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dj2slo wrote:

blazey wrote:But lets be real though, not much has done to stop this shit from occuring really has it?

What do you expect when half of the scene [and this board] just stick their heads in the sand and don't address the problems. I'm tired of this "Be positive, you're not allowed to talk about how shit an artist is" and the political dick sucking going on by the veterans who have to ghost produce and promote for these major label puppets just to make some real money. If 14 year old's like something, then you better believe that major labels are gonna come in and buy out everyones soul, then repackage it with a pretty face over and over again until it's been tapped bone dry.

This x1000, I'm so sick of this 'don't be a hater' attitude people have that just lets massive amounts of bullshit slide

Maccaveli wrote:

dj2slo wrote:

blazey wrote:But lets be real though, not much has done to stop this shit from occuring really has it?

What do you expect when half of the scene [and this board] just stick their heads in the sand and don't address the problems. I'm tired of this "Be positive, you're not allowed to talk about how shit an artist is" and the political dick sucking going on by the veterans who have to ghost produce and promote for these major label puppets just to make some real money. If 14 year old's like something, then you better believe that major labels are gonna come in and buy out everyones soul, then repackage it with a pretty face over and over again until it's been tapped bone dry.

This x1000, I'm so sick of this 'don't be a hater' attitude people have that just lets massive amounts of bullshit slide

I feel is should address three points here:

- There is no rule against stating your dislike for certain artists or sounds, there's plenty of threads which do so. We do have a rule about pure hating ('he's shit' with no justification or just writing like a speng), we also have rules about talking, acting and posting like a dickhead, which isn't constructive and doesn't help anyone.

- If you genuinely believe a thread on even an entire forum on the internet was/is/can change the way the mainstream media or influx of producers bastardised the genre we know and love as Dubstep, you're kidding yourself.

- Open your fucking eyes. The mods here regularly push music we believe in, regularly post mixes containing what we and a lot of people consider to be actual dubstep, at least 3 of us run labels that have a direct aim to push the more involving interesting and deep sides of dubstep. We ask that everyone is treated with a bare minimum of respect. I know plenty of vets who push the sound they fell in love with still. The only ones with the heads in the sands are the people who bitch, whinge, piss and moan about it and yet do nothing but still listen to mixes and never go and support the nights or buy the tunes.

tbh I would love to know who is producing this stuff, especially the track used for that Weetabix advert, if anyone knows please let me know........I need moar dubz!! <3

pete bubonic wrote:I feel is should address three points here:

- There is no rule against stating your dislike for certain artists or sounds, there's plenty of threads which do so. We do have a rule about pure hating ('he's shit' with no justification or just writing like a speng), we also have rules about talking, acting and posting like a dickhead, which isn't constructive and doesn't help anyone.

- If you genuinely believe a thread on even an entire forum on the internet was/is/can change the way the mainstream media or influx of producers bastardised the genre we know and love as Dubstep, you're kidding yourself.

- Open your fucking eyes. The mods here regularly push music we believe in, regularly post mixes containing what we and a lot of people consider to be actual dubstep, at least 3 of us run labels that have a direct aim to push the more involving interesting and deep sides of dubstep. We ask that everyone is treated with a bare minimum of respect. I know plenty of vets who push the sound they fell in love with still. The only ones with the heads in the sands are the people who bitch, whinge, piss and moan about it and yet do nothing but still listen to mixes and never go and support the nights or buy the tunes.

couldn't have put it better

pete bubonic wrote:I feel is should address three points here:

- There is no rule against stating your dislike for certain artists or sounds, there's plenty of threads which do so. We do have a rule about pure hating ('he's shit' with no justification or just writing like a speng), we also have rules about talking, acting and posting like a dickhead, which isn't constructive and doesn't help anyone.

- If you genuinely believe a thread on even an entire forum on the internet was/is/can change the way the mainstream media or influx of producers bastardised the genre we know and love as Dubstep, you're kidding yourself.

- Open your fucking eyes. The mods here regularly push music we believe in, regularly post mixes containing what we and a lot of people consider to be actual dubstep, at least 3 of us run labels that have a direct aim to push the more involving interesting and deep sides of dubstep. We ask that everyone is treated with a bare minimum of respect. I know plenty of vets who push the sound they fell in love with still. The only ones with the heads in the sands are the people who bitch, whinge, piss and moan about it and yet do nothing but still listen to mixes and never go and support the nights or buy the tunes.

1. I've been locked for talking about an artist and the scene in general, but to be fair I was a little harsh a couple of times, and did repeat a topic once.

2. I never said it's all DSF's fault, I was just stating on the passive attitude of some members on the forum and from "the scene". It would be a little silly to think that an internet board could fend off million dollar corporations.

3. I totally agree with most of the mods, never singled you guys out, and the "vets" i'm speaking of are the ones getting releases on mau5trap/producing for shit pop artist not the real heads. Sorry though I don't share your view that we should treat an over hyped methhead like Skrillex with respect. I go to nights [when a good producer finds his way into my area], I buy tunes, I produce as a hobby, and I used to do mixes for online radio.

My intention was not to single out or criticize this board, just the individuals that I feel take a far too passive stance on the raping of the sound.. I generally agree with everything I see you post, Pete.
I can't help but think that if more heads took a more aggressive stance on what they do and do not support [i.e. Coki, James Blake], rather than just giving bullshit the free pass, it would help bring more people to the light. You can be nice and smile while a gang of rapist move into your neighborhood, and lower your property value or you can be an asshole til they GTFO, and still have a nice place to live. I remember when I could talk music with people without having to think twice about mentioning that I'm into Dubstep, as it now conjures images of try hard scene kids and mindless bros...

dj2slo wrote:

blazey wrote:But lets be real though, not much has done to stop this shit from occuring really has it?

What do you expect when half of the scene [and this board] just stick their heads in the sand and don't address the problems. I'm tired of this "Be positive, you're not allowed to talk about how shit an artist is" and the political dick sucking going on by the veterans who have to ghost produce and promote for these major label puppets just to make some real money. If 14 year old's like something, then you better believe that major labels are gonna come in and buy out everyones soul, then repackage it with a pretty face over and over again until it's been tapped bone dry.

This guy talks sense

oprs wrote:gave me goosebumps

R.L Stine would be proud.

Maccaveli wrote:

dj2slo wrote:

blazey wrote:But lets be real though, not much has done to stop this shit from occuring really has it?

What do you expect when half of the scene [and this board] just stick their heads in the sand and don't address the problems. I'm tired of this "Be positive, you're not allowed to talk about how shit an artist is" and the political dick sucking going on by the veterans who have to ghost produce and promote for these major label puppets just to make some real money. If 14 year old's like something, then you better believe that major labels are gonna come in and buy out everyones soul, then repackage it with a pretty face over and over again until it's been tapped bone dry.

This x1000, I'm so sick of this 'don't be a hater' attitude people have that just lets massive amounts of bullshit slide

Totally agree, and I have to say that Skream made his choice, he started making shite and supporting shite, of course it's up to him which road he takes, if he wants the cash, then good luck to him but people shouldn't forget why this music made it big in the first place, one because it WAS top drawer and two because people on the "fringe" or the "underground" or whatever you wanna call it, supported it. Can't blame them for turning against it when it loses its soul and goes mainstream, whatever it is that makes the mainstream cream for it is exactly why we hate it, because it's lowest common denominator, music for a mass audience. If the heros of dubstep old are getting grief then either take the money and take it on the chin or do something about it an put something out that we can be proud of. Saying that, Skream's paid his dues and full respect to him for that but he can't expect everyone to lose their taste in music just because he decides it's right, this is music, not politics and I reckon SKRILLEX is fucking shite, no arguments, nothing about, the sound is evolving, can't stand still forever etc, don't want it to stand still just wanna hear some good fucking tunes. End of rant.

rwafish druid wrote:

Maccaveli wrote:

dj2slo wrote:

blazey wrote:But lets be real though, not much has done to stop this shit from occuring really has it?

What do you expect when half of the scene [and this board] just stick their heads in the sand and don't address the problems. I'm tired of this "Be positive, you're not allowed to talk about how shit an artist is" and the political dick sucking going on by the veterans who have to ghost produce and promote for these major label puppets just to make some real money. If 14 year old's like something, then you better believe that major labels are gonna come in and buy out everyones soul, then repackage it with a pretty face over and over again until it's been tapped bone dry.

This x1000, I'm so sick of this 'don't be a hater' attitude people have that just lets massive amounts of bullshit slide

Totally agree, and I have to say that Skream made his choice, he started making shite and supporting shite, of course it's up to him which road he takes, if he wants the cash, then good luck to him but people shouldn't forget why this music made it big in the first place, one because it WAS top drawer and two because people on the "fringe" or the "underground" or whatever you wanna call it, supported it. Can't blame them for turning against it when it loses its soul and goes mainstream, whatever it is that makes the mainstream cream for it is exactly why we hate it, because it's lowest common denominator, music for a mass audience. If the heros of dubstep old are getting grief then either take the money and take it on the chin or do something about it an put something out that we can be proud of. Saying that, Skream's paid his dues and full respect to him for that but he can't expect everyone to lose their taste in music just because he decides it's right, this is music, not politics and I reckon SKRILLEX is fucking shite, no arguments, nothing about, the sound is evolving, can't stand still forever etc, don't want it to stand still just wanna hear some good fucking tunes. End of rant.

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Returning to the subject of this tune, I actuallly find it way more listenable than that recent Skream + Sam Frank tune... #justsayin ops:

pete bubonic wrote:I feel is should address three points here:

- There is no rule against stating your dislike for certain artists or sounds, there's plenty of threads which do so. We do have a rule about pure hating ('he's shit' with no justification or just writing like a speng), we also have rules about talking, acting and posting like a dickhead, which isn't constructive and doesn't help anyone.

- If you genuinely believe a thread on even an entire forum on the internet was/is/can change the way the mainstream media or influx of producers bastardised the genre we know and love as Dubstep, you're kidding yourself.

- Open your fucking eyes. The mods here regularly push music we believe in, regularly post mixes containing what we and a lot of people consider to be actual dubstep, at least 3 of us run labels that have a direct aim to push the more involving interesting and deep sides of dubstep. We ask that everyone is treated with a bare minimum of respect. I know plenty of vets who push the sound they fell in love with still. The only ones with the heads in the sands are the people who bitch, whinge, piss and moan about it and yet do nothing but still listen to mixes and never go and support the nights or buy the tunes.

Fair enough

dj2slo wrote:

rwafish druid wrote:

Maccaveli wrote:

dj2slo wrote:

blazey wrote:But lets be real though, not much has done to stop this shit from occuring really has it?

What do you expect when half of the scene [and this board] just stick their heads in the sand and don't address the problems. I'm tired of this "Be positive, you're not allowed to talk about how shit an artist is" and the political dick sucking going on by the veterans who have to ghost produce and promote for these major label puppets just to make some real money. If 14 year old's like something, then you better believe that major labels are gonna come in and buy out everyones soul, then repackage it with a pretty face over and over again until it's been tapped bone dry.

This x1000, I'm so sick of this 'don't be a hater' attitude people have that just lets massive amounts of bullshit slide

Totally agree, and I have to say that Skream made his choice, he started making shite and supporting shite, of course it's up to him which road he takes, if he wants the cash, then good luck to him but people shouldn't forget why this music made it big in the first place, one because it WAS top drawer and two because people on the "fringe" or the "underground" or whatever you wanna call it, supported it. Can't blame them for turning against it when it loses its soul and goes mainstream, whatever it is that makes the mainstream cream for it is exactly why we hate it, because it's lowest common denominator, music for a mass audience. If the heros of dubstep old are getting grief then either take the money and take it on the chin or do something about it an put something out that we can be proud of. Saying that, Skream's paid his dues and full respect to him for that but he can't expect everyone to lose their taste in music just because he decides it's right, this is music, not politics and I reckon SKRILLEX is fucking shite, no arguments, nothing about, the sound is evolving, can't stand still forever etc, don't want it to stand still just wanna hear some good fucking tunes. End of rant.

Word

I think its pretty hypocritical of Skream to completely slate this after supporting and ranting about Skrillex so much. All this supporting everybody and backing all styles of the music, then go talk shit about this. I don't think hes sold out though, i think he does it on purpose as a "fuck you haters i can do what the fuck i like" sort of statement. Like playing Skrillex tunes live and ending sets with Rage Against The Machine. I love Rage, i saw them at their free gig and went to Download which they headlined the same year... but theres a fucking time and a place. Fair enough as a one off but i saw Skream play 3 times last year and he finished with it all 3 times so i'd hate to know how often he was doing that.

Rodigan probably loves a bit of death metal in the privacy of his own home but he'll never play it live, because hes a fucking Reggae DJ.

OH, and to the guy who made some snap judgement about people not going out or not buying tunes, I've got one thing to say, it comes to something when I still carry a Blipstream 12 and Bury Da Bwoy in my record box YEARS after they were released. No, I'm not buying dubstep tunes much anymore cos I'm not into throwing my cash in the toilet. Blawan, Sully Shanks, Dark Sky, Synkro, Untold... these guys are getting my cash these days...have a nice day.

dub <333333333

rwafish druid wrote:OH, and to the guy who made some snap judgement about people not going out or not buying tunes, I've got one thing to say, it comes to something when I still carry a Blipstream 12 and Bury Da Bwoy in my record box YEARS after they were released. No, I'm not buying dubstep tunes much anymore cos I'm not into throwing my cash in the toilet. Blawan, Sully Shanks, Dark Sky, Synkro, Untold... these guys are getting my cash these days...have a nice day.

can i be you when i grow up?

Muncey wrote: I think its pretty hypocritical of Skream to completely slate this after supporting and ranting about Skrillex so much. All this supporting everybody and backing all styles of the music, then go talk shit about this. I don't think hes sold out though, i think he does it on purpose as a "fuck you haters i can do what the fuck i like" sort of statement. Like playing Skrillex tunes live and ending sets with Rage Against The Machine. I love Rage, i saw them at their free gig and went to Download which they headlined the same year... but theres a fucking time and a place. Fair enough as a one off but i saw Skream play 3 times last year and he finished with it all 3 times so i'd hate to know how often he was doing that.

Rodigan probably loves a bit of death metal in the privacy of his own home but he'll never play it live, because hes a fucking Reggae DJ.

+1

wanka needs to get on the remix asap

ultraspatial wrote:wanka needs to get on the remix asap