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Haha... Deep heads? I resent that title or being type-casted as one even though I have, and will continue to do so as long as people resign themselves to making it, called much of what is titled dubstep as 'noise.' I find discussing this at length quite frivolous and pointless and the only explanation I could use to differentiate the two would be to direct people to listen to the stuff for themselves and decide which is best for them. If losing your head to a bunch of jump-up for 2 hours is your thing, by all means, but if you want to 'meditate on bass weight' there are options out there for those in the UK and other parts of Europe. Every where else is left buying tracks and doing it for themselves.

Coki is tear-out, Goth-trad plays on both sides and does it well--its simply not what I particularly like about the man, but it has to be said. The chestplate crew as tearout? I don't think so.

Intended Malice wrote:Haha... Deep heads? I resent that title or being type-casted as one even though I have, and will continue to do so as long as people resign themselves to making it, called much of what is titled dubstep as 'noise.' I find discussing this at length quite frivolous and pointless and the only explanation I could use to differentiate the two would be to direct people to listen to the stuff for themselves and decide which is best for them. If losing your head to a bunch of jump-up for 2 hours is your thing, by all means, but if you want to 'meditate on bass weight' there are options out there for those in the UK and other parts of Europe. Every where else is left buying tracks and doing it for themselves.

Coki is tear-out, Goth-trad plays on both sides and does it well--its simply not what I particularly like about the man, but it has to be said. The chestplate crew as tearout? I don't think so.

that claim is laughable. lol check your facts brohamlinson!

When, and only when, I start seeing names like V.I.V.E.K, Tunnidge, Kryptic Minds, Jack Sparrow, Horsepower, Digital Mystikz, Loefah, Youngsta & SP:MC, Quest, Truth, Goth-Trad, Pinch, Deleted Scenes, Random trio, Distance, Ben Verse, LX One. DJ Madd, Lurka, and Icicle being booked on a regular basis like in the UK and in certain parts of the EU will I find reason to find any hidden irony in my statement in the US. As of yet... all I see are packed danced floors with angst filled moshing kids begging for the latest chainsaw wobble et all because that is what sales watered down beer at $6 a cup. Its fine that it happens (laissez-faire) but to defend it to be something it is not is quite unfathomable to me.

I'm not impressed at all with dubsteo in the US. Event or production wise. (No tangents made, but it must be denoted.)

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Intended Malice wrote: I'm not impressed at all with dubsteo in the US. Event or production wise. (No tangents made, but it must be denoted.)

i do agree to an extent, but there are some great exceptions such as DJG etc

/waste

Intended Malice wrote:When, and only when, I start seeing names like V.I.V.E.K, Tunnidge, Kryptic Minds, Jack Sparrow, Horsepower, Digital Mystikz, Loefah, Youngsta & SP:MC, Quest, Truth, Goth-Trad, Pinch, Deleted Scenes, The Others, Distance, Ben Verse, LX One. DJ Madd, Lurka, and Icicle being booked on a regular basis like in the UK and in certain parts of the EU will I find reason to find any hidden irony in my statement in the US. As of yet... all I see are packed danced floors with angst filled moshing kids begging for the latest chainsaw wobble et all because that is what sales watered down beer at $6 a cup. Its fine that it happens (laissez-faire) but to defend it to be something it is not is quite unfathomable to me.

I'm not impressed at all with dubsteo in the US. Event or production wise. (No tangents made, but it must be denoted.)

i think the one thing i've learned from this is to not take your opinions seriously. all i can say is open your eyes, and only talk about what you know.

all I see are packed danced floors with angst filled moshing kids begging for the latest chainsaw wobble

that's as ignorant of a comment as people that hate on dubstep in general because of that one doctor p track they've heard.

because that is what sales watered down beer at $6 a cup

in all seriousness, that's funny and sort of true, but certainly not true of every club and really depends on the region.

Its fine that it happens (laissez-faire) but to defend it to be something it is not is quite unfathomable to me.

if you think that's the type of bass i'm defending, you're mistaken. i'm defending artists like distal, joe nice, incyde, martyn, pandai'a, sepalcure, sines, starkey, dubbel dutch, gaslamp killer, drop the lime, noah d, faltydl, etc.

Well as someone who's been making dubstep for a little under a year i always consider if the track i just made would be deemed "brostep" or anything along those lines, while at the same time i try to shape my own style and keep in mind what i am being influenced by.

With that being said, its kind of worrisome with all the hate going on throughout this genre and on this forum right now...because in the end, it will affect the outcome of it.
Feels bad man, I started making stuff cause I liked everything this genre had to offer, and now shits going down kinda. And of course house music sounds have changed but house music has always been dance oriented for the club, and from what I am reading in this thread, the "deep"heads aren't always in the club enjoying the banger tracks. Just listen to everything and be open to new styles, and know what sounds like shit to your ears.

maybe memories of previous scenes makes them un-easy about the tunes

sup ladies, my head gits deep, nawmean?

hit me up, gurl

Genevieve wrote:sup ladies, my head gits deep, nawmean?

hit me up, gurl

You dyke.

@otherguy

The only thing I derived from this is that you cannot/have difficulty reading; as I initially stated if tearout is where it's at for you so be it. The deep sound the UK and in the EU books frequently has yet to even come into the masses mind, let alone venue people since they're so fixated on the mid-range you named to do just exactly that: cater to the masses. None of which I could even consider... this is getting too subjective, but I'll just say this: I have seen one of the guys you have mentioned and I stand by my claim regarding US dubstep production and events. Will that change in 2011? I look forward to it but I doubt it.

We're done here.

you're right, you did say "If losing your head to a bunch of jump-up for 2 hours is your thing, by all means". then you followed that by saying "but if you want to 'meditate on bass weight' there are options out there for those in the UK and other parts of Europe. Every where else is left buying tracks and doing it for themselves." which is a statement wrought by ignorance. that was my argument, which you have said nothing to adequately refute. open your ears in 2011. you might find something outside of your little bubble across the pond. and as far as events go? http://www.dbfestival.com/

we're done here.

I like most styles, however i think most people "hate on it" because some tunes get to the point where they just become literally unpleasant to listen to. like the screechiness of Sweet Shop and such related tunes make my ears hurt. its not a pleasant sound in any situation.

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Completely agree so I shouldn't be saying anything on here as its a waste of time but what gets on my tits slightly are the views that either its impossible to do a good "hype" tune or that all purist dubstep is boring which so many ppl posting on here or utube seem to have.

I say fairplay to any artist doing well whatever music they're writing as its fucking hard out there atm, anyone who takes notice of the waffle that goes on here needs their heads testing or let me put it this way: popular tune posted on here can get mabeye 10,000-30,000 views whilst popular tune on utube can get 5 million+ hits so what does that tell you about this forums real significance? The fact that tunes which get this many hits are mainly "hype" tunes is as much to do with "deep heads" burying their head in the sand when it comes to using utube channels as a resource for promotion as it is to do with the popularity of that kind of music. If people really want to support the cause they should be starting channels and posting the music they think deserves attention plus using every trick in the book to make their channel popular (that goes for any popular inet outlet not just utube) not wasting time moaning on here and giving hype tunes free "most hated" publicity which has gone a long way to getting many of those artists on the map.

a bit off topic, but rob, i just picked up Serenade on wax and fucking love it. big ups, man, prime example of a super versatile producer.

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I say fairplay to any artist doing well whatever music they're writing as its fucking hard out there atm.

Was kind of my point for starting said "waste" thread! Who cares what music is made, if you don’t like it fair enough but why the hate?

Speaking from a point where I like both (yes its possible...!) what I was frustrated with on here (it being the community for Dubstep and not a youtube advert) was the lynch mob affect we have! Its kind of embarrassing to see so many jump in and hate on it. Just reading the Skrillex post, its proper sad. I personally just dont post if i dont have anything good to say...Most of the time lol

On the Dub Head/Hype thing lol! Sadly I had to come up with something cos I'm just a dubsteppa, I like it all but apparently on here it isnt like that hence I had to split the camp to make a point...!

Its just an Internet forum. Some say a magnet of sorts. My only beef with this thread is that it polarizes a sound that has more than two styles and attempts to draw a line in the sand that really only exists on the inet. The dancefloor itself seems a lot more open minded so I usually ignore threads like these as they only reflect an attitude found online.

I follow dmz's example, and play, and dance to, all kinds of music... "deep" and "hype" just being a tiny sliver of what's out there.

skitz_0 wrote:a bit off topic, but rob, i just picked up Serenade on wax and fucking love it. big ups, man, prime example of a super versatile producer.

Thanx mate, wax on that one really improved the mix from the digital version which I gave away free on here - I think I got to 100 channels of sound (from 2 project files as computer was spazzing out) then balanced the mix and called it a day but mastering really sorted it out (bigup Shane @ Finyl Tweek for that! )

Well in my opinion Dub and hype are intertwined... especially since Rusko and Caspa - fabriclive 37. That had all the dub elements, heavy drops and hype party sound. I'm sure everyone on this forum will agree with me in saying that that album is dubstep and it's the shit.

You see real dubaholics just want cool songs...whether hype...bass..or both...You will know if you listen to it if the song is dope.

In my personal opinion skrillex is shit and any real dubba will agree with me. Dub Artists based in different parts of the world have a different sound...peronally I dig the croydon "Original Dub Kings" Dub However I also dig that screechy american shit.

For example: Listen to 'Skream - Dub Period' and then listen to 'Point.Blanck ft. Helicopter Showdown - Whistle Tips ' .

2 Totally different styles but You dig em' both cause they're just cool.

Dub Unite.