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Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Post by jyro » Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:55 am

I'm trying to figure out a way to route audio out of ableton through a pedal rig and back into ableton to a recoding track. For example a bass line ran through a guitar pedal. I don't own a particularly felxible sound card (it's the line6 toneport ux2). Suggestions very much appreciated!

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Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Post by paradigm_x » Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:10 pm

olyko12 wrote:I have another question. :p How would you go about getting reverse reverb? The only way I can think of is recording a midi clip and then reversing the audio sample and putting reverb on it then record and reverse again, but I'm not even sure how to do that. Help would be much appreciated. :)
a quick alternative is to use a convolution reverb which allows you to reverse the impulse; sir does this, prob more.

http://www.knufinke.de/sir/

Theres a free and a paid version. Ive got the one in cubase but dunno if it will do reverse.

Also great fun for chucking random wavs in as impulses, pads and spoken word work well.

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Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Post by The Riot Act » Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:55 pm

How do you guys like to do an accurate frequency split (low, mid and high) in Ableton Live?
Or do you use a 3rd party plugin to do it?

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Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Post by Ascian » Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:02 pm

The Riot Act wrote:How do you guys like to do an accurate frequency split (low, mid and high) in Ableton Live?
Or do you use a 3rd party plugin to do it?
This is how I do it.. You can download the presets I made in the description

Using Auto Filter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHMCsZqwA5c

Using Multiband Dynamics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtNT44GFA7c

To prove they are accurate frequency splits, duplicate the original signal channel and reverse the phase using Utility plug.. The sound will disappear meaning it is an exact copy
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Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Post by The Riot Act » Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:28 pm

Ascian wrote:
The Riot Act wrote:How do you guys like to do an accurate frequency split (low, mid and high) in Ableton Live?
Or do you use a 3rd party plugin to do it?
This is how I do it.. You can download the presets I made in the description

Using Auto Filter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHMCsZqwA5c

Using Multiband Dynamics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtNT44GFA7c

To prove they are accurate frequency splits, duplicate the original signal channel and reverse the phase using Utility plug.. The sound will disappear meaning it is an exact copy
Cheers dude, I will have to try them later on.

I started on you're tutorials instead and they are awesome! Ableton and Massive are my 2 main things to use.
I have been using Impulse this whole time but now think I will have to make the switch to a drum rack because of the whole chaining and send/return thing.
Impulse VS Drum Rack what is you're opinion?

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Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Post by The Riot Act » Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:16 pm

Just tried them out then and they work awesome. Definitely gonna be using the auto filter ones from now on :4:

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Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Post by symmetricalsounds » Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:07 am

The Riot Act wrote: Impulse VS Drum Rack what is you're opinion?
you know you can drop an impulse rack into a drum rack. my drum rack has several impulses in there and is kinda based on the drumpulse rack but i've extended it for my needs.

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Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Post by mks » Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:16 pm

symmetricalsounds wrote:
The Riot Act wrote: Impulse VS Drum Rack what is you're opinion?
you know you can drop an impulse rack into a drum rack. my drum rack has several impulses in there and is kinda based on the drumpulse rack but i've extended it for my needs.
I have not done this. Please tell me what the advantages are?

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Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Post by symmetricalsounds » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:28 am

well some of the cool things in impulse like the stretch function can be useful to have, plus i've got it setup so one square of a drum rack is an inpulse rack but got a radomiser before the rack which means any of the 7 impulse hits can be triggered randomly so then have the slight differences between hits so gets a more varied drum sound and cuts out lots of the work. that means an impulse rack for kicks/snares/hats etc... but then i'll also have straight hits in the drum rack too cos sometimes you don't want any surprises. the great thing is all those things can work together in the drum rack, you could drop another drum rack into a drum rack if say you've got a premade rack of hats, you could drop a synth into one of the drum rack squares and use that for one of the hits.

link to the original drumpulse video that i got the idea from http://blog.dubspot.com/drumpulse/

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Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Post by jyro » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:40 am

jyro wrote:I'm trying to figure out a way to route audio out of ableton through a pedal rig and back into ableton to a recoding track. For example a bass line ran through a guitar pedal. I don't own a particularly felxible sound card (it's the line6 toneport ux2). Suggestions very much appreciated!
Anyone able to help with the above please?!

Also have another q....

does anyone know how to trigger in ableton? for example every time a kick is hit, it sets of a particular sample..

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Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Post by symmetricalsounds » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:45 am

jyro wrote:
jyro wrote:I'm trying to figure out a way to route audio out of ableton through a pedal rig and back into ableton to a recoding track. For example a bass line ran through a guitar pedal. I don't own a particularly felxible sound card (it's the line6 toneport ux2). Suggestions very much appreciated!
Anyone able to help with the above please?!
well you've only got one set out outs on your interface and one set of ins so you would have to pipe output through guitar pedal into the inputs on your interface, turn monitor off in the recording channel input in ableton and record it without hearing it but easy enough to get past by just knowing how much you want to record and using the meters. with the levels i'd go quieter rather than louder so you got room and don't clip on input.

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Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Post by symmetricalsounds » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:48 am

jyro wrote: does anyone know how to trigger in ableton? for example every time a kick is hit, it sets of a particular sample..
one way to acheieve this is just have the kick in a sampler and then have the other sample you want triggering in the same sampler both set to be triggered, if that's restricting you could use an instrument rack with two samplers in it.

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Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Post by mks » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:48 pm

symmetricalsounds wrote:well some of the cool things in impulse like the stretch function can be useful to have, plus i've got it setup so one square of a drum rack is an inpulse rack but got a radomiser before the rack which means any of the 7 impulse hits can be triggered randomly so then have the slight differences between hits so gets a more varied drum sound and cuts out lots of the work. that means an impulse rack for kicks/snares/hats etc... but then i'll also have straight hits in the drum rack too cos sometimes you don't want any surprises. the great thing is all those things can work together in the drum rack, you could drop another drum rack into a drum rack if say you've got a premade rack of hats, you could drop a synth into one of the drum rack squares and use that for one of the hits.

link to the original drumpulse video that i got the idea from http://blog.dubspot.com/drumpulse/
That vid's pretty cool. I will give this a try. I still have love for Impulse because I used it for years before Drum Racks came out and always thought it had some cool features. I still use it in fact along with Drum Racks because I have built so many kits with it. This looks like a cool way to combine them.

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Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Post by apoplexiamusic » Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:07 am

symmetricalsounds wrote:
jyro wrote:
jyro wrote:I'm trying to figure out a way to route audio out of ableton through a pedal rig and back into ableton to a recoding track. For example a bass line ran through a guitar pedal. I don't own a particularly felxible sound card (it's the line6 toneport ux2). Suggestions very much appreciated!
Anyone able to help with the above please?!
well you've only got one set out outs on your interface and one set of ins so you would have to pipe output through guitar pedal into the inputs on your interface, turn monitor off in the recording channel input in ableton and record it without hearing it but easy enough to get past by just knowing how much you want to record and using the meters. with the levels i'd go quieter rather than louder so you got room and don't clip on input.
well another way to do it, which seems kind of obvious but may not be (because of a soundcard with limited ins and outs) would be to use the Ableton External Effect device, which basically sends the sound to an effect unit plugged in a loop into your soundcard : output(s) from the card to your unit's input(s) and from the unit's output(s) back into the card's input(s). using the external effect you can also adjust the latency induced by the extra travel of audio so that it remains in sync with your project.

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Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Post by symmetricalsounds » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:40 pm

eh wouldn't he need two sets of outs to do that?

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Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Post by rexob » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:26 am

Anyone know why I can't hear any MIDI sounds? The headphone button is checked, and I can hear everything else fine.

(haven't got a fucking clue what I'm doing)

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Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Post by oWLinDaylight » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:10 pm

rexob wrote:Anyone know why I can't hear any MIDI sounds? The headphone button is checked, and I can hear everything else fine.

(haven't got a fucking clue what I'm doing)
How is the midi track set up? Like which instrument and is the midi coming from a midi clip or a midi signal
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Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Post by Airgonaut » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:12 pm

Have you clicked the primer/armer button to arm it? Go over to Session View, look for the track you're working with. At the bottom of that track there should be a little button that sort of looks like a clock, right under the "Solo" button. Click it, now if it's red you should be able to play and hear those notes. Hopefully. :P
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Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Post by rexob » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:05 pm

oWLinDaylight wrote:
rexob wrote:Anyone know why I can't hear any MIDI sounds? The headphone button is checked, and I can hear everything else fine.

(haven't got a fucking clue what I'm doing)
How is the midi track set up? Like which instrument and is the midi coming from a midi clip or a midi signal
It's a MIDI clip and I'm using Massive.

Airgonaut wrote:Have you clicked the primer/armer button to arm it? Go over to Session View, look for the track you're working with. At the bottom of that track there should be a little button that sort of looks like a clock, right under the "Solo" button. Click it, now if it's red you should be able to play and hear those notes. Hopefully. :P
Yeah, it's definitely checked. Strange.

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Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Post by symmetricalsounds » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:07 pm

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