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Etches828 wrote:On another note in and around the metal field. I'd well be interested to hear Trent Reznor's take on a 140 sound, that guy is a fucking G

Luckily nothing to do with the black hole that is nu metal. The only band that pulled off anything good in that genre were SOAD and that was more because they sounded a bit like a metal Zappa. Trent is a boss though and he's still on point now. I really liked The Social Network soundtrack. And tracks like The Perfect Drug and The Day the World Went Away show that he can incorporate jungle and shoegaze influences successfully. Question is, has he heard any dubstep other than the bro stuff?

Trent should definitely lock into Youngsta's show or something.

leyenda303 wrote: Luckily nothing to do with the black hole that is nu metal. The only band that pulled off anything good in that genre were SOAD and that was more because they sounded a bit like a metal Zappa.

What about Deftones?

ultraspatial wrote:

leyenda303 wrote: Luckily nothing to do with the black hole that is nu metal. The only band that pulled off anything good in that genre were SOAD and that was more because they sounded a bit like a metal Zappa.

What about Deftones?

Just listened to Back in School for the first time in years and I've gotta be honest I'm just not feeling it anymore. I've heard people claim Tool are nu metal and they are good but to these ears they are firmly in the Prog Metal camp. More in common with The Mars Volta than Linkin Park.

leyenda303 wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:

leyenda303 wrote: Luckily nothing to do with the black hole that is nu metal. The only band that pulled off anything good in that genre were SOAD and that was more because they sounded a bit like a metal Zappa.

What about Deftones?

Just listened to Back in School for the first time in years and I've gotta be honest I'm just not feeling it anymore. I've heard people claim Tool are nu metal and they are good but to these ears they are firmly in the Prog Metal camp. More in common with The Mars Volta than Linkin Park.

Back to school is pretty weak, yeah, but then you have tracks like Lhabia or Be quiet and drive.

leyenda303 wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:

leyenda303 wrote: Luckily nothing to do with the black hole that is nu metal. The only band that pulled off anything good in that genre were SOAD and that was more because they sounded a bit like a metal Zappa.

What about Deftones?

Just listened to Back in School for the first time in years and I've gotta be honest I'm just not feeling it anymore. I've heard people claim Tool are nu metal and they are good but to these ears they are firmly in the Prog Metal camp. More in common with The Mars Volta than Linkin Park.

id love to hear the mars volta take on bass music...

Nevalo wrote:id love to hear the mars volta take on bass music...

I love TMV/Deloused. That is all.

The first Spineshank album had decent industrial elements but that's the only really good electronic influences I've ever heard in metal...

Mind you, Slipknot's DJ Starscream is actually a pretty good jungle DJ and producer.. the intro to one of the tracks on their first album has a really cool (if very short) jungle intro and I wouldn't mind finding out what it is if someone knows it

test recordings wrote:The first Spineshank album had decent industrial elements but that's the only really good electronic influences I've ever heard in metal...

Mind you, Slipknot's DJ Starscream is actually a pretty good jungle DJ and producer.. the intro to one of the tracks on their first album has a really cool (if very short) jungle intro and I wouldn't mind finding out what it is if someone knows it

tune's called eyeless

ultraspatial wrote:

leyenda303 wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:

leyenda303 wrote: Luckily nothing to do with the black hole that is nu metal. The only band that pulled off anything good in that genre were SOAD and that was more because they sounded a bit like a metal Zappa.

What about Deftones?

Just listened to Back in School for the first time in years and I've gotta be honest I'm just not feeling it anymore. I've heard people claim Tool are nu metal and they are good but to these ears they are firmly in the Prog Metal camp. More in common with The Mars Volta than Linkin Park.

Back to school is pretty weak, yeah, but then you have tracks like Lhabia or Be quiet and drive.

yeah back to school is the worst thing they've done... pretty much everything else they've released is fucking excellent

Nevalo wrote:

leyenda303 wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:

leyenda303 wrote: Luckily nothing to do with the black hole that is nu metal. The only band that pulled off anything good in that genre were SOAD and that was more because they sounded a bit like a metal Zappa.

What about Deftones?

Just listened to Back in School for the first time in years and I've gotta be honest I'm just not feeling it anymore. I've heard people claim Tool are nu metal and they are good but to these ears they are firmly in the Prog Metal camp. More in common with The Mars Volta than Linkin Park.

id love to hear the mars volta take on bass music...

they had a dub/reggae influenced project called de facto

test recordings wrote:The first Spineshank album had decent industrial elements but that's the only really good electronic influences I've ever heard in metal...

Godflesh, Jesu, Scorn, God (and other JK Broadrick and Kevin Martin related projects), Asbestoscape, Genghis Tron. Not no mention stuff like NIN. Not exactly metal but later era Refused started having some more electronic elements in their music. Bring Me the Horizon have some electronic parts here and there, specially on Suicide Season. Then there's Drumcorps and the stuff pushed by the 3by3 and Abstractions camps (Cloaks, Dead Fader, Oyaarss, Ekaros).

ultraspatial wrote:

test recordings wrote:The first Spineshank album had decent industrial elements but that's the only really good electronic influences I've ever heard in metal...

Godflesh, Jesu, Scorn, God (and other JK Broadrick and Kevin Martin related projects), Asbestoscape, Genghis Tron. Not no mention stuff like NIN. Not exactly metal but later era Refused started having some more electronic elements in their music. Bring Me the Horizon have some electronic parts here and there, specially on Suicide Season. Then there's Drumcorps and the stuff pushed by the 3by3 and Abstractions camps (Cloaks, Dead Fader, Oyaarss, Ekaros).

Nice, cheers Plenty to get me teeth in to there

I forgot Smashing Pumpkins also went a bit techno over the course of their original existence too

particle-jim wrote:

test recordings wrote:The first Spineshank album had decent industrial elements but that's the only really good electronic influences I've ever heard in metal...

Mind you, Slipknot's DJ Starscream is actually a pretty good jungle DJ and producer.. the intro to one of the tracks on their first album has a really cool (if very short) jungle intro and I wouldn't mind finding out what it is if someone knows it

tune's called eyeless

Cheers, I forgot I had the album with it on I did mean the jungle tune anyway but the album insert says "all music performed and recorded by Slipknot" so I reckon it's a Starscream special

Nevalo wrote:

leyenda303 wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:

leyenda303 wrote: Luckily nothing to do with the black hole that is nu metal. The only band that pulled off anything good in that genre were SOAD and that was more because they sounded a bit like a metal Zappa.

What about Deftones?

Just listened to Back in School for the first time in years and I've gotta be honest I'm just not feeling it anymore. I've heard people claim Tool are nu metal and they are good but to these ears they are firmly in the Prog Metal camp. More in common with The Mars Volta than Linkin Park.

id love to hear the mars volta take on bass music...

The Mars Volta had Goth-Trad support them in Japan, so I'm fairly sure at least one of them is clued up about dubstep. They've already done a dub project (De Facto) which was sick.

edit: didn't see the De Facto mention further up the page. Big up.

Amantus wrote:

Nevalo wrote:

leyenda303 wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:

leyenda303 wrote: Luckily nothing to do with the black hole that is nu metal. The only band that pulled off anything good in that genre were SOAD and that was more because they sounded a bit like a metal Zappa.

What about Deftones?

Just listened to Back in School for the first time in years and I've gotta be honest I'm just not feeling it anymore. I've heard people claim Tool are nu metal and they are good but to these ears they are firmly in the Prog Metal camp. More in common with The Mars Volta than Linkin Park.

id love to hear the mars volta take on bass music...

The Mars Volta had Goth-Trad support them in Japan, so I'm fairly sure at least one of them is clued up about dubstep. They've already done a dub project (De Facto) which was sick.

Goth-Trad's first 2 albums were pretty much industrial noise with some electronic parts, so... it depends on when they toured Japan.

ultraspatial wrote:Godflesh, Jesu, Scorn, God (and other JK Broadrick and Kevin Martin related projects)

I've still never heard any Kevin Martin stuff before The Bug except for Techno Animal. Can't get enough of The Dream Forger off Ghosts, even if that's a bit of an anomaly. Which alias/group that he is involved with would you recommend next?

genghis tron was definitely part of my first foray into heavy electronica and a step back from my teen years of death metal. still have their albums in my itunes and listen to them from time to time. recommended for sure

@particle jim: that video made my fuckin day

leyenda303 wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:Godflesh, Jesu, Scorn, God (and other JK Broadrick and Kevin Martin related projects)

I've still never heard any Kevin Martin stuff before The Bug except for Techno Animal. Can't get enough of The Dream Forger off Ghosts, even if that's a bit of an anomaly. Which alias/group that he is involved with would you recommend next?

Have you listened to the The Bug album from '97? More hiphop kind of thing, collab with DJ Vadim if I'm not mistaking.
God - Martin's first project I think. Industrial metal with freejazz parts. My favourites are Possesion, The Anatomy of Addiction and Appeal To Human Greed. I'd suggest this first.
With Ice he started going into more of a hiphop direction, kinda like Techno Animal with The Brotherhood of the Bomb.
And there's Curse of the Golden Vampire which is more of a breakcore/noise kind of thing.

Sputnikmusic strongly criticized the album giving it a score of 0.5/5 stating that "The Path Of Totality is a truly horrible album, built on a foundation of tired and overwrought stereotypes put together not by just a clueless band, but a bunch of equally confused artists who truly have no proper understanding of the genre they claim to be a part of".

lol.

spire wrote:

Sputnikmusic strongly criticized the album giving it a score of 0.5/5 stating that "The Path Of Totality is a truly horrible album, built on a foundation of tired and overwrought stereotypes put together not by just a clueless band, but a bunch of equally confused artists who truly have no proper understanding of the genre they claim to be a part of".[/quote]

lol.

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