads like trying to explain gravity to a cat. I mean, the concepts aren't as complex as gravity but this guy is clearly a lot less intelligent than a cat.
nitz wrote:Lets just leave it peeps, i don't think your going to get anywhere on this one.
Let him think what he wants, and let us know continue to know the real facts.
Re: Just bought a Mac - Useful Software?
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:56 pm
by Depone
nitz wrote:stappard wrote:Depone wrote:and does wirez monitors suck because your track sounds muddy on them? probably not, it sounds like soup on mine too.
Think it might be time for the sane people in this thread to cut their losses. This thread reads like trying to explain gravity to a cat. I mean, the concepts aren't as complex as gravity but this guy is clearly a lot less intelligent than a cat.
nitz wrote:Lets just leave it peeps, i don't think your going to get anywhere on this one.
Let him think what he wants, and let us know continue to know the real facts.
Aww and i was just starting to have fun !
Re: Just bought a Mac - Useful Software?
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:59 pm
by stappard
Depone wrote:nitz wrote:stappard wrote:Depone wrote:and does wirez monitors suck because your track sounds muddy on them? probably not, it sounds like soup on mine too.
Think it might be time for the sane people in this thread to cut their losses. This thread reads like trying to explain gravity to a cat. I mean, the concepts aren't as complex as gravity but this guy is clearly a lot less intelligent than a cat.
nitz wrote:Lets just leave it peeps, i don't think your going to get anywhere on this one.
Let him think what he wants, and let us know continue to know the real facts.
Aww and i was just starting to have fun !
