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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 3:42 pm
by human?
yo, ima junglist.

and jungle is doin well nowadays. good sounds coming from alot of angles.

and dubstep compliments the new jungle sound fantasticly.

they are different facets of the same gem.

bottom line, play good music.... loud.

one
human?

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 3:51 pm
by rekall
human? wrote:bottom line, play good music.... loud.
seen!
large, large up to the man like human(?) !!

speaking of playing good music loud...
june 23rd in philly yours truly doing my cross-genre
electro/techno/dubstep/breaks 'ting. Watch Out.

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 3:55 pm
by j_j
REKALL WROTE ;n contrast, even the cheesiest of dubstep tunes (those having
more to do with grime/garridge than dub-ness, really) has not yet
illicited the arms-flailing-running-out-of-the-room-screaming
reaction from me, and that's a very good sign.


what u sayin ,grimes cheesy ??lol

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 4:00 pm
by rekall
J_J wrote:what u sayin ,grimes cheesy ??lol
hahaha this man's got jokes. :lol:

well the stuff more deeply rooted in garridge and less to do with industrial, i mean.
all a bit wobbly, and a big affair when it's played out.
antics, a la reggaeton / mexican television.
all in good fun tho!
i'll take that over god damn vapid fucking 'slam' anyday.

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 4:29 pm
by viceroy
human? wrote:yo, ima junglist.

and jungle is doin well nowadays. good sounds coming from alot of angles.

and dubstep compliments the new jungle sound fantasticly.

they are different facets of the same gem.

bottom line, play good music.... loud.

one
human?
Yea, saw Scumbag throw down a sick ragga set here in CT last night. Here in CT there is a monthly that has been going strong for 2 years, wich I think is a big feat because .... its fucking Connecticut.

Me and one of the original crew members are going to start throwing down dubstep at the events.

I think ragga and dubstep go hand in hand.

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 4:32 pm
by rekall
half of dancehall and dubstep fi sho go hand-in-hand. shared tempo.

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 5:16 pm
by auralassassin
Viceroy, when that shit gets moving, I'll be making a trip out to the great ole state of CT to witness and participate on a musical level :D

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 12:19 am
by r53
MRJIGGYFLY wrote:I think dnb , jungle or what ever the fuck you wanna call it, mostly appeals to the younger crowd who was to young to be there the first time around(1993-1999).

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Spot on.
I know its been said before but the feel of dubstep sheds new light onto a very dull dnb scene and opens new horizions

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 12:31 am
by evolve
Jungle is HEAVY top cat, congo natty etc DRUM N BASE IS SHIT i havnt heard a decent dnb track in a long time, excuding calibre. people are getting onti dubstep because its fresh and hasnt got stale. i just hope it doesnt turn into the next "coffe table" down with the kids dance music that D n B turned into

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 12:34 am
by rekall
it won't if we the producers and we the selectors maintain blind faith in the existence of open minds.
we doin' the job so far. let's keep on it.

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 12:39 am
by auralassassin
Junglists aren't GETTING angry.. they already are angry.

They've been angry.

And they need to chill the fuck out.

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 12:45 am
by rekall
i agree we all need to dress to the nines and hang out at a strictly upscale house nite for once and get laid.

pity about the music at such cushy spots.
i'd be prone to strangle myself with the nearest rca cable five minutes upon entry.

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:25 am
by auralassassin
I actually like house... easy there, turbo :D

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 5:35 am
by rekall
make no mistake, i like house too. but i said 'upscale'...

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 6:31 am
by whitebait
cool, reckon you can link us to a good house mix that isn't cheddar then ?

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 6:40 am
by rekall
my buddy knows what's up with quality...

http://nathanleonard.com

after splash page, mouseover 'compilations' and pick one.

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:44 am
by robadub
ive been into hardcore/jungle/dnb since 92

its been fucking ages since ive been listening to tunes and thought ''oh my god fucking hell what is this i need it now''

however recently i have discovered dubstep

i am now getting that feeling again !!

big up dubstep

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:58 am
by shonky
A mate of mine pointed out the other year that drum'n'bass at its most formulaic sounds like speed metal with samplers, synths and drum machines replacing the traditional instruments (similar chord progression, tempos, military precision, etc).

Seems to me that taking that and applying it to dubstep consequently creates a sort of synthetic doom metal (very slow, very riffy, bass-tweaking taking the place of guitar solos).

Don't know if this is the influence of the d'n'b set, but it seems to me the "step" in earlier dubstep, came from 2-step, and were attempts to introduce more musical, deeper vibes than the blinged up end of garage (although there were some damn good producers and tunes that came from it) but taking the innovations from it on board.

At the end of the day, I liked the more pre-98 dnb/jungle (Remarc, Source Direct, Photek, Rush, etc) as there were more ideas present and a good attitude towards using them, same thing with earlier dubstep. What seems to be happening is that things seem to be moving towards a 70bpm sound that in it's own way is becoming as formulaic as dnb has for the last few years. Dubstep for me works best when it's pushing the soulful, spiritual end of the sound and not just the technical side - when it works best, both are balanced in the music.

Having said that, enjoy what you enjoy, it'd be a very boring world if there was only one point of view. Congo Natty rule though!!

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 3:22 pm
by braiden
Shonky wrote:A mate of mine pointed out the other year that drum'n'bass at its most formulaic sounds like speed metal with samplers, synths and drum machines replacing the traditional instruments (similar chord progression, tempos, military precision, etc).

Seems to me that taking that and applying it to dubstep consequently creates a sort of synthetic doom metal (very slow, very riffy, bass-tweaking taking the place of guitar solos).

Don't know if this is the influence of the d'n'b set, but it seems to me the "step" in earlier dubstep, came from 2-step, and were attempts to introduce more musical, deeper vibes than the blinged up end of garage (although there were some damn good producers and tunes that came from it) but taking the innovations from it on board.

At the end of the day, I liked the more pre-98 dnb/jungle (Remarc, Source Direct, Photek, Rush, etc) as there were more ideas present and a good attitude towards using them, same thing with earlier dubstep. What seems to be happening is that things seem to be moving towards a 70bpm sound that in it's own way is becoming as formulaic as dnb has for the last few years. Dubstep for me works best when it's pushing the soulful, spiritual end of the sound and not just the technical side - when it works best, both are balanced in the music.

Having said that, enjoy what you enjoy, it'd be a very boring world if there was only one point of view. Congo Natty rule though!!
Dubstep as an 'urban' doom metal? I like that comparison. Imagine Sunn o))) at a dubstep night :o

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 11:15 pm
by whitebait
rekall wrote:my buddy knows what's up with quality...

http://nathanleonard.com

after splash page, mouseover 'compilations' and pick one.
sorry, not really feeling them mixes, parmesan if you ask me :(