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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:31 am
by ephyks
Method wrote:
ephyks wrote:Okay, I'm slowly starting to get this. I can hear some of the deep vowels coming from FM8, but I'm having a difficult time isolating it. I've read that the secondary modulation in FM creates the vowelly overtones.

So say I have the FM matrix in front of me. I route E into F. Then I route D into F. D is my secondary moduation, as I make that the high harmonic, put the waveform on 10th format, and turn the ratio up to 58-62. I then modulate E, which has a ratio of 1.5. I get a pretty generic "yeeeeuuuueeehhh" I then route C to D, and give C a ratio of 2. I now get "yeeeeeaaaaauuuuggggggghhhh".

Here's to demonstrate my problem.



I can't tell if I'm into something, or this is just an dead end. I can hear something back there, but it's so cluttered with high end noise. :corntard:

Everything is modulating everything too much, thats where the white noise comes from.

Take a look at this video to get a good basis for fm8 vowel growls:

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This will get you the vowel part, maybe not as much the growly part youre looking for but its a good start.
Aaaaah, I see. Was just messing with FM8 and got MUUCH cleaner sounds. Guess I really over thought that.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:38 am
by Method
Yeah i dont remember who said this but it resonated with me, some of the greatest sounds werent created through technical know-how genius, they often come about through experimentation and accident.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:30 am
by Divinity

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:46 pm
by smile
Divinity wrote:bam!
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I would advice slowing down your movement and have the vowel affect lower mids a little more

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:22 pm
by mthrfnk
some new things i messed with:
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(i realise the panning is a bit fucked.)

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:44 pm
by ephyks
I made a few patches from watching that Seamless video. Wrote some notes, added some automations, and ran it through a vocoder.

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Much better than before. :D

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:26 am
by somepony
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g81piJIbwuI
any idea? that growl sounds pretty badass

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:51 am
by Method
somepony wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g81piJIbwuI
any idea? that growl sounds pretty badass

Pretty much the KTN bass someone from Image-line figured out:

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Maybe a little less wet though.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:15 am
by IamDroid
Yeah ZachFlyod on the IL forums figured out the KTN patch, along with most of the xKore sounds you hear around this forum too.. He's made alot of good shit that kid.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:25 pm
by CYRHEN
Simple formula..Growl Synth, Distortion, EQ Modulation or Automation, and Saturation. Works everytime.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:47 pm
by mromgwtf
CYRHEN wrote:Simple formula..Growl Synth, Distortion, EQ Modulation or Automation, and Saturation. Works everytime.
More like a recipe. Plus I'd reccomend putting distortion after filtering.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:25 am
by ephyks
Really beginning to get FM!!!
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Somehow I always get a "deathstep" vibe. Really want a more groovy bassline, almost a brostep bassline. Can't really figure it out.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:19 am
by mthrfnk
Sounds quite cool, I really should put some time in to learning more FM stuff...

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:12 pm
by misk
yeah fm's where it's at. then i resample a few times thru plugins and throw it into kontakt or renoise, or both

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:05 pm
by PhotonOfficial
ephyks wrote:Really beginning to get FM!!!
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Somehow I always get a "deathstep" vibe. Really want a more groovy bassline, almost a brostep bassline. Can't really figure it out.
That is pretty good, do you mind sharing how you made it?

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:29 pm
by The Liberator
Hi, i'm new to the forums but I have been lurking on this thread for quite a while before actually signing up, I though I might share an attemp at growl synthesis using FM8. If you like this feel free to ask me how I made it and I will gladly explain. :D

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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:53 am
by somepony
The Liberator wrote:Hi, i'm new to the forums but I have been lurking on this thread for quite a while before actually signing up, I though I might share an attemp at growl synthesis using FM8. If you like this feel free to ask me how I made it and I will gladly explain. :D

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Wow nice job... really how did you do that O.O

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:49 am
by ephyks
PhotonOfficial wrote:
ephyks wrote:Really beginning to get FM!!!
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Somehow I always get a "deathstep" vibe. Really want a more groovy bassline, almost a brostep bassline. Can't really figure it out.
That is pretty good, do you mind sharing how you made it?

Yeah man. There's a lot of shit going on with it, mostly bass processing, but I'll make a video since I can't really put it down in words.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:11 am
by The Liberator
somepony wrote:
The Liberator wrote:Hi, i'm new to the forums but I have been lurking on this thread for quite a while before actually signing up, I though I might share an attemp at growl synthesis using FM8. If you like this feel free to ask me how I made it and I will gladly explain. :D

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Wow nice job... really how did you do that O.O
This image should explain it, btw it was mostly educated guesses when I programmed the FM Matrix in FM8. :? One last thing regarding the large amount of white noise in the growl; I am sure all said noise could be corrected but it would require messing with the FM Matrix a lot and might make the growl less intense if that makes any sense, my guess is something is feeding in to something too much and causing WAY too much distortion. :u:

Image tutorial;
http://i.imgur.com/VFkvsj8.jpg

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:25 am
by IamDroid
CYRHEN wrote:Simple formula..Growl Synth, Distortion, EQ Modulation or Automation, and Saturation. Works everytime.
Doesn't get easier