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i like 2 or 3 rock songs at best broadly

ezza wrote:i dont get the hate for drake and the weeknd

i super hate any male rnb... like I FUCKING HATE IT

yet the weeknd and drake appeal to me quite a lot. so they must be doing sumut right lol. i hate that whole scene, except those two

If you hate this you have no culture imo

I would go full homs for d'angelo

It's all about



The acapella for this is out there too, you're welcome

he's possibly the grossest guy ever

i would rather spoon with peter andre in a millenial continous vacuum then get stuck in an elevator with that omarion guy for five mins

also how is country music not just soul or gospel music so bad and racist in spirit that it had to be called something else?

I pre-emptively accept getting called ignorant and dumb here btw

It might be some complex thing where the segregation makes both develop individually and stronger and in that weird way become culture you'd have to defend on the same terms as I'm attacking it with but .... ?

hubb wrote:also how is country music not just soul or gospel music so bad and racist in spirit that it had to be called something else?

I pre-emptively accept getting called ignorant and dumb here btw

It might be some complex thing where the segregation makes both develop individually and stronger and in that weird way become culture you'd have to defend on the same terms as I'm attacking it with but .... ?

i don't get what you're saying here at all. please try to clarify.

country music sounds very different from soul and gospel. i think that's why it has a different name, not because the (white) people that made country didn't want to be lumped in with the (black) people that made soul/gospel (although I agree some country music is very racist).

yeah you're gunna have to re-write that hubb lol

country music = mostly european folk origins with a dash of african/native american folk music

gospel/soul = mostly african folk origins with a healthy dose of christian church influences

it has more to do with the backgrounds, rather than segregation itself. there are similar sounds in the music, but i dont tihnk racism really had a role in the founding of country music. did racists use it as a tool to help their cause tho? definitely.

all about dwele. prob more soul than r&b

everything is silly

Grime is incredibly boring.

jrkhnds wrote:Grime is incredibly boring.

kidshuffle wrote:yeah you're gunna have to re-write that hubb lol

country music = mostly european folk origins with a dash of african/native american folk music

gospel/soul = mostly african folk origins with a healthy dose of christian church influences

it has more to do with the backgrounds, rather than segregation itself. there are similar sounds in the music, but i dont tihnk racism really had a role in the founding of country music. did racists use it as a tool to help their cause tho? definitely.

is 'african folk' a vaguely racist term for blues?
because that's where both country/gospel are derived from.

No, african folk means folk music that the slaves broght from africa

Gospel was around since the 1700s, far before the blues. Country obviously had a blues influence, like any modern music, but white music had been influenced by african tradition long before the blues too. Where do you think them crackers got the banjos from for their bluegrass music?

sixs wrote:

kidshuffle wrote:yeah you're gunna have to re-write that hubb lol

country music = mostly european folk origins with a dash of african/native american folk music

gospel/soul = mostly african folk origins with a healthy dose of christian church influences

it has more to do with the backgrounds, rather than segregation itself. there are similar sounds in the music, but i dont tihnk racism really had a role in the founding of country music. did racists use it as a tool to help their cause tho? definitely.

is 'african folk' a vaguely racist term for blues?
because that's where both country/gospel are derived from.

Exactly the point. But I would word it slightly different, like country is derived from blues no doubt, but I would argue that gospel is just blues in church - which then sort of means that country despite being generally christian, is regular blues translated or put into a white context. Anything thing else is sort of denial in that specific respect because the dumb racists where smart enough to not fuck around in church.

I'm not saying that later on country wasn't able to speak about the plight of some disenfranchised individuals and in that sence argue it's own merrit, but to begin with I think it was basicly racism.

kidshuffle wrote:No, african folk means folk music that the slaves broght from africa

Gospel was around since the 1700s, far before the blues. Country obviously had a blues influence, like any modern music, but white music had been influenced by african tradition long before the blues too. Where do you think them crackers got the banjos from for their bluegrass music?

good point still. I think nlues is from the 17 if not 1690 or something btw


I remember in the documentary about Robert Crumb that he talks about some of the first vinyls from i think the 18th hundred.. not sure, but some of it is super dope

No, african folk means folk music that the slaves brought from africa

And then they would sing that while working (which gives a purpose to the more deliberate introduction of rythm in the music - meaning folk singing + rythm = blues)

But the 'blues' means singing about sad stuff which gospel also is

and when you then realize that rock music is rythm + blues, and that the african influence is usually thought of as mainly introducing rythms it becomes unecessarily convoluted or untruthful

i think it's all african folk music like hip hop or reggae

1690-1700? naw, the blues as it's known now started in the early 1900's but didn't reach popularity until after 1920.

@kidshuff, the slaves brought the kora to america, yes. but when it came to making them, they used old guitar necks, fretted & tuned to western styles.
the music they played was their take on traditional white US folk music, with a heavy hymnal overtone which went on to be called the blues.
african americans playing folk music ≠ african folk music. the closet thing to anything like folk music coming from africa was zouk, largely instrumental and stylistically miles away from folk.

i don't think anyone's denying the influence of african music on the west but the last part of your post makes no sense, blues predates bluegrass by decades

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jrkhnds wrote:Grime is incredibly boring.

I enjoy some tunes; often it's the ravier ones. but without the whole background of growing up in the UK and listening to that stuff on pirate radio / your brother's tape machine it's just really lackluster recycling of the same four sounds. the only reason I think I'm able to enjoy dubstep is because my mother had incredibly good taste in music and listened to a lot of dub. I can relate to the music. grime just leaves me cold most of the time.

btw is SD Laika still grime? I really rate him.

Koreless has always been awful.