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Thanks for posting, I was almost at 4 in a row, dangerously close to BM levels

wub wrote:

nobody wrote:I didn't think people on here actually fell for that 'Trayvon was just an innocent baby' rubbish on the news

Phigure's comments suggested that he did to an extent (to me, at least)

there's a large spectrum between "innocent baby" and the even more ridiculous picture of some sort of scarface-like 17 year old that nowaysj is describing. he was a teenager, no one is innocent at that age. who doesnt do some drugs when theyre a teenager? by that logic im a scumbag who deserves to die too. but theres no real evidence that he "was a thug, likely was dealing, used hard narcotics, fought for pleasure, and used, bought, and or sold illegal firearms." baseless accusations like that are pretty much the definition of character assassination

froobs brings up a really good point about how despite this scrutiny on trayvon, zimmerman's own violent past is completely ignored and instead he's painted as some sort of model citizen, hero of the neighborhood watch

nowaysj wrote:Trayvon while on top of Zimmerman struck Zimmerman in the nose hard enough to open a wound on the exterior of the nose, as well as smashed Zimmerman's head into the concrete hard enough to open wounds on the back of Zimmerman's head. That is a credible threat.

one of the medical examiners during the case said it was most likely that those wounds were self inflicted, especially the one on his nose

even if they weren't, they could have just as likely come from trayvon defending himself when he felt threatened by zimmerman. as a proponent of the right to self-defense, surely that right should go both ways

nobody wrote:

jags wrote: i'd think if you got hit in a nerve, muscle, or tendon,

How could you get shot and not get hit in one of those places?

exactly my point.

nowaysj wrote:To confirm, though, it is your belief that the officer did not receive an injury during the attack by MB?

not necessarily. I have suspicions but reserve belief until all of the facts are released. However, the cops' propaganda tactics have been pretty consistent. I think that if he had any significant injury, the police would have made sure everyone knew about it immediately.

Phigure, there were pics of him posing with illegally acquired pistols like some sort of rapper wannabe, not the kind of person I want on the streets tbh! Only horrid people illegally buy guns like that. That neighbourhood is a safer place now.

LOL that has got to be a joke ^

There is ample evidence of Trayvon's criminal activity. You just choose to ignore it. Trayvon, in his own words, described it publicly on Facebook. You can read it if you like, it is easily available.

And now you are suggesting the person that was physically assaulted by Trayvon faked his injuries. The lengths you'll go to to sustain your fantasy are extreme.

The fact that Trayvon was doing those things I mentioned doesn't mean he should be executed, like some execution squad should go hunt him down because of his dealing and drug use, but it does suggest (in reality, if you ever choose to approach it) a pattern of behavior, a type of person who was on a direct course towards some type of horrible outcome.

The fact of the matter is you were shown pictures of a 12 year black old kid, told he was a good little boy, and that a racially profiling white man shot him for no reason. Absolutely none of that is correct. It is all a lie, and you persist in believing it. And when confronted with facts you've chosen to ignore, namely the injuries sustained by Zimmerman when attacked by Trayvon, you blame the victim and suggest that he injured himself. I'm really at a loss. I hope you come out of this.

Is all of this just because you look like George Zimmerman NWJ?

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jags wrote:LOL that has got to be a joke ^

If you don't mind me asking, where do you live?

jags wrote:Is all of this just because you look like George Zimmerman NWJ?

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I'm white!

nowaysj wrote:

jags wrote:Is all of this just because you look like George Zimmerman NWJ?

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I'm white!

Give up mate, you're arguing with someone who said their main source of news is Young Turks a few pages back (because they have no corporate interest or something lel)

easy nobody

Dude it was a joke, hence the face. People were saying that NWJ looks like GZ one time.

My main source of news is television news shows but I do also watch young turks sometimes, and they are not influence by corporations because they aren't owned by the big news corporations (Time Warner, News Corp, etc).

The way you phrased this just sounded like a joke nobody. It seemed like you were being sarcastic:

nobody wrote:Phigure, there were pics of him posing with illegally acquired pistols like some sort of rapper wannabe, not the kind of person I want on the streets tbh! Only horrid people illegally buy guns like that. That neighbourhood is a safer place now.

Apologies if this has already been posted, but a quite a few journalists are being arrested and then released without charge.

https://pressfreedomfoundation.org/blog ... s-ferguson

Phigure wrote:froobs brings up a really good point about how despite this scrutiny on trayvon, zimmerman's own violent past is completely ignored and instead he's painted as some sort of model citizen, hero of the neighborhood watch

lol and even after i post all of that stuff about zimmermans past, it is still point blank ignored and swept under the rug

touche froobs you win this round you little tyke

Phigure wrote:

nowaysj wrote:Trayvon while on top of Zimmerman struck Zimmerman in the nose hard enough to open a wound on the exterior of the nose, as well as smashed Zimmerman's head into the concrete hard enough to open wounds on the back of Zimmerman's head. That is a credible threat.

one of the medical examiners during the case said it was most likely that those wounds were self inflicted, especially the one on his nose

yeah

nobody wrote:

jags wrote:If you're shot in the leg you're gonna be limping at best

Maybe 2-3 minutes after, or if you got shot straight through your knee cap (unlikely).

Don't underestimate adrenaline

^ maybe this

I was rock climbing and i fell and proper smashed up my foot, nasty break on the top of my foot + tendon damage. it hurt liuke fuck at the tiem and i was limping but after a 10 minute sit down i got up and climbed the problem i fell off, while i had a broken foot, and could walk around okay. an hour later or so it hurt pretty fucking bad and completely impossible to walk.

actually, saying that, there was no way i could walk as soon as i broke my foot, had to chill for 10 minutes before i could put any pressure on at all. im sure being shot hurts a bit more than breaking your foot

anyway fuckign enough about zimmerman

derailing a thread about a civil rights movement

bennyfroobs wrote:lol and even after i post all of that stuff about zimmermans past, it is still point blank ignored and swept under the rug

touche froobs you win this round you little tyke

You sly fox. Someone said something more interesting after you, and when I woke up I responded to that, and hoped that someone else would respond.

And again, you've posted something more interesting. I'mma quote box the post you just made.

bennyfroobs wrote:

YES! This is the real point. And don't think it is going to stop at tear gas, as well. The full armament will be rolled out. Just like it has been in other urban centers around the world. Babies are going to sizzle to the bone with white phosphorus. I could post up some pics of a baby the police blew up with a flash grenade the other day, serving a no-knock warrant for a street level one hit deal of meth, but it is too ugly. Police just denied responsibility for it, and would not cover the baby's extensive medical bills, spent and extended period in the burn ward. Again, no national movement, the DOJ didn't roll in and coach protesters. Bus loads of protesters weren't shipped in.

bennyfroobs wrote:

This is bullshit as far as I'm concerned. The police can kill white people without repercussion. As I've mentioned, we're here talking about a black dude that was killed, while a white dude was killed under very similar circumstances two days later, and not a peep from the media, or the snh. The police are mowing down white people all the time, no DOJ teams coming to coach protesters, no media blitz 24 hour coverage, no international spotlight.

I'm glad that this incident shines a spotlight on the police's use of deadly force, but careful, because this may have been, and from what I've seen, was a justified shooting, this is going to, in the end, reinforce the use of deadly force by the police. MB is a poor victim to base a civil rights movement on, he may have committed a strong arm felony moments before and may crushed the eye socket of the police officer before he was shot. And as a portion of the community riots and further destroys the physical community, the police's use of military force and tactics is going to be justified as well. This whole scenario is a loss for black people, and Americans in general. Things will get worse because of this, not better.

AND WHAT really burns me, is, it is black people that are taking black lives without repercussion. It is so disproportionate, and no one is talking about it. Just look into Chicago, this year has been insane. The number of black people that have been shot by black people is just... it is out of control. A white police officer shoots a felonious black dude and the world stops. Why the disparity of treatment? How about the hundreds, is it thousands yet? of black kids that have been shot in just Chicago? Who cares about them? The black community? The media, the DOJ, please.

bennyfroobs wrote:

The tinder has been set, the play is unfolding. The police will get more guns, more tanks, the people will have less right to assemble, the media will have less right to document the use of military force on American streets. I've been talking about this mounting for years on the snh, and some of you stnuc (I mean that in the kindest of way) post that picture of deadly habit and his cat with a tin foil hat. And it hasn't even gotten serious yet. There is a financial collapse waiting in the wings that may be timed with an international war that may be timed with a seriously deadly viral outbreak. A domestic race war would just be the cherry on top of that shit sunday.

nowaysj wrote: Just look into Chicago, this year has been insane. The number of black people that have been shot by black people is just... it is out of control. A white police officer shoots a felonious black dude and the world stops. Why the disparity of treatment? How about the hundreds, is it thousands yet? of black kids that have been shot in just Chicago? Who cares about them? The black community? The media, the DOJ, please.

dont have time to reply to all ur big post atm but yeah man that shit is CRAZY... the violence is insane. chicago is a shit hole tho though right? i guess those people dont really have many opportunities and stuff

have u ever seen boyz n the hood? theres a bit when ice cubes character is talking about this, and a bit where (morpheus from the matrix guy)'s character is talking about it too; the american government not giving a shit about any violence in the hood

man that film must be like 15/20 years old now

Chicago's not a 'shit hole', just parts of it. You're probably thinking of Detroit lol.

chicago has a lot of problems

chicago has been gang country since at least the 1920's

chicago is one of the most racially segregated cities in the nation

but the percentage of black on black crime nationwide is similar percentage to white on white crime according tothe bureau of justice statistics


all that being said, the national guard needs to be put in chicago

thoughts?