its my setupdubstepz wrote:Micron is a nice synth man.. don't diss his set up
and its a decent budget synth, would rather have a virus ti and juno alpha instead though
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I feel like I've gotta agree with dubstepz here. this is a production forum, what is it here for if we are not talking about production. He was more curious about talking about our unique individual techniques for bass, more than any specific question. You dont have to be a newbie to want to discuss your own personal take on a established production trick. Anyway, moving on.
Getting a solid low end while having a top end sound with lots of movement is best handled using two synth for the different components layer. my favorite is using one saw osc from my ms20 with the lowpass completely down for the low end. it it nice and warm and really fills in the lower end of the spectrum. Instead of using a compressor, I like to use a brickwall limiter here, getting the sub close to the headroom limit of your track. Then I use something else, sometimes a soft synth sometimes another hardware synth to add the midrange and high end. One of my favorite tricks is setting up a detuner or chorus plugin followed by distortion and another filter on a send for the high end. Controlling and automating the amount you send to it will give lots of control over the character of the sound. I usually dont buss all the elements together to compress since I like the top end to have its full dynamic range, especially if you are using reverb or delay on it. My favorite plugins for this effect are audio damage's kombinant and discord 2. They sound great, are very flexible and are cheap as hell. I highly recommend them.
Lets keep this a production forum guys, please. This is the most active dubstep forum i know of and it would be a shame if talented people stopped coming here to talk about their techniques and pose interesting questions. Even if a question has been asked before, the conversation could take an interesting turn and you might wind up learning something that you didnt know before. And if it doesnt, well, thats fine too. It's not like anyone is forcing you to read a thread that you have no interest in. Just live and let live.
Getting a solid low end while having a top end sound with lots of movement is best handled using two synth for the different components layer. my favorite is using one saw osc from my ms20 with the lowpass completely down for the low end. it it nice and warm and really fills in the lower end of the spectrum. Instead of using a compressor, I like to use a brickwall limiter here, getting the sub close to the headroom limit of your track. Then I use something else, sometimes a soft synth sometimes another hardware synth to add the midrange and high end. One of my favorite tricks is setting up a detuner or chorus plugin followed by distortion and another filter on a send for the high end. Controlling and automating the amount you send to it will give lots of control over the character of the sound. I usually dont buss all the elements together to compress since I like the top end to have its full dynamic range, especially if you are using reverb or delay on it. My favorite plugins for this effect are audio damage's kombinant and discord 2. They sound great, are very flexible and are cheap as hell. I highly recommend them.
Lets keep this a production forum guys, please. This is the most active dubstep forum i know of and it would be a shame if talented people stopped coming here to talk about their techniques and pose interesting questions. Even if a question has been asked before, the conversation could take an interesting turn and you might wind up learning something that you didnt know before. And if it doesnt, well, thats fine too. It's not like anyone is forcing you to read a thread that you have no interest in. Just live and let live.
nicely putKnobGoblin wrote:
Lets keep this a production forum guys, please. This is the most active dubstep forum i know of and it would be a shame if talented people stopped coming here to talk about their techniques and pose interesting questions. Even if a question has been asked before, the conversation could take an interesting turn and you might wind up learning something that you didnt know before. And if it doesnt, well, thats fine too. It's not like anyone is forcing you to read a thread that you have no interest in. Just live and let live.
KnobGoblin wrote:this is a production forum, what is it here for if we are not talking about production.
That's interesting. Adding a brick wall on the sub does a nice job. I like to run it into psp vintage and put the drive right up to give it some analogue type (subtle) distortion.KnobGoblin wrote:Getting a solid low end while having a top end sound with lots of movement is best handled using two synth for the different components layer. my favorite is using one saw osc from my ms20 with the lowpass completely down for the low end. it it nice and warm and really fills in the lower end of the spectrum. Instead of using a compressor, I like to use a brickwall limiter here, getting the sub close to the headroom limit of your track. Then I use something else, sometimes a soft synth sometimes another hardware synth to add the midrange and high end. One of my favorite tricks is setting up a detuner or chorus plugin followed by distortion and another filter on a send for the high end. Controlling and automating the amount you send to it will give lots of control over the character of the sound. I usually dont buss all the elements together to compress since I like the top end to have its full dynamic range, especially if you are using reverb or delay on it. My favorite plugins for this effect are audio damage's kombinant and discord 2. They sound great, are very flexible and are cheap as hell. I highly recommend them.
I have not checked audio damage yet... i'll go check them out.
Thanks for the reply man
Must admit...
I do like messing around rewiring reason into cubase, making a nice bass on the malstrom and putting it though some nice effects, I recently bought Guitar Rig and its absolute DIRT to put bass through.
Think the key is to find a technique you like and process.. least for me! Like I got some free virtual amp/cab plugin months back and just wacked everything through it.. All about that dirt, gritty sound. Hence why I saved up and got guitar rig and use the FX on that, I ain't even bothered loading up the vsti part of it yet haha.
Took me months to learn how to do wobble so I never made wobble tunes when i started producing, now 2/3 years down the line I find myself making the odd wobbler when I am at a creative block, nothing like wacking out a quick, experimenting tune and sometimes they turn out good!
So I guess my bass tip is... Go for the sound you like and experiment, even my subs I like them really gritty and saturated (although people might say this is shite) some people like reallly clean stuff and that. so find out what you like, get to a position where you're happy with what you're producing and then boom... do something totally different! Don't try and do what Mr X is doing, be Mr X so people wanna copy you
I do like messing around rewiring reason into cubase, making a nice bass on the malstrom and putting it though some nice effects, I recently bought Guitar Rig and its absolute DIRT to put bass through.
Think the key is to find a technique you like and process.. least for me! Like I got some free virtual amp/cab plugin months back and just wacked everything through it.. All about that dirt, gritty sound. Hence why I saved up and got guitar rig and use the FX on that, I ain't even bothered loading up the vsti part of it yet haha.
Took me months to learn how to do wobble so I never made wobble tunes when i started producing, now 2/3 years down the line I find myself making the odd wobbler when I am at a creative block, nothing like wacking out a quick, experimenting tune and sometimes they turn out good!
So I guess my bass tip is... Go for the sound you like and experiment, even my subs I like them really gritty and saturated (although people might say this is shite) some people like reallly clean stuff and that. so find out what you like, get to a position where you're happy with what you're producing and then boom... do something totally different! Don't try and do what Mr X is doing, be Mr X so people wanna copy you
SoundcloudSoulstep wrote: My point is i just wanna hear more vibes
I think I need to clarify what im asking because it is now bundled in with a load of shit.Legendary wrote:Must admit...
I do like messing around rewiring reason into cubase, making a nice bass on the malstrom and putting it though some nice effects, I recently bought Guitar Rig and its absolute DIRT to put bass through.
Think the key is to find a technique you like and process.. least for me! Like I got some free virtual amp/cab plugin months back and just wacked everything through it.. All about that dirt, gritty sound. Hence why I saved up and got guitar rig and use the FX on that, I ain't even bothered loading up the vsti part of it yet haha.
Took me months to learn how to do wobble so I never made wobble tunes when i started producing, now 2/3 years down the line I find myself making the odd wobbler when I am at a creative block, nothing like wacking out a quick, experimenting tune and sometimes they turn out good!
So I guess my bass tip is... Go for the sound you like and experiment, even my subs I like them really gritty and saturated (although people might say this is shite) some people like reallly clean stuff and that. so find out what you like, get to a position where you're happy with what you're producing and then boom... do something totally different! Don't try and do what Mr X is doing, be Mr X so people wanna copy you
I am not searching for a magical bass technique, trying to imitate anything I don't know how to create or even ask for tip's
I am curious to lean the workflow people go through with bass (resampling, frequency management and distribution
, and any other techniques/workflow you regularly use). Is this really a topic that you don't want to discuss/learn from?
People with little production knowledge seem to jump on every thread saying ''LFO to Filter' ''Sample a hoover'' when this just demonstrates the fact that they are totally unaware of what you do after making the sound in your synth.
I never heard of dog's on acid until somebody posted a link.. much more... well.... content.
Yeh Legendary... it's all about being unique man.
There is so much room for that in dubstep, which is why it's so great.
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I was just saying what I do with my bass? hahaha.
Mate been on this forum for couple of years now - production has always been the same.After all its a community filled with random people..Theres gunna be some new people, some arrogant people some nice people .. etc, etc. Pointing fingers and saying "DON'T ABUSE THEM" ain't gunna change anything, its like when you go to the store with a kid, they'll always want a chocolate and if you tell them no, they'll just be persistent till they embarrass you enough so you give up, not saying what you've got people discussing is bad but don't dictate or at least try and make a discussion a certain way!
Not having a go or nothing but ... can't make a topic go one way in a place what has a lot of people speaking their minds...
Yeah I might of gone off topic like a few people with my previous post but surely I was just speaking my mind to what the topic was about? I ain't reading 7 odd pages, i read the first post, maybe the 2nd then the last 2.. then write a reply..
EDIT: I'm not saying my production knowledge is high enough, I know how to get what I want out of the synths I can comfortable with and I am confident in my producing, I do it for the love of it not to boast or anything, I share the little knowledge I have with a few people and have grown good networking friendships from this place, its a great place to read and post because its laid back....Don't make it uptight. Don't usually talk my mind like this on this forum but jeez the arrogance in that last post of yours, sorry if it wasn't it intended but I could smell it.
Mate been on this forum for couple of years now - production has always been the same.After all its a community filled with random people..Theres gunna be some new people, some arrogant people some nice people .. etc, etc. Pointing fingers and saying "DON'T ABUSE THEM" ain't gunna change anything, its like when you go to the store with a kid, they'll always want a chocolate and if you tell them no, they'll just be persistent till they embarrass you enough so you give up, not saying what you've got people discussing is bad but don't dictate or at least try and make a discussion a certain way!
Not having a go or nothing but ... can't make a topic go one way in a place what has a lot of people speaking their minds...
Yeah I might of gone off topic like a few people with my previous post but surely I was just speaking my mind to what the topic was about? I ain't reading 7 odd pages, i read the first post, maybe the 2nd then the last 2.. then write a reply..
EDIT: I'm not saying my production knowledge is high enough, I know how to get what I want out of the synths I can comfortable with and I am confident in my producing, I do it for the love of it not to boast or anything, I share the little knowledge I have with a few people and have grown good networking friendships from this place, its a great place to read and post because its laid back....Don't make it uptight. Don't usually talk my mind like this on this forum but jeez the arrogance in that last post of yours, sorry if it wasn't it intended but I could smell it.
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SoundcloudSoulstep wrote: My point is i just wanna hear more vibes
I was just trying to keep the thread on topic.
Not having a moan about what you said.... at all.
You know what... this may be a personal question that people are not happy discussin as it gives away how they get their sound.
That's fair enough I spose
EDIT: By quoting you I was not intending to direct my reply to you
Not having a moan about what you said.... at all.
You know what... this may be a personal question that people are not happy discussin as it gives away how they get their sound.
That's fair enough I spose
EDIT: By quoting you I was not intending to direct my reply to you
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I tend to use the Scream 4 Distortion device in Reason a lot.
I start by testing out the Tube & Tape settings, either as an insert effect or as a send, then I generally add extra distortion using overdrive or waveshaping.
If I resample a bass, I often pop it through a notch filter and some more distortion.
Sometimes I add a really tight reverb to give the bass a certain feel, other times, I simply rely on filtering or EQ to shape my bass.
It really depends on the source material, and what kind of bass I'm making. Some kinds of bass accept different levels of processing before they start to sound shit. The hoover for example, cannot be over distorted as eventually it sounds like audio concrete. Hard abbrassive and generally unpleasant!
On the other hand, an 808 kick drum or pure sinewave almost always benefits from either tape saturation or overdrive/clipping!
I'm not a fan of chorussing effects on my bass, so generally, my basses are dry of effects save for distortion & compression.
I start by testing out the Tube & Tape settings, either as an insert effect or as a send, then I generally add extra distortion using overdrive or waveshaping.
If I resample a bass, I often pop it through a notch filter and some more distortion.
Sometimes I add a really tight reverb to give the bass a certain feel, other times, I simply rely on filtering or EQ to shape my bass.
It really depends on the source material, and what kind of bass I'm making. Some kinds of bass accept different levels of processing before they start to sound shit. The hoover for example, cannot be over distorted as eventually it sounds like audio concrete. Hard abbrassive and generally unpleasant!
On the other hand, an 808 kick drum or pure sinewave almost always benefits from either tape saturation or overdrive/clipping!
I'm not a fan of chorussing effects on my bass, so generally, my basses are dry of effects save for distortion & compression.
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Re: BASS
amen to thatsystm_bypass wrote:1. Turn off your internet connectionDub Alliance wrote:im guessin this has been asked loads but i just cant get that nice dark wobbly bass down!
any tips or links would be gr8!
i use logic and a whole bunch of native instruments!
safe!!
2. Open your music applications, load up Albino, Massive, Pro-52 or whatever and sit infront or it for every waking moment and learn 'what does what'.
3. Profit
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