Amendment 64 for Colorado passed (weed possession)

[knell]

what were WA's previous DUIC laws? i know the <21 limits are new but what was the protocol before i502?

[fractal]

you had to take one of the physical tests, i did so in ocean shores two years ago. walked the line, said the abc's backwards, touched my nose while on one leg. easy stuff. I was really high too

[knell]

let's hope that remains the "de facto" test, and that they only use the blood test for accidents and those egregiously over the top "420 blaze it" freeway speeders riding solo in the HOV lane

[nowaysj]

International as a mother fuck:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the ... _world_pop

By William Booth, Published: November 8

MEXICO CITY — The decision by voters in Colorado and Washington state to legalize the recreational use of marijuana has left Mexican President-elect Enrique Peña Nieto and his team scrambling to reformulate their anti-drug strategies in light of what one senior aide said was a referendum that “changes the rules of the game.”

It is too early to know what Mexico’s response to the successful ballot measures will be, but a top aide said Peña Nieto and members of his incoming administration will discuss the issue with President Obama and congressional leaders in Washington this month. The legalization votes, however, are expected to spark a broad debate in Mexico about the direction and costs of the U.S.-backed drug war here.



Mexico spends billions of dollars each year confronting violent trafficking organizations that threaten the security of the country but whose main market is the United States, the largest consumer of drugs in the world.

With Washington’s urging and support, Mexican soldiers roam the mountains burning clandestine plantations filled with marijuana destined for the United States. Mexico’s police and military last year seized almost as much marijuana as did U.S. agents working the Southwest border region.

About 60,000 Mexicans have been killed in drug-related violence, and tens of thousands have been arrested and incarcerated. The drug violence and the state response to narcotics trafficking and organized crime have consumed the administration of outgoing President Felipe Calderon.

“The legalization of marijuana forces us to think very hard about our strategy to combat criminal organizations, mainly because the largest consumer in the world has liberalized its laws,” said Manlio Fabio Beltrones, leader of Peña Nieto’s party in Mexico’s Congress.

Peña Nieto’s top adviser, Luis Videgaray, said Thursday that his boss did not believe that legalization was the answer. But Videgaray said Mexico’s drug strategies must be reviewed in light of the legalization votes.

“Obviously, we can’t handle a product that is illegal in Mexico, trying to stop its transfer to the United States, when in the United States, at least in part of the United States, it now has a different status,” Videgaray told a radio station Wednesday.

Videgaray added that legalization “changes the rules of the game in the relationship with the United States” in regards to anti-drug efforts.

“I think more and more Mexicans will respond in a similar fashion, as we ask ourselves why are Mexican troops up in the mountains of Sinaloa and Guerrero and Durango looking for marijuana, and why are we searching for tunnels, patrolling the borders, when once this product reaches Colorado it becomes legal,” said Jorge Castañe­da, a former foreign minister of Mexico and an advocate for ending what he calls an “absurd war.”

Peña Nieto has pledged to work closely with the U.S. government against powerful transnational crime organizations when he takes office next month. But he has stressed that his main goal is not to confront smugglers but to reduce the sensational violence and rampant crime — such as extortion, kidnapping and theft — that have soared in Mexico during Calderon’s six years in office.


Jonathan Caulkins, an expert on the drug trade and a professor at Carnegie Mellon University, said the beginning of marijuana legalization in the United States could allow Peña Nieto to resist U.S. pressure to maintain a hard line against smuggling groups.

Advocates for marijuana legalization in the United States and Mexico have often argued that ending the prohibition on pot would deny Mexican traffickers a key source of revenue. Analysts generally agree that about half of all the marijuana consumed in the United States comes from Mexico.

If all marijuana consumers in Colorado and Washington state buy the drug legally, then revenue to Mexican drug cartels would probably decrease. But not by much.

U.S. experts who produced a landmark Rand Corp. study in 2010 when California voters were considering the legalization of recreational marijuana use (the measure did not pass) concluded that Mexican cartels earn no more than $2 billion moving marijuana across the Southwest border and that the groups derive 15 to 26 percent of their revenue from marijuana sales.

The study authors estimated that legal marijuana use in California, a state that consumes about one-seventh of all the pot smoked in the United States, would cost the cartels 2 to 4 percent of their revenue. So losing consumers in states such as Washington and Colorado that have a smaller population might not affect the cartel bottom line by much.

U.S. government estimates of drug cartel profits, however, are much higher.

“Marijuana is an important part of their business, but not the most important. Most people agree it’s about 20 percent of their revenues, and so two small U.S. states legalizing marijuana won’t really impact their market share very much,” said Eric Olson, associate director of the Mexico Institute at the Wilson Center in Washington.

But Olson said the incoming Mexican president will be watching closely.

“There is a sense of frustration throughout Latin America about the steep costs of confronting drug trafficking. And these votes in the United States, and the reaction to them, might signal a willingness for the countries to think outside of the box on drug policy.”

Whether the loss of some marijuana revenue will reduce killings in Mexico is even more uncertain, as much of the worst violence is attributed to crime rings that have branched out from drug smuggling to human trafficking, extortion, kidnapping, oil theft and DVD piracy.

[fractal]

maaaaaaan, i can tell you, with all confidence, that we don't smoke any mexican herbs up here in washington. I know about that ish too, i'm a southern gent. people don't know what schwag is up here

[Jhonny2x4]

maaaaaaan, i can tell you, with all confidence, that we don't smoke any mexican herbs up here in washington. I know about that ish too, i'm a southern gent. people don't know what schwag is up here

....really? Your guy's butts are that pampered? We have AMAZING weed here and we still know that (originally) $5 gets you a blunt of schwagg.

*Granted, once you get out of high school, it's a steep decline in schwagg usage till it's extinguished.

[deadly_habit]

Man i hated when I lived in Texas, that shitty mexican brick weed *shudders*
Got spoiled living in NY and getting good shit.

[fractal]

maaaaaaan, i can tell you, with all confidence, that we don't smoke any mexican herbs up here in washington. I know about that ish too, i'm a southern gent. people don't know what schwag is up here

....really? Your guy's butts are that pampered? We have AMAZING weed here and we still know that (originally) $5 gets you a blunt of schwagg.

*Granted, once you get out of high school, it's a steep decline in schwagg usage till it's extinguished.

it's just not lucrative to move that horrible weed up here when the market is so saturated with dank.


thank you for your concern concerning my anus

[Jhonny2x4]

maaaaaaan, i can tell you, with all confidence, that we don't smoke any mexican herbs up here in washington. I know about that ish too, i'm a southern gent. people don't know what schwag is up here

....really? Your guy's butts are that pampered? We have AMAZING weed here and we still know that (originally) $5 gets you a blunt of schwagg.

*Granted, once you get out of high school, it's a steep decline in schwagg usage till it's extinguished.

it's just not lucrative to move that horrible weed up here when the market is so saturated with dank.


thank you for your concern concerning my anus

Just looking out for the community

[knell]

was reading this faq on the SPD's blog... looks like mmj is untouched in the eyes of the law, and they have to have a warrant to draw blood from you foe DUIC testing (unless you give them permission or are in an accident), so that's a little more sane than i anticipated. maybe i-502 isn't so bad, but again that's only the SPD so it might differ outside of Seattle.

[fractal]

was reading this faq on the SPD's blog... looks like mmj is untouched in the eyes of the law, and they have to have a warrant to draw blood from you foe DUIC testing (unless you give them permission or are in an accident), so that's a little more sane than i anticipated. maybe i-502 isn't so bad, but again that's only the SPD so it might differ outside of Seattle.

thanks for that read, it's calmed me a bit! i wonder how much of this fear was pushed by dispensaries for fear of loosing their "monopoly"?

one of my good buddies just got a state license to grow and has asked me to be on the board....

[nowaysj]

Federal conspiracy charges...

[Electric_Head]

one of my good buddies just got a state license to grow and has asked me to be on the board....

I would be so happy if I could make a living growing.
I mean legal living.

[alphacat]

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=260914

[knell]

repost... i'd link you but it's on the same page

[Mammoth]

Stocked up before the taxes take place

[nowaysj]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/ ... 1620121210

Colorado students accused of sickening class with pot-laced brownies


(Reuters) - Two University of Colorado at Boulder students are accused of bringing marijuana-laced brownies to a college class, sickening their unsuspecting professor and five classmates, police said on Sunday.

Thomas Cunningham, 21, and Mary Essa, 19, were arrested Saturday on suspicion of second-degree assault, fraudulently inducing the consumption of a controlled substance and conspiracy charges, university police spokesman Ryan Huff said.

Huff said three of those who ate the brownies were hospitalized, suffering from the effects of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the active property in marijuana.

"If someone views this as a prank, it's no laughing matter," Huff told Reuters. "These (charges) are all felonies which carry potential prison time."

According to Huff, police were summoned to a classroom building Friday morning on a report that a female professor was complaining of dizziness and was drifting in and out of consciousness. The instructor, who was not identified, was transported to a hospital.

Later Friday, the mother of a student in the class notified police that her daughter also was hospitalized after suffering "an anxiety attack."

The family of a third student also notified police that their daughter felt like she was going to black out after attending the class, and that they took her to a hospital.

All three have since been released from the hospital.

Huff said the students brought the brownies to class as part of a "bring food to class" day, and those who ate the brownies were unaware that they were laced with pot. Five students and the instructor fell ill after eating the brownies, police said.

Investigators questioned the instructor and 11 of the 12 students who attended the class and determined that Cunningham and Essa baked the brownies and served them to the unsuspecting class, Huff said. Both remain in the Boulder County jail pending a bond hearing.

Last month, Colorado voters approved the recreational use and possession of small amounts of marijuana.

In response to the legalization vote, University of Colorado president Bruce Benson sent a message to college alumni last week, saying that marijuana remains illegal under federal law, and its use on the university's campuses could jeopardize research grant money.

"Marijuana threatens to cost the university nearly a billion dollars annually in federal revenue, money we can ill afford to lose," Benson said.


Media war begins to regain lost territory?

Side note: noticed a lot of gun violence stories in the news, like major uptick, think we will see a push in us for changes to the gun laws at the federal level?

[mks]

Media war begins to regain lost territory?

Side note: noticed a lot of gun violence stories in the news, like major uptick, think we will see a push in us for changes to the gun laws at the federal level?

Already happening within days.

Would this make national news if it was some other robbery, like a car or something?

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nati ... 8410.story

Two suspected robbers believed to be targeting an alleged home-based marijuana growing operation were killed in a shootout on the first day of legal marijuana in Washington state, authorities said.

The 35-year-old homeowner told detectives he shot the masked intruders Thursday after they broke into his home near Puyallup, Pierce County Sheriff spokesman Ed Troyer said, according Komonews.com. Troyer told the news outlet that the masked men most likely sought to grab the pot and maybe cash.

The Associated Press reported the secluded, luxury home had a security system, a private driveway and that the homeowner had motorcycles, boats and nice cars.

The homeowner and his 9-year-old son were not hurt. The homeowner, whose name was not released, was detained, at least pertaining to an illegal growing operation, Troyer told the wire service. He has since been released.

The marijuana at the home was of large quantity, much more than one would need for medicinal use, Troyer said.

The shooting occurred on the first day of legal marijuana in the state. The law, which voters approved in November, allows those 21 and older to possess an ounce or less of pot.

Backers of the initiative hope the law puts an end to the black market marijuana industry, such as the alleged growing operation where the shooting took place.

At the moment, it is still illegal to buy, sell or grow marijuana. The state’s liquor control board is now tasked with drafting a framework for licensing growers, handlers and retailers.

[nowaysj]

best dismay emoticon I could come up with.

[Electric_Head]

This has made me want to go home and make some butter for the holidays.