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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:58 pm
by Augment
Impresario wrote:Seems like a lot of people are starting to nail some nasty shet, well done lads. I only say that because I was browsing the first few pages earlier...most people are a lot better now!

I'm (slowly/noncommitialy/ragey) working on this, extremely bitey parts from 0:50
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Feedback on the whole thing or biteyness would be cool or whatever :6:

edit: embedded, whoops
The way it like transforms into a screechy sound around 1:02 I think is awsm, reminds me of Far Too Loud - 600 Years.
Care to explain how you did that? :D

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:03 pm
by Impresario
blinkesko wrote: The way it like transforms into a screechy sound around 1:02 I think is awsm, reminds me of Far Too Loud - 600 Years.
Care to explain how you did that? :D
Thats the exact song I was trying to copy :6: Oli Cash is a beast! I watched his Production Techniques vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oSIuekl03A ...he doens't go through that exact bassline, but wasn't hard though, just made a duplicate of the growl I already had and changed one of the Massive filters to a scream, automated the scream and resonance to draw it out (the key is finding the right harmonic for the resonance so it still sounds in key) and automated a reverb to get wetter as it drew out. Try it out or PM me if you want things :Q:

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:18 am
by mromgwtf
Impresario wrote:
blinkesko wrote: The way it like transforms into a screechy sound around 1:02 I think is awsm, reminds me of Far Too Loud - 600 Years.
Care to explain how you did that? :D
Thats the exact song I was trying to copy :6: Oli Cash is a beast! I watched his Production Techniques vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oSIuekl03A ...he doens't go through that exact bassline, but wasn't hard though, just made a duplicate of the growl I already had and changed one of the Massive filters to a scream, automated the scream and resonance to draw it out (the key is finding the right harmonic for the resonance so it still sounds in key) and automated a reverb to get wetter as it drew out. Try it out or PM me if you want things :Q:
He's using comb filter on that one, check that out.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:27 pm
by The Liberator
Here is another growl by me, this time I used talkwah on FM8 and a new matrix, tried to copy part of the SMaNS drop. :6:

IMO this sounds pretty bad.

Feel free to ask how I did this. I will take screencaps.

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BTW the order of vowels in the talkwah seems to be I,E,A,O,U which makes sense because that is in order of highest formant center to lowest.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:20 pm
by counterparty
The Liberator wrote:Here is another growl by me, this time I used talkwah on FM8 and a new matrix, tried to copy part of the SMaNS drop. :6:

IMO this sounds pretty bad.

Feel free to ask how I did this. I will take screencaps.

Soundcloud

BTW the order of vowels in the talkwah seems to be I,E,A,O,U which makes sense because that is in order of highest formant center to lowest.
I disagree, this sounds badass! :h:

I'd love if you could paste screenshots... will definitely be trying to emulate what you did there

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:45 am
by sunny_b_uk
The Liberator wrote:Here is another growl by me, this time I used talkwah on FM8 and a new matrix, tried to copy part of the SMaNS drop. :6:

IMO this sounds pretty bad.

Feel free to ask how I did this. I will take screencaps.

Soundcloud

BTW the order of vowels in the talkwah seems to be I,E,A,O,U which makes sense because that is in order of highest formant center to lowest.
i disagree too, don't be hard on yourself its good :mrgreen:

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:44 am
by The Liberator
udubstep wrote:
The Liberator wrote:Here is another growl by me, this time I used talkwah on FM8 and a new matrix, tried to copy part of the SMaNS drop. :6:

IMO this sounds pretty bad.

Feel free to ask how I did this. I will take screencaps.

Soundcloud

BTW the order of vowels in the talkwah seems to be I,E,A,O,U which makes sense because that is in order of highest formant center to lowest.
I disagree, this sounds badass! :h:

I'd love if you could paste screenshots... will definitely be trying to emulate what you did there
Thanks! :D

caps: http://i.imgur.com/wLLW8N7.jpg

Just automate the talkwah "mouth" and "size" with the same envelope just have "size" affected twice as much.
Also I compressed, distorted and limited the crap out of this.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:48 am
by The Liberator
sunny_b_uk wrote:
The Liberator wrote:Here is another growl by me, this time I used talkwah on FM8 and a new matrix, tried to copy part of the SMaNS drop. :6:

IMO this sounds pretty bad.

Feel free to ask how I did this. I will take screencaps.

Soundcloud

BTW the order of vowels in the talkwah seems to be I,E,A,O,U which makes sense because that is in order of highest formant center to lowest.
i disagree too, don't be hard on yourself its good :mrgreen:
Thanks, btw the song in your sig is amazing! :o

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:39 am
by counterparty
The Liberator wrote:
udubstep wrote:
The Liberator wrote:Here is another growl by me, this time I used talkwah on FM8 and a new matrix, tried to copy part of the SMaNS drop. :6:

IMO this sounds pretty bad.

Feel free to ask how I did this. I will take screencaps.

Soundcloud

BTW the order of vowels in the talkwah seems to be I,E,A,O,U which makes sense because that is in order of highest formant center to lowest.
I disagree, this sounds badass! :h:

I'd love if you could paste screenshots... will definitely be trying to emulate what you did there
Thanks! :D

caps: http://i.imgur.com/wLLW8N7.jpg

Just automate the talkwah "mouth" and "size" with the same envelope just have "size" affected twice as much.
Also I compressed, distorted and limited the crap out of this.
:o dear god that's a ton of fm activity going on!

Appreciate the screenshots, I'm plugging into this now :W:

EDIT: Great man, just took a few minutes to throw it together hastily in order to preview the sound... very cool stuff! Soundcloud

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:53 pm
by enjarcher
Trying to emulate the Scary Monsters bass, but trying to get it to sound much cleaner.. like have a nice crunch to it without a constantly hissing high end. Any help?

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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:58 pm
by mthrfnk
enjarcher wrote:Trying to emulate the Scary Monsters bass, but trying to get it to sound much cleaner/more solid. Any suggestions? Thanks!

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Sounds like its an octave/few notes too high and there's too much obvious distortion. Try lowering the pitch and toning back your disto.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:04 pm
by enjarcher
mthrfnk wrote:
enjarcher wrote:Trying to emulate the Scary Monsters bass, but trying to get it to sound much cleaner/more solid. Any suggestions? Thanks!

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Sounds like its an octave/few notes too high and there's too much obvious distortion. Try lowering the pitch and toning back your disto.
Cheers, I literally just reuploaded with some changes, can you listen again? Sorry I haven't dealt with the distortion thing yet

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:39 pm
by mthrfnk
enjarcher wrote:
mthrfnk wrote:
enjarcher wrote:Trying to emulate the Scary Monsters bass, but trying to get it to sound much cleaner/more solid. Any suggestions? Thanks!

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Sounds like its an octave/few notes too high and there's too much obvious distortion. Try lowering the pitch and toning back your disto.
Cheers, I literally just reuploaded with some changes, can you listen again? Sorry I haven't dealt with the distortion thing yet
Nice, the "ra-ra-ra-raah-ra-ra-eee" is nice. What synth are you making this in? There could be a few different ways to make it clearer and get rid of the noise.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:00 pm
by enjarcher
OK, I think I might finally have this down!

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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:02 pm
by enjarcher
mthrfnk wrote:
enjarcher wrote:
mthrfnk wrote:
enjarcher wrote:Trying to emulate the Scary Monsters bass, but trying to get it to sound much cleaner/more solid. Any suggestions? Thanks!

Soundcloud
Sounds like its an octave/few notes too high and there's too much obvious distortion. Try lowering the pitch and toning back your disto.
Cheers, I literally just reuploaded with some changes, can you listen again? Sorry I haven't dealt with the distortion thing yet
Nice, the "ra-ra-ra-raah-ra-ra-eee" is nice. What synth are you making this in? There could be a few different ways to make it clearer and get rid of the noise.
It's massive :P

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:15 pm
by mthrfnk
enjarcher wrote:
mthrfnk wrote:
enjarcher wrote:
mthrfnk wrote:
enjarcher wrote:Trying to emulate the Scary Monsters bass, but trying to get it to sound much cleaner/more solid. Any suggestions? Thanks!

Soundcloud
Sounds like its an octave/few notes too high and there's too much obvious distortion. Try lowering the pitch and toning back your disto.
Cheers, I literally just reuploaded with some changes, can you listen again? Sorry I haven't dealt with the distortion thing yet
Nice, the "ra-ra-ra-raah-ra-ra-eee" is nice. What synth are you making this in? There could be a few different ways to make it clearer and get rid of the noise.
It's massive :P
Ah I was wondering if some of the noise was due to feedback in FM8, I was going to suggest toning that down. I'm guessing it's one of the inserts or fx you're using?

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:23 pm
by enjarcher
mthrfnk wrote: Ah I was wondering if some of the noise was due to feedback in FM8, I was going to suggest toning that down. I'm guessing it's one of the inserts or fx you're using?
My patch is actually pretty simple, I've only got a sine shaper with half dry/wet and drive in massive. There is other distortion outside though (izotope trash and ableton saturator)

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:25 am
by tomz
enjarcher wrote:OK, I think I might finally have this down!

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How did you do this? sounds sick

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:32 am
by enjarcher
tomz wrote:
enjarcher wrote:OK, I think I might finally have this down!

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How did you do this? sounds sick
Cheers! I've even done a full remake now... Soundcloud

But yeah, basically the bass is massive fed into a vowel eq, followed by izotope trash, then ableton saturator, then izotope ozone. After that it's resampled and shifted down a couple of semitones, and I automated a broad peak to move with the vowel, and for some of the faster bits I chopped it up.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:43 am
by Sinergy
Holy, the sound might be not exact, but the movement of it is IDENTICAL. props man