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Re: Post your unpopular opinions.
Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:45 pm
by DiegoSapiens
RKM wrote:i think that is the case, a natural tendency to associate and feel more empathetic to your own group that looks like you, and suspicion and fear of those who don't
Yeah this
Plus if you see chimpanzees that are our more similar animals the genocide other monkey races with no reason
Re: Post your unpopular opinions.
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:41 pm
by hubb
It can not be said about humans as it's way too simplified.
It's not done via iconographic logic by dividing into pairs or groups or something..
It's not about what you recognize or anything like that either.. we are meant to empathise with everything we understand and so it's more the other way around where we 'program' a few things during life that we decide to take out of the instinct bowl who then doesn't get our immediate empathy.
Being afraid of stuff is 'losing' in an evolutionairy sence.
Re: Post your unpopular opinions.
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:01 pm
by rickyarbino
RKM wrote:i think that is the case, a natural tendency to associate and feel more empathetic to your own group that looks like you, and suspicion and fear of those who don't
People aren't born knowing their skin colours. Babies with one skin colour don't refuse to feed from women of another skin colour. How is this behaviour natural? I'm aware how common it is to exhibit racist behaviour, but saying it's natural is saying it is unnatural not to be racist, which is pretty racist, imo.
Re: Post your unpopular opinions.
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:09 pm
by CreamLord
I don't think it necessarily means that you're born racist, just that given the choice you'll prefer people more similar to you. The same concept applies when choosing friends, you'd rather hang with someone with similar interests to you or even similar in appearance. Babies are more primitive in terms of cognition so will Base this off of external factors rather than which baby likes which song or whatever. What I'm saying refers more to gender though but race may or may not be a factor but we'll never really know because obviously you can't ask a baby
Re: Post your unpopular opinions.
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:17 pm
by jrkhnds
it's all conditionalised, like jess said. my (black) cousin lived in france for the first two years and rarely ever saw a black person other than his mother. he's suspicious of black people, and when they moved back to cameroun, he had a bit of a hard time... whatever you're getting used to you'll consider to be the norm, and act accordingly.
Re: Post your unpopular opinions.
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:45 pm
by hubb
CreamLord wrote:I don't think it necessarily means that you're born racist, just that given the choice you'll prefer people more similar to you. The same concept applies when choosing friends, you'd rather hang with someone with similar interests to you or even similar in appearance. Babies are more primitive in terms of cognition so will Base this off of external factors rather than which baby likes which song or whatever. What I'm saying refers more to gender though but race may or may not be a factor but we'll never really know because obviously you can't ask a baby
sorry dear waffle
there's no truth to it at all. what you and diego is talking about is something else.
we do have an inherent ability to superficially notice if we have certain traits in common with strangers and even genes.
like girls reacting to a specific combination of things that at the same time causes a specific smell (dad). but it has very little to do with socializing.
even conditioning isn't that strict and is reversed or turned around continually.
we dont just react to primal instincts like that... and that is what being a 'human' is about. and fortunately so innit
Re: Post your unpopular opinions.
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:48 pm
by hubb
having said that
ofcourse there's people that socialize like animals
for example bros
but you dont invite them inside the house
Re: Post your unpopular opinions.
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:50 pm
by Harkat
I have an easier time sympathizing with other people who radiate trillness such as myself
can't sympathize with haters, its biologically hardcoded into me
Re: Post your unpopular opinions.
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:53 pm
by AxeD
Can cringing cause heart failure? Cause I just got this stabbing pain in my chest.
Re: Post your unpopular opinions.
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:55 pm
by jrkhnds
Harkat wrote:I have an easier time sympathizing with other people who radiate trillness such as myself
can't sympathize with haters, its biologically hardcoded into me
trilla fo life
Re: Post your unpopular opinions.
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:55 pm
by CreamLord
hubb wrote:CreamLord wrote:I don't think it necessarily means that you're born racist, just that given the choice you'll prefer people more similar to you. The same concept applies when choosing friends, you'd rather hang with someone with similar interests to you or even similar in appearance. Babies are more primitive in terms of cognition so will Base this off of external factors rather than which baby likes which song or whatever. What I'm saying refers more to gender though but race may or may not be a factor but we'll never really know because obviously you can't ask a baby
sorry dear waffle
there's no truth to it at all. what you and diego is talking about is something else.
we do have an inherent ability to superficially notice if we have certain traits in common with strangers and even genes.
like girls reacting to a specific combination of things that at the same time causes a specific smell (dad). but it has very little to do with socializing.
even conditioning isn't that strict and is reversed or turned around continually.
we dont just react to primal instincts like that... and that is what being a 'human' is about. and fortunately so innit
That's basically what I'm saying though (minus the social bit, I didn't include that)
Re: Post your unpopular opinions.
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:15 pm
by MasterA
Sam Smith has a good voice but his overwrought emotion is just tiresome. No depth or subtlety.
Re: Post your unpopular opinions.
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:40 pm
by DiegoSapiens
Harkat wrote:I have an easier time sympathizing with other people who radiate trillness such as myself
can't sympathize with haters, its biologically hardcoded into me
What are you doing here then
Re: Post your unpopular opinions.
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:40 pm
by Harkat
ok, I lied I'm a pussy
Re: Post your unpopular opinions.
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:45 pm
by RKM
rickyarbino wrote:RKM wrote:i think that is the case, a natural tendency to associate and feel more empathetic to your own group that looks like you, and suspicion and fear of those who don't
People aren't born knowing their skin colours. Babies with one skin colour don't refuse to feed from women of another skin colour. How is this behaviour natural? I'm aware how common it is to exhibit racist behaviour, but saying it's natural is saying it is unnatural not to be racist, which is pretty racist, imo.
sorry for the racism lads
im out
Re: Post your unpopular opinions.
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:50 pm
by CreamLord
My niqqa
Regarding Sam Smith, he has a nice voice but his solo work is just so boring
Re: Post your unpopular opinions.
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:33 am
by hubb
Re: Post your unpopular opinions.
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:08 pm
by wolf89
Trelldom > Gorgoroth
Re: Post your unpopular opinions.
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:31 pm
by garethom
Powell - Club Music is fucking boring.
Re: Post your unpopular opinions.
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:51 pm
by wolf89
garethom wrote:Powell - Club Music is fucking boring.
Ooh me and you disagreeing again. Hahaha
I would still recommend you see him Dj regardless