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Trainrek wrote:

xarcane wrote:White and middle-class, my big black foot... I grew up on a council estate where violence was the norm.

Poetry didn't evolve as a way of communicating human emotion through language, that's bullshit, that's called conversation - it evolved as a form of storytelling. It evolved as an art-form to make it easier to remember stories and preserve our history before the art of writing. It does engender emotion obviously, but it engenders emotion by letting other people experience the situation you're writing/talking about and having them develop their own emotional responses. That's why Duffy is at the top of the art form even though her work is incredibly elitist - she has extended that concept through to the point where she uses a form that lets you construct your own poetry, and you become even more involved in the situation she's describing.

You can't just feed emotion into someone, being all like - "I am sad", "I am angry", which is basically what Jehst does if you take away the linguistic techniques:

"Eye of the storm, my tears fall as a torrential downpour
The flood, your death wish written in blood"

Strip it to it's bare bones that's simply - "I'm sad". That doesn't engender an emotional response like true art, it just makes me want to mock and belittle him.

And
You gotta feel sickness as I depict this
You never can escape that you’ve been a witness
Hunting the deer we became distracted
Disturbed by the way that our neighbours acted
Jumped to conclusions with sick delusions
Cos bulk intrusions had us confused
Began with the fusion of elements new
And strongly denied we’d developed a brew
To burn off flesh of an irrelevant few
A malevolent crew not benevolent (you know)

Stripped to its bare bones is simply - "I'm a tnuc". That makes me want to punch him in his face.

"Eye of the storm, my tears fall as a torrential downpour
The flood, your death wish written in blood"

Strip it to it's bare bones that's simply - "I'm sad". That doesn't engender an emotional response like true art, it just makes me want to mock and belittle him.

arktrix wrote:Real hip hop that has the wordplay and tells a story, still shiteloads better than Example.

xarcane wrote:Bruv if you were a real Jehst fan instead of jumping on the bandwagon to slate the guy you posted, you would be saying something like

"Eye of the storm, my tears fall as a torrential downpour
The flood, your death wish written in blood"

Strip it to it's bare bones that's simply - "I'm sad". That doesn't engender an emotional response like true art, it just makes me want to mock and belittle him.

Nah blud - he's talking about the flood, the biblical flood that destroys humanity, he's saying humanity's sorrow creates the flood, which destroys our corrupted civilisation. The flood hasn't already happened, but he's saying we're writing about this death of humanity's corrupted civilization as if it's already happened - "we've written our own death wish in blood (of those already said to have died)".

Then I'd be all like:

"Real talk."


But you man posting Jehst videos don't know hip-hop. I should slew all you white middle-class kids for disgracing hiphop's fine name with your bandwagon jumping, posting Jehst videos without dropping some knowledge. Can't even defend a single Jehst tune or lyrics. Bun your Example talk, he's real, he tried real shit, didn't make any money, then came off that to make a bit of dough - he didn't drag hiphop down with him like 99% of clowns do nowadays.

xarcane wrote:Bruv if you were a real Jehst fan instead of jumping on the bandwagon to slate the guy you posted, you would be saying something like

"Eye of the storm, my tears fall as a torrential downpour
The flood, your death wish written in blood"

Strip it to it's bare bones that's simply - "I'm sad". That doesn't engender an emotional response like true art, it just makes me want to mock and belittle him.

Nah blud - he's talking about the flood, the biblical flood that destroys humanity, he's saying humanity's sorrow creates the flood, which destroys our corrupted civilisation. The flood hasn't already happened, but he's saying we're writing about this death of humanity's corrupted civilization as if it's already happened - "we've written our own death wish in blood (of those already said to have died)".

Then I'd be all like:

"Real talk."

But you man posting Jehst videos don't know hip-hop. I should slew all you white middle-class kids for disgracing hiphop's fine name with your bandwagon jumping, posting Jehst videos without dropping some knowledge. Can't even defend a single Jehst tune or lyrics. Bun your Example talk, he's real, he tried real shit, didn't make any money, then came off that to make a bit of dough - he didn't drag hiphop down with him like 99% of clowns do nowadays.

xarcane wrote:Bruv if you were a real Jehst fan instead of jumping on the bandwagon to slate the guy you posted, you would be saying something like

"Eye of the storm, my tears fall as a torrential downpour
The flood, your death wish written in blood"

Strip it to it's bare bones that's simply - "I'm sad". That doesn't engender an emotional response like true art, it just makes me want to mock and belittle him.

Nah blud - he's talking about the flood, the biblical flood that destroys humanity, he's saying humanity's sorrow creates the flood, which destroys our corrupted civilisation. The flood hasn't already happened, but he's saying we're writing about this death of humanity's corrupted civilization as if it's already happened - "we've written our own death wish in blood (of those already said to have died)".

Then I'd be all like:

"Real talk."

But you man posting Jehst videos don't know hip-hop. I should slew all you white middle-class kids for disgracing hiphop's fine name with your bandwagon jumping, posting Jehst videos without dropping some knowledge. Can't even defend a single Jehst tune or lyrics. Bun your Example talk, he's real, he tried real shit, didn't make any money, then came off that to make a bit of dough - he didn't drag hiphop down with him like 99% of clowns do nowadays.

xarcane wrote:That's why Duffy is at the top of the art form even though her work is incredibly elitist

apmje wrote: What about us white working class people?

Trainrek wrote:video