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AllNightDayDream wrote:

pkay wrote:also the major untold story is about the soldier they bought most of this information from and how he will likely either A) be executed or B) spend the rest of his life in leavenworth making small rocks out of large rocks.

As noble as he thinks what he's doing is, he condemned a man to death in order to create the meme of 2010

It's truly a sad tale, but TBH he done goofd spilling his guts out about it.

yea you don't commit treason then brag about it and expect no consequences, especially if you're a gov't employee

deadly habit wrote:

AllNightDayDream wrote:

pkay wrote:also the major untold story is about the soldier they bought most of this information from and how he will likely either A) be executed or B) spend the rest of his life in leavenworth making small rocks out of large rocks.

As noble as he thinks what he's doing is, he condemned a man to death in order to create the meme of 2010

It's truly a sad tale, but TBH he done goofd spilling his guts out about it.

yea you don't commit treason then brag about it and expect no consequences, especially if you're a gov't employee

Yeah reading that conversation made me cringe more than once. I think he must've been drunk or something

deadly habit wrote:

AllNightDayDream wrote:

pkay wrote:also the major untold story is about the soldier they bought most of this information from and how he will likely either A) be executed or B) spend the rest of his life in leavenworth making small rocks out of large rocks.

As noble as he thinks what he's doing is, he condemned a man to death in order to create the meme of 2010

It's truly a sad tale, but TBH he done goofd spilling his guts out about it.

yea you don't commit treason then brag about it and expect no consequences, especially if you're a gov't employee

soldiers don't get paid much.... you have to take into account the malicious intent of wikileaks. They purposely sought out a low level soldier who was young and impressionable, they knew his paygrade and permission, and purposely sought to use him knowing good and well when they published the articles he would be the scape goat.

If wikileaks were true champions of truth they'd willingly confront the governments after them as they would feel that this is public knowledge and that they had done nothing wrong.

Truth is wikileaks is an oportunistic venture based off of the iraqi war and surrounding events.... and if there wasn't money to be made they wouldn't have done it.

I'm not out to get this guy, just not buying his beacon of truth stance. He made a buck off an easy target

pkay wrote:

deadly habit wrote:

AllNightDayDream wrote:

pkay wrote:also the major untold story is about the soldier they bought most of this information from and how he will likely either A) be executed or B) spend the rest of his life in leavenworth making small rocks out of large rocks.

As noble as he thinks what he's doing is, he condemned a man to death in order to create the meme of 2010

It's truly a sad tale, but TBH he done goofd spilling his guts out about it.

yea you don't commit treason then brag about it and expect no consequences, especially if you're a gov't employee

soldiers don't get paid much.... you have to take into account the malicious intent of wikileaks. They purposely sought out a low level soldier who was young and impressionable, they knew his paygrade and permission, and purposely sought to use him knowing good and well when they published the articles he would be the scape goat.

If wikileaks were true champions of truth they'd willingly confront the governments after them as they would feel that this is public knowledge and that they had done nothing wrong.

Truth is wikileaks is an oportunistic venture based off of the iraqi war and surrounding events.... and if there wasn't money to be made they wouldn't have done it.

I'm not out to get this guy, just not buying his beacon of truth stance. He made a buck off an easy target

you forget i'm ex army?
and yea you'd figure for someone for "transparency" etc he's do a better job looking out for his sources or at least find ones who are smart enough to look out for themselves
assange really is just the public figurehead for a group whose motivations i really question

deadly habit wrote:

pkay wrote:

deadly habit wrote:

AllNightDayDream wrote:

pkay wrote:also the major untold story is about the soldier they bought most of this information from and how he will likely either A) be executed or B) spend the rest of his life in leavenworth making small rocks out of large rocks.

As noble as he thinks what he's doing is, he condemned a man to death in order to create the meme of 2010

It's truly a sad tale, but TBH he done goofd spilling his guts out about it.

yea you don't commit treason then brag about it and expect no consequences, especially if you're a gov't employee

soldiers don't get paid much.... you have to take into account the malicious intent of wikileaks. They purposely sought out a low level soldier who was young and impressionable, they knew his paygrade and permission, and purposely sought to use him knowing good and well when they published the articles he would be the scape goat.

If wikileaks were true champions of truth they'd willingly confront the governments after them as they would feel that this is public knowledge and that they had done nothing wrong.

Truth is wikileaks is an oportunistic venture based off of the iraqi war and surrounding events.... and if there wasn't money to be made they wouldn't have done it.

I'm not out to get this guy, just not buying his beacon of truth stance. He made a buck off an easy target

you forget i'm ex army?
and yea you'd figure for someone for "transparency" etc he's do a better job looking out for his sources or at least find ones who are smart enough to look out for themselves
assange really is just the public figurehead for a group whose motivations i really question

ex air force here.... i just dont see the glory in bribing an e-4. (also don't see why a 22 year old had TS-3 clearance but that's another story)

i just get the impression wikileaks would have cut any number of throats to build their name.

you'd figure they'd publish some intell and documents from countries other than the US too

private manning got himself into shit by telling his bro about the leaks he gave up.
his bro told the authoritus!!

its just like when ya do anything sifty... don't saying anything to anyone other than those concerned!

!!chea

deadly habit wrote:you'd figure they'd publish some intell and documents from countries other than the US too

they only have this one source... once its done its done. dont know anyone stupid enough to leak to wikileaks anymore

nah... even more people will leak info now!

!!chea

Sirius wrote:nah... even more people will leak info now!

!!chea

yeah especially since they know they'll get put on trial and executed!

since when did scare tactics stop anything?
since when did imprisonment stop anything?

the more martyrs there are... the more it becomes a revolution!

WHO IS AFRAID OF THE TRUTH??

why is transparency such a bad thing?

!!chea

Sirius wrote:since when did scare tactics stop anything?
since when did imprisonment stop anything?

the more martyrs there are... the more it becomes a revolution!

WHO IS AFRAID OF THE TRUTH??

why is transparency such a bad thing?

!!chea

except these people arent about truth and martyrdom... they're about makin cash

kid who leaked was about cash, wikileaks is about cash

what cash? got any links?

!!chea

pkay wrote:

Sirius wrote:since when did scare tactics stop anything?
since when did imprisonment stop anything?

the more martyrs there are... the more it becomes a revolution!

WHO IS AFRAID OF THE TRUTH??

why is transparency such a bad thing?

!!chea

except these people arent about truth and martyrdom... they're about makin cash

kid who leaked was about cash, wikileaks is about cash

I fail to see where exactly the money is being made. Donations? Wikileaks ain't exactly doin' so well these days.

collige wrote: I fail to see where exactly the money is being made. Donations? Wikileaks ain't exactly doin' so well these days.

most media outlets pay for appearances... fairly certain a book by mr j would sell a couple million copies, data mining from email lists/traffic info, plenty of ways to make money off websites without banners.

yup take a look at who was hosting them in the past, that and concerns over their paypal being shut down/frozen
there's a bit more than transparency and just exposing info going on like they lead on

Fair enough. But why are you so certain that money is the primary goal behind this operation. Wikileaks was around long before the Manning/War Log stuff which got all this media attention. Where is the money to be made in the Somalia and Australia leaks?

pkay, ya know there doesn't have to be a money making scheme behind everything!

sometimes the truth is more important than anything else.

we don't even know how many people are behind wikileaks, they get donations to run the show & do what they can
in our age of enlightenment!

I don't know many people who don't support wikileaks... if ya don't, explain why not!

truth, honesty, justice.... ya can't have one without the other!!

!!chea

hmm
Assange seeks bail money from supporters

knell wrote:hmm
Assange seeks bail money from supporters

ffs
donate for a cause, not to be someone's personal bankroll