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Re: serious discussion about casual racism in europe

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:34 pm
by 5910
It's not about tribes yo. Get hip. It's about stereotyping. The belief that all people of a certain colour should and do think and behave in a certain way, the fact that they withhold ccertain characteristics as a result of the colour of their skin. That goes both ways, we have these schemas for ourselves and others.
The tribes thing is a different, albeit related debate. Not all people of other tribes are different colours.
Tribes are really just terms for societies.

Re: serious discussion about casual racism in europe

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:36 pm
by garethom
alphacat wrote:And me personally: as an American of mainly German and Swedish descent, it's hard to be more honky than I am... and I have always been more attracted to dark-skinned gyals! :6: (my first crush was on Shari Belafonte when I was like 7.)
I am a blonde haired and blue eyed. My girlfriend is blonde haired and blue eyed. Big up diversity.

Re: serious discussion about casual racism in europe

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:10 pm
by Genevieve
alphacat wrote:
Genevieve wrote:Racism as we know it is a social construct, but it's the product of a more underlying trait that all humans have. We're all "supposed" to favor "our tribe" over someone else's "tribe" and our judgements reflect that. They're a defense mechanism, where we're safer in our own environment and less safe in another. At a time where various tribes were fighting over limited resources on the African plains, it was a good feature to have.
There are many evolutionary biologists who would challenge this common assumption. The argument has also been made that humans retain a basic urge to find genes that are different from their own to provide what's known as "hybrid vigor," or basically a lack of inbreeding... for example, dogs that are mutts are usually much genetically healthier than so-called purebreds, simply because purebreds got that way through deliberate and intensive inbreeding for desired traits.

And me personally: as an American of mainly German and Swedish descent, it's hard to be more honky than I am... and I have always been more attracted to dark-skinned gyals! :6: (my first crush was on Shari Belafonte when I was like 7.)

That being said - I also believe we have to have a somewhat innate sense of xenophobia as well that balances this urge for strange 'tang. As with anything else, it's a continuum and not a binary set of options. Some people, some cultures are going to favor one tendency more than the other based on what's beneath.
Sure and I'm generally sexually attracted to a wide variety of girls too. Though I don't think it necessarily makes anyone 'less racist' to wanna fuck someone of another ethnicity.

But as with anything in evolution, there's a balance of two opposing traits that have both beneficial and negative outcomes when it comes to reproduction.

On one hand, it's obviously beneficial to have a wide variety of genes for a good immune system and to decrease the chance of deformities in your offspring. But when you're fighting for resources it's dangerous to get close to another tribe's territory. So it's human nature to keep both of those in a balance.

Re: serious discussion about casual racism in europe

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:15 pm
by nowaysj
capo ultra wrote:
nowaysj wrote:When's europe going to have a black king?
Europe doesn't have a king
I'm thinking you shouldn't be punched in the head anymore. :a:

Re: serious discussion about casual racism in europe

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:57 pm
by Kochari
mIrReN wrote: btw, fyi we still have lots of racist ppl joined in group, factions, B&H etc but hey theyre everywhere and the only way to exterminate is to DANCE!
Fixed

Re: serious discussion about casual racism in europe

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:22 pm
by capo ultra
nowaysj wrote:
capo ultra wrote:
nowaysj wrote:When's europe going to have a black king?
Europe doesn't have a king
I'm thinking you shouldn't be punched in the head anymore. :a:
eh? It literally doesn't and yea not gettin punched for expressing a fact in the head would be cool

Re: serious discussion about casual racism in europe

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:37 pm
by pkay
5910 wrote:It's not about tribes yo. Get hip. It's about stereotyping. The belief that all people of a certain colour should and do think and behave in a certain way, the fact that they withhold ccertain characteristics as a result of the colour of their skin. That goes both ways, we have these schemas for ourselves and others.
The tribes thing is a different, albeit related debate. Not all people of other tribes are different colours.
Tribes are really just terms for societies.
You need to read all posts for context

Re: serious discussion about casual racism in europe

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:59 pm
by kidshuffle
skrillex is actually the king of europe

Re: serious discussion about casual racism in europe

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:06 pm
by Genevieve
5910 wrote:Telling me that it's racist to take pride in my heritage suggests that you are in fact, racist.
Shame on you. :a:
It is, 'pride' implies exceptionalism. If every 'heritage' is one that someone can be proud of, then it sort of defeats the purpose of being proud of it.

And I mean, it'sa silly concept. Be proud of YOUR actions, not someone else's, I'd say. I feel like being proud of your nationality or heritage is compensating for something your lack as an individual.

Re: serious discussion about casual racism in europe

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:12 pm
by wobbles
i remember back in high school all the asians had this whole "AZN PRYDE" thing going on throwing around some of the most racist shit i've ever read on the internet through their xanga pages

Re: serious discussion about casual racism in europe

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:16 pm
by garethom
wobbles wrote:i remember back in high school all the asians had this whole "AZN PRYDE" thing going on throwing around some of the most racist shit i've ever read on the internet through their xanga pages
DUDE

did u say ALL the asians? didnt u know on dsf its mandatory to say "NOT ALL race/gender/group" becase ur scared of looking like uve ever accidentally offended anyone ever. :a:

Re: serious discussion about casual racism in europe

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:19 pm
by 5910
Genevieve wrote:
5910 wrote:Telling me that it's racist to take pride in my heritage suggests that you are in fact, racist.
Shame on you. :a:
It is, 'pride' implies exceptionalism. If every 'heritage' is one that someone can be proud of, then it sort of defeats the purpose of being proud of it.

And I mean, it'sa silly concept. Be proud of YOUR actions, not someone else's, I'd say. I feel like being proud of your nationality or heritage is compensating for something your lack as an individual.
I don't think you acknowledged what my post was in reference to. Faust and I were casually joking about my shout to the residents of the London borough of harrow.

Cheers for the lecture though, dunno what I would've done without t G.

Re: serious discussion about casual racism in europe

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:32 pm
by 5910
And by your logic everyone should die because anyone can breathe so why bother!!!!!11

Re: serious discussion about casual racism in europe

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:35 pm
by Genevieve
5910 wrote:And by your logic everyone should die because anyone can breathe so why bother!!!!!11
Yeah, good point. Should've thought of that.

Re: serious discussion about casual racism in europe

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:59 pm
by 5910
I'm dead now.

Re: serious discussion about casual racism in europe

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:03 pm
by AxeD
capo ultra wrote:
nowaysj wrote:
capo ultra wrote:
nowaysj wrote:When's europe going to have a black king?
Europe doesn't have a king
I'm thinking you shouldn't be punched in the head anymore. :a:
eh? It literally doesn't and yea not gettin punched for expressing a fact in the head would be cool
This sentence... Shakespeare has nothing on this guy.
I thought Europe was a monarchy, so I even learned something too.

Re: serious discussion about casual racism in europe

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:37 pm
by nowaysj
Do not start expressing facts in the head, or you will be punched, last warning :a:

Re: serious discussion about casual racism in europe

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:07 am
by alphacat
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Re: serious discussion about casual racism in europe

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:59 am
by capo ultra
nowaysj wrote:Do not start expressing facts in the head, or you will be punched, last warning :a:
make sense pls nd then I will thx

Re: serious discussion about casual racism in europe

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:28 am
by Pada
Genevieve wrote:
(Pada) wrote:
JBoy wrote: Its in our DNA to be racist i think.
Might be in yours but not in mine mate ;)
I have way more respect for someone who admits to having a racist thought on occasion but realizes it's wrong than some dude who thinks he's above that and acts like he's a beacon of tolerant light in a world filled with prejudice and racism.
I don't think I'm perfect in any regard but iink that any racism I may exhibit (rarely) Is a product of conditioning and experiences rather than genetics x drubk