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wub wrote:

RKM wrote:i heard a pretty deep story about him though, that the reason alex reece pretty much disappeared is cos he signed a deal with a new label, then when he asked goldie for money for releases like pulp fiction he beat the crap out of him then completely blackballed him from the scene...obviously this is something i read on youtube comments so v dubious but still,..harsh

probably bullshit. reece continuead to release stuff til like 2001-2002. and new stuff from him surfaced a few years ago
plenty of old dnb guys that "disappeared"

where did dj hazard go


MACHETE

cloaked_up wrote:where did dj hazard go


MACHETE

Great Wikipedia page that man has.

DJ Hazard can be usually found on the last Friday of every month, at the FabricLive Playaz night at Fabric, Farringdon, London.

Like he's a fucking woodland animal or something.

hhahahahahahahahahahhahaha

very interesting wub and a valuable copy paste
i juts feel he hasn't reached the pure rave of machete since the glory days of jump up

cloaked_up wrote:very interesting wub and a valuable copy paste
i juts feel he hasn't reached the pure rave of machete since the glory days of jump up

Who wouldn't want to be in that venereal disease ridden soup for that moment when the tune was dropped.

i was jst about to post that
:scared:

wub wrote: venereal disease ridden soup

in tears

wub wrote:

cloaked_up wrote:very interesting wub and a valuable copy paste
i juts feel he hasn't reached the pure rave of machete since the glory days of jump up

Who wouldn't want to be in that venereal disease ridden soup for that moment when the tune was dropped.

Best Rave Of My Life

yet standing here filming it

yeah i mean i guess maybe they meant more that nobody would play his tunes/couldn't get bookings but i was like 5 at the time and this is v much something i read on the internet

yeah that bit in terminator where the drums seem to get higher and thinner faaack

real talk you guys think goldie works out crazy amounts or is just one of those naturally cut dudes

she's not really good at djing!
just saying.

It wasn't Goldie who threw someone down some stairs it was Bailey.

He has people for that aswell.


It's silly thinking Goldies input in the creation process isn't very important, you can hear his work comming from the same spot despite who's on the buttons.
Both Timbaland, Puffy, Kanye, Bowie, Bjørk and Dre have been known to do similar.
I think the distinction is that Goldien is so obviously add and dependant on feeling/vibing that he just admitted it straight up and moved on to do something interesting the next minute and then people took that as a basis to critisize him because he's weird.

He has the most insane upbringing. Were even a graffwriter in the golden age shooting wildstyle in the states. M8s with Fat joe etc

Tbf, all I'm questioning is whether or not it came out that a much smaller name wasn't actually on the buttons, would they get the same leeway names like Goldie, Dre, etc. get?

I was responding to a general notion that says goldie is not very capable.

But could you refrase that, something is confusing me with the wording ?

I mean it's always completely unfair to not get credit for work. But out of a lot of examples, Goldie doesn't seem to me to be one that doesn't influence the proceedings. and people tend to forget that everybody within dnb are backstabbing pricks when talking about goldie.

Tbf distribution ting, a tune with Goldie on it would be handed to different people than one with four tet on it back then.

tbh i would never work the buttons for anyone not even Stevie if he lost his hands

hubb wrote:But could you refrase that, something is confusing me with the wording ?

Sorry dude. I'm just on about the general feeling that it's OK that Goldie didn't produce Timeless, because he's a legend or whatever.

But were it to come out that a much smaller name did it, would people be cool with finding out that they didn't produce something with their name on it?

Can't remember fully how it went down when everyone on here found out that Icicle made Youngsta's tunes, but remember a few people thinking it was a bit of a cop out.

lol yh if it was compa gettign tracks ghost produced oh shiiiit

Any of you heard of hannah wants? apparently she gets all her tracks ghost produced by chris lorenzo

Yeah smaller dudes would get 'killed' in the context of a scene, doing that.
But that's it, a scene progress by having rules that change all the time and if people didn't get how, in this case Goldie, expanded the scene even to the extent where you can now be a composer instead of a producer, well then they've misunderstood how big it got.
Dnb was actually top 40 which is insane.
I think David Bowie actually made dnb like that on Earthling btw, I mean just talking to someone.


But yeah scene mechanics, fuck them. Scenes turn shit at the 5 minute mark lol.

But imo not releasing anonymously and giving all the proceedings to female children is a cop out to me

wub wrote:
The stairs thing, that one is true. Someone bootlegged a Goldie tune, Goldie found out, Goldie caught up with the bloke and threw him down the stairs at Plan B during a Metalheadz night.

What a bastard! I'm sure he and his label mates paid for all their breaks and samples...

garethom wrote:Tbf, all I'm questioning is whether or not it came out that a much smaller name wasn't actually on the buttons, would they get the same leeway names like Goldie, Dre, etc. get?

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