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me love to swim in the ketamine ocean and listen to naaaarsty dubstep, stenchman, 2muchket... i mean come onnnnnn!!! and who the fuck cares at least people on ket are peaceful, its not about the upperz with dubstep!

steshine wrote:this is possibly one of the biggest problems in my opinion. Loefah talks about music being written to please people who are on ketamin.... i think he's talking about people like Caspa, Jakes, and other jump-up-esque artists. Not a good look

Bwahaha, You're a jackass sir.

stevetwors wrote:

Padstoner wrote: but my basic point is that if it comes from the ground its probably sound.

cocaine comes from the ground (coca plant). heroin comes from the ground (poppy flower).

still want to use that rule?

Yes very true, but im sure if you ate coca leaves and poppy seeds other than relieving altitude sickness and providin a tasty addition to a sandwich not much would happen.. heroin and cocaine dont come from the ground, their basic ingredients do.

ashtray heart wrote:

Padstoner wrote:This debate could get laboured forever, but my basic point is that if it comes from the ground its probably sound. Whereas if it's the bastardisation of a pharmaceutical drug used to dope the fuck out of horses, its probably not. Peace x

It's an anaesthetic that's used on babies, children and old people. Its one of the safest anaesthetics ever invented.

That doesn't necessarily make it one of the safest recreational drugs though. And a lot of people seem to be taking exception to my lil quote. Fair enough, I just thought it was a decent way to sum up my weed - generally ok, harder shit - generally not ok views. Plus it rhymes. Doesn't mean I sat down, took every plant-based drug in to consideration and came up with it as a flawed ethos. It was just something my dad told me and I like the ring to it. Besides the two drugs that immediately spring to mind would be weed and possibly shrooms, so i didn't see the need to delve a little deeper. People aren't exactly gonna be doing Khat at a rave.

it all depends on your personality and the reaction your body has to it. so there's no point one person saying its all about the booze and weed, when the next person is saying ket is the best. personally i love them all, but loads of my mates just cant deal with some drugs simply because they just don't agree with them and what they do they're bodies/personalities

Deadly Habit wrote:yeah an established producer/dj opinion on drugs! if it influeneces your personal opinion from what it was already because he's in the scne your a tool.

Absolutely.

Padstoner wrote:

ashtray heart wrote:

Padstoner wrote:This debate could get laboured forever, but my basic point is that if it comes from the ground its probably sound. Whereas if it's the bastardisation of a pharmaceutical drug used to dope the fuck out of horses, its probably not. Peace x

It's an anaesthetic that's used on babies, children and old people. Its one of the safest anaesthetics ever invented.

That doesn't necessarily make it one of the safest recreational drugs though.

No drug is safe. Inhaling smoke into your lungs isn't safe.
The most unsafe thing about k is the situations you will find yourself in after doing it out and about - not the drug itself. Thats so safe they give it to babies and tiny kittens.
The worst drug imo is probably alcohol tho. A truly shit drug... habit-forming, tolerance building, a depressant, painkilling, lowers inhibitions.... lethal, legal and cheap. What a crap combination.

ashtray heart wrote:

Padstoner wrote:

ashtray heart wrote:

Padstoner wrote:This debate could get laboured forever, but my basic point is that if it comes from the ground its probably sound. Whereas if it's the bastardisation of a pharmaceutical drug used to dope the fuck out of horses, its probably not. Peace x

It's an anaesthetic that's used on babies, children and old people. Its one of the safest anaesthetics ever invented.

That doesn't necessarily make it one of the safest recreational drugs though.

The worst drug imo is probably alcohol tho. A truly shit drug... habit-forming, tolerance building, a depressant, painkilling, lowers inhibitions.... lethal, legal and cheap. What a crap combination.

I completely and utterly 100% agree. I've always been of the opinion that if alcohol were introduced today as an illegal drug it would be Class A. Despite all the adverse effects of illegal drugs, I've never seen anyone that's K'd, Stoned, Loved-up or whatever kicking seven shades of shit out of someone else in a city centre over a complete triviality.

Personally, I can't think of much worse than accidentally taking Ketamine when I was expecting lovely MDMA, but get this.... everyone has different tastes! How are people getting so worked up about what drugs other people are taking?

Never do gear that you don't really need

Padstoner wrote:I've never seen anyone that's K'd, Stoned, Loved-up or whatever kicking seven shades of shit out of someone else in a city centre over a complete triviality.

i think this is only really true for weed, ket, mdma/entheogens, psychotropics like lsd/dmt etc. crack, coke, pcp, heroin etc are all worse than booze, particularly for some of them the way they can make people act during withdrawal on top of when people are under the influence. for example heroin ticks all these boxes except for 'legal':

ashtray heart wrote:habit-forming, tolerance building, a depressant, painkilling, lowers inhibitions.... lethal, legal and cheap. What a crap combination.

Padstoner wrote:

ashtray heart wrote:

Padstoner wrote:

ashtray heart wrote:

Padstoner wrote:This debate could get laboured forever, but my basic point is that if it comes from the ground its probably sound. Whereas if it's the bastardisation of a pharmaceutical drug used to dope the fuck out of horses, its probably not. Peace x

It's an anaesthetic that's used on babies, children and old people. Its one of the safest anaesthetics ever invented.

That doesn't necessarily make it one of the safest recreational drugs though.

The worst drug imo is probably alcohol tho. A truly shit drug... habit-forming, tolerance building, a depressant, painkilling, lowers inhibitions.... lethal, legal and cheap. What a crap combination.

I completely and utterly 100% agree. I've always been of the opinion that if alcohol were introduced today as an illegal drug it would be Class A. Despite all the adverse effects of illegal drugs, I've never seen anyone that's K'd, Stoned, Loved-up or whatever kicking seven shades of shit out of someone else in a city centre over a complete triviality.

This x1,000,000,000,000,000

I have always thought alcohol is fucking bad and i just hate how people are on it and that's mainly why i don't drink but instead i do the other stuff that is in this thread and have never had any problems.

Asa wrote:

Hakka wrote:Mephedrone FTW

EPIC FAIL OF THE HIGHEST DEGREE.

This T-shirt may be of interest to some people in this thread....

http://www.myspace.com/kahnbristol -

Whats the need for stuff like that tho? why do u care what ppl do.

Padstoner wrote:

stevetwors wrote:

Padstoner wrote: but my basic point is that if it comes from the ground its probably sound.

cocaine comes from the ground (coca plant). heroin comes from the ground (poppy flower).

still want to use that rule?

Yes very true, but im sure if you ate coca leaves and poppy seeds other than relieving altitude sickness and providin a tasty addition to a sandwich not much would happen.. heroin and cocaine dont come from the ground, their basic ingredients do.

people have been chewing coca leaves since before written history. its effects are basically the same as snorting but much milder and takes longer to kick in. heroin from poppy flowers (not poppy seeds like on your sandwich) is pretty simple, you can take the resin and directly smoke it and you get completely bombed.

jduffy wrote:why is ket topic of the century anyways. not everyone is as sad as you lot and wants to hear about this shit all the time. its been around for years and even back then no one cared for it it's only this new generation of 15 year old homophobe. who think its cool to take drugs who do.

stop wasting your time with this topic plz.

Good lord..using a forum to DISCUSS? What is the world coming to..

k isnt that dirt. I'd only call it dirty when your doing it on your own in the piss stained burger king toilets. doing a line here and there is fineee. any drug where you can go to the 9th dimension and in an hours time be fine for a family dinner, with no bad comedown, is good in my books.

smokeit wrote:any drug where you can go to the 9th dimension and in an hours time be fine for a family dinner, with no bad comedown, is good in my books.

that be the truth