So, like, WW3

[Sexual_Chocolate]

More like sad. We should all be one able to live in peace this day in age. A dream I know, but eh.

[hifi]

Everything is so confusing

to me yea. noways providing a lot of info ,i need to start paying more attention

[nowaysj]

Honestly, with things in Asia chilling out, apparently, the potential for ww3 seems way more chill now. Seems more likely for a regional conventional war, or maybe regional nuclear war in the mideast.

[nowaysj]

Honestly, with things in Asia chilling out, apparently, the potential for ww3 seems way more chill now. Seems more likely for a regional conventional war, or maybe regional nuclear war in the mideast.

[Sexual_Chocolate]

think you might find this interesting then (even has terrorist styled WMD's lol)

http://www.nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

[Terpit]

maybe regional nuclear war in the mideast.

ohh dont say that that would be hell for me

[nowaysj]

For you and many others.

[Terpit]

haha yeah my post probably looks quite selfish

[nowaysj]

Trying to continue your life isn't selfish.

[Terpit]

i meant by adding 'for me' at the end.
You knew that, you cheeky monkey.

[Phase Down]

I fully understand your views I just don't think it's a new scenario.
I know I mention African loads but the continent has been steeped in war for years without anyone really thinking too hard about it.

As Magma says though, I really don't think it's quite as simmering as everyone's making out this week/month.

african has no money for all the missiles and bombs and firepower these countries own.. so relevant.. of course them having war is not going to affect us

Matthew 24:6-7

6 You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that you are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom... All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.

OP. What you are seeing is Bible prophecy being fullfilled. Roll your eyes, people, but it doesn't change the reality of the situation, or the truthfulness of the scriptures.

the most general garbage ive read in awhile.. do you believe star stories in the daily mail too?

[nowaysj]

So never mind that the Palestinians and the Israelis are fixing bayonets and intend to run in a line at each other, this is worrying:

France ‘Biggest Problem’ in Euro Crisis, Say German Officials

http://world.time.com/2012/11/14/france ... z2CJsel411

Given their self-appointed role as the European Union’s austerity enforcers, German leaders aren’t exactly troubled by being among the least popular figures within the crisis-rocked euro zone. That’s doubly good, given the German penchant of wrapping tough love within even tougher language—a combo now raising hackles in France after months of it ticking off debt-laden nations of southern Europe.

Officials in Paris have been stung by recent comments from Berlin targeting France as the “real problem” in Europe’s continuing debt emergency. Worse still, media reports say German government officials have asked economic advisers to identify urgent reforms the French should be applying—and presumably aren’t—to turn Europe’s second largest economy away from its slow slide towards calamity. What’s German for ’France sucks’?

“Is France the New Greece?” offered the Oct. 31 headline in Bild, echoing rising German concern about France becoming the euro’s weakest and most dangerous link. That tone isn’t just coming from Germany’s petulant tabloids. Of late, even staid German figures have expressed concern that French Socialist President François Hollande has employed largely superficial measures to address France’s budget deficit, but avoided deep structural reforms German experts call vital to restore lasting health to the slumping French economy.

(MORE: Anti-Austerity Protests Sweep the Euro Zone)

“The biggest problem at the moment in the euro zone is no longer Greece, Spain or Italy, instead it is France, because it has not undertaken anything in order to truly re-establish its competitiveness, and is even heading in the opposite direction,” German economist Lars Feld told Reuters Nov. 7. “France needs labor market reforms, it is the country among euro zone countries that works the least each year, so how do you expect any results from that? Things won’t work unless more efforts are made.”

It gets worse for France from there. Feld’s comments came in a Reuters report revealing German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble has ordered the board of economists advising the government to examine ways France needs to put its economic house into order. Responding to a flurry of substantiating stories following the Reuters report, German officials have said Schaeuble’s call for a review of France’s economic health was unofficial in nature. They also said the survey may be produced with a French institutional partner, and would in no manner be presented to Paris as a prescription for future policy.

But those disclaimers did little to assuage French sentiment their German “partner” in the euro crisis was demoting France to the club of weak, incorrigible, and eminently vulnerable euro members alongside Spain, Italy, and even Greece. “Berlin To Paris: ‘Achtung!’, blared the Nov. 12 headline of the French daily Libération. “In Germany People No Longer Hide Their Poor View Of France’s Economic Policies, and Sound the Alarm Over (France’s) Threat To Europe.”

(MORE: How France Is A Microcosm Of the Euro’s Crisis)

The timing of the negative German noise is additionally painful for French leaders. On Nov. 7, Hollande’s government announced it was applying selected elements from a long-anticipated report on boosting competitiveness of French companies, and reinvigorating the nation’s flat-lining economy. Under that, the government will extend $25.4 billion in tax credits to businesses to underwrite employee-linked charges financing health care, retirement, and other social programs. To finance that, the government will increase value-added tax by around 1%.

Critics in France complained that fell far short of the report’s call to slash those employee costs by $38.1 billion—and hardly dented the $89 billion France’s business lobby demanded. Meanwhile, German officials have joined French detractors criticizing those moves for entirely ignoring structural changes they argue are necessary to make France’s labor market more flexible and efficient.

The weakening of employee rights and protection that involves is a painful transition Germany undertook a decade ago–and now claims was the key to creating its current economic stability. Facing the same currency crisis, Germany’s 2012 growth rate is estimated at 0.9%, versus 0.1% in France; Germany’s jobless level of 5.4% is far below the 9.8% French tally. Yet German hectoring isn’t just about the altruism of one country wanting the best for its neighbor. Germany knows if France fails to right itself and tanks as a result, the entire euro zone will go down with it—Germans included.

French officials have responded to the worried German thrum with calming reminders that contrasting views over the pace of reform are part of a long line of differing but compatible economic and social philosophies that have set the two nations apart throughout history. Hollande is also expected to defend his comparatively moderated approach to facing France’s deficit and debt problem during the first major press conference of his presidency Nov. 13—a performance aimed at both lifting his dismal domestic approval ratings, and quieting German critics.

But should that drone from the east rise further, Hollande may point out how German-imposed austerity hasn’t quite worked as promised where it’s been imposed. On Nov. 12, Merkel’s visit to Portugal hailing Lisbon’s debt-fighting spending cuts produced mass protests–and complaints resulting public pain hasn’t improved Portugal’s finances. Similar anti-austerity demonstrations have repeatedly halted activity in Spain and Greece—which on Monday had to be given two more years by creditors to meet debt reduction targets that ruthless waves of state spending cuts have failed to bring down.

And if those warnings don’t work to quiet German fretting, Hollande might hit Merkel where it really hurts. Observers on both sides of the Rhine say much of the new tough German talk on austerity targeting foreign nations is really aimed at German voters heading into general elections in 2013. Merkel may believe burnishing her reputation as Europe’s austerity enforcer will secure her re-election in a year, but Hollande may remind her a similar strategy had just the opposite effect for France’s former President Nicolas Sarkozy in his failed bid for a second term last May.

Read more: http://world.time.com/2012/11/14/france ... z2CJsm8gep

[nowaysj]

[Sexual_Chocolate]

ummmm

^^ explain those pictorials

[Phigure]

So funny, have read editorials and articles from and about Syria, with rebels saying, "Where is the US? We need the US to supply weapons, and troops to get rid so Assad. If the US won't help, we will never forgive the US etc..."

There is no answer for the US, though. If we help, we are imperialists, if we don't we are arrogant and self interested. I also have to ask, where was our help from the Syrians when our democracy collapsed in '00 and '04? Were they ready to die to restore our democracy?

It is all moot though, at this point. US is bankrupt, no money for nation building anymore. Think we'd duke for only two things now, threats to our currency and out right nuke war.

i dont think the us would be painted as imperialists for helping in syria. the us got involved in lybia and it all went more or less just fine. it's a humanitarian crisis, i dont think most people would have any qualms with international involvement to solve the crisis.

and it's a little bit absurd, almost insulting, to compare what's happening over there to what happened in the US in 2000 and 2004...

[nowaysj]

and it's a little bit absurd, almost insulting, to compare what's happening over there to what happened in the US in 2000 and 2004...

Iraq and Afghanistan happened as a result of 2000. Much worse, actually.

[Phigure]

yes, those wars are bad, in fact really bad, but its a bit different than thousands of protesters being shot in the street for no reason, followed by an all out civil war. i think it sort of belittles the plight of the people over there.

[nowaysj]

Assad still has a lot of popular support in Syria, as I understand it. Naive to believe that the US wouldn't be painted as imperialist. They certainly were in Libya.

[Devry_Kaneda]

It is all moot though, at this point. US is bankrupt, no money for nation building anymore. Think we'd duke for only two things now, threats to our currency and out right nuke war.

I keep telling people, it's all about the petro-dollar. Also, lol at all these trade agreements popping up that aren't denominated in US currency. India is paying for Iranian oil In Yuan now. We are becoming wonderfully irrelevant.

This is good. Now the name of the game is rebuilding this place, making it attractive to capital once again...

[noam]

It is all moot though, at this point. US is bankrupt, no money for nation building anymore. Think we'd duke for only two things now, threats to our currency and out right nuke war.

I keep telling people, it's all about the petro-dollar. Also, lol at all these trade agreements popping up that aren't denominated in US currency. India is paying for Iranian oil In Yuan now. We are becoming wonderfully irrelevant.

This is good. Now the name of the game is rebuilding this place, making it attractive to capital once again...

im pretty sure thats specifically to do with the embargo on iranian financial institutions that prevents them from transferring funds in or out of the country... an embargo setup by the US

could be wrong tho