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Re: feminine issues in electronic music...

Post by magma » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:54 am

lovelydivot wrote:Seriously - Where did you get this shit from...
magma wrote:You've spent the last 4 years on this site blaming every woman in the world for your own unhappiness.

I never - not once said anything close to this - you are adding very distorted shit.


I don't need you to tell me what I've experienced or to what distorted degree.
I'm sharing my experience and views on a real issue.


You are just denying it because you benefit...

Haven't you seen the movie Dr. Strangelove? t's not new - and it's not fabricated by me...
I'm not denying it's an issue. I'm denying it's an insurmountable problem. You inflate these issues into reasons to spend your life being miserable and routinely divert any thread on here even remotely connected with sex into a chaotic braindump of children's TV images. That's not the world being weird.

Most people manage to accept the failures of the world and do their best to get around them. I'm not going to pretend that life's a cakewalk for anyone... and I'm fully aware that the closer to the "ideal" anyone is, the easier they might find it... but that's not to say every good looking person gets a good life or that it's worth giving up for everyone else. I know, as does everyone, men and women of all shapes and sizes that find love, success and happiness... I know people of all shapes and sizes that spend their lives being miserable. Most of the miserable ones spend vastly more time complaining about the world than they do fixing their own existences.

It's your responsibility to create happiness.

When you're a teenager you can blame the world. When you're an adult you need to consider [wo]manning the fuck up.
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Re: feminine issues in electronic music...

Post by Ficticious » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:13 am

fuck popcorn, someone get me some icecream this time.
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Re: feminine issues in electronic music...

Post by LACE » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:35 am

fuck off phase, you're more interested in putting BM down then attempting to genuinely rationalize her situation you rude little shit.
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Re: feminine issues in electronic music...

Post by nousd » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:46 am

a lovely divot would involve a neat gash no?
...imbuing her with the confidence that only orderliness of mind or psyche can impart .
Has BM reincarnated or encouraged her younger sister to prod the cranky young men herein?
The issue of learning how to lay down a set is obviously not the real issue here.
This is a femme trying to gain respect/affection by playing with the big boys,
provoking their interest by moulding responses to their diss and probe
gaining ego-gratification by attracting male attention whatever way possible.
It works for me...I'm aroused by a lady seeking help.


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Re: feminine issues in electronic music...

Post by kingGhost » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:59 pm

LACE wrote:fuck off phase, you're more interested in putting BM down then attempting to genuinely rationalize her situation you rude little shit.
tbf i don't think anyone knows what her situation is really

BM i think you would get better responses if you would compose your thoughts in a more reader-friendly format. also, less non sequitur posts and videos would help drive your point home in a more easily discussed manner. i think half your problem in this thread is people are just getting frustrated at your incomprehensible posts and trolling you. i know you won't heed my advice, but there it is anyway.

should people be judged on their skill and merit rather than their looks? sure, but this isn't american idol we're talking about here - it's underground dance music. generally your average person in this scene is more interested in dj skill and track selection than your looks. sure it's male dominated, but i'd say it's much more female-friendly than most other subcultures. lean on your skill and knowledge of music and forget about the aesthetics - if it doesn't matter to you, don't act like it. cause it looks like you're letting it set up shop in your mind already.
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Re: feminine issues in electronic music...

Post by Genevieve » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:26 pm

kingGhost wrote:BM i think you would get better responses if you would compose your thoughts in a more reader-friendly format. also, less non sequitur posts and videos would help drive your point home in a more easily discussed manner. i think half your problem in this thread is people are just getting frustrated at your incomprehensible posts and trolling you. i know you won't heed my advice, but there it is anyway.
I always thought her random posts are her halfway attempts at expressing her anxieties/fears/emotions, but she feels like it puts her in a vulnerable position. So she wants to have her cake and eat it too; she SORT OF expresses her emotions, but does it so abstractly that she can deny it. But when people get annoyed with her abstraction, she plays the victim card and acts like it's entirely their fault, as if they're just randomly attacking her for expressing her thoughts (which like I mentioned before, she isn't).

She gets a lot of unnecesary flack at times, but she's completely unwilling to do anything about it. Everything is a two-way street. The moment you deny that, your putting yourself in a position of powerlessness.
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Re: feminine issues in electronic music...

Post by magma » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:37 pm

I've just re-read all the first page because I'm worried this has gone down an unconstructive route, but I think kingGhost kind of nails it above.

On the first page you appear to ask (apologies if I've misunderstood - the posts are kind of difficult to read) if it's "ok" to approach a guy in a club and ask if he DJs because you'd like someone to practise with and whether you'd need to have sex on the table as part of starting a relationship of this type. Let's just look at those two things.

a) Is it normal? Well, not really. It's certainly normal to talk to strangers in clubs and try to make new friends. It's not that normal to open the conversation with your desire to find someone with a shared niche interest that is also willing to sign up on the spot to meeting you every week to practise spinning records. Maybe ask what their name is and what sort of music they're into first. If you only want to meet potential DJ partners the club isn't the best place to try - make use of the Internet. It's amazing. I've done collaborations with girls and boys I've never even met in real life because of these computerised doobreys. If someone approached me and asked me flat out "Do you DJ because I need someone to practise with." I'd think they were a bit strange, but if someone said "Hello, I'm Lesley", I'd say "Hello, I'm Simon" and sometime within the ensuing conversation the fact that we were both bedroom DJs would probably come up fairly naturally. If it was a girl that'd been staring at me across the dancefloor for several months without saying hello, I'd probably run away worrying about whether she was going to follow me home. Just be.... cool... say hello. You don't need to think any further than that.

b) Does Sex have to be on the table? No, of course it doesn't. My friendship group is around 40% female and 60% male, but I see my female friends *much* more than male and two of my four closest, longest standing friends are female. My DJ partner is also female. She doesn't sleep around, doesn't dress provocatively in the slightest and earns a living researching LASERs in a darkened, underground lab - hardly the pornified vacuous slut that you seem to think runs the female world... she doesn't even drink. We met in the smoking area of a noise gig in Bristol where we got talking about quantum physics and rap music... the idea of DJing together only really came up several years into our friendship (see point a about not opening with "HEY, DO YOU WANT TO DJ WITH ME?").

I would be lying through my teeth if I said the thought of sex had never crossed my mind, in fact it did the first evening I ever met her... but I'd also be lying if I said I'd ever had close to the guts required to jeopardise the most important friendship in my life for an hour of carnal pleasure. Guys are able to put things into perspective too, you know.

Sex is never a given and the balance of power to decide whether it's on the table often lies with the woman. Most guys will assume they're in the friend zone until they're told otherwise and unless clear signs are given that a girl is interested, we'll be content with our lot and chase other girls whilst maintaining our platonic friendships. Yes, most guys will have at least considered the idea of sex with almost every girl they know - but that doesn't mean we allow the relationships to be governed by it. The Friend Zone is a well trodden stomping ground - we're all very comfortable within it.
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Post by garethom » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:43 pm

magma wrote:but I'd also be lying if I said I'd ever had close to the guts required to jeopardise the most important friendship in my life for an hour of carnal pleasure.
u mad bro?










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Re: feminine issues in electronic music...

Post by magma » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:46 pm

garethom wrote:
magma wrote:but I'd also be lying if I said I'd ever had close to the guts required to jeopardise the most important friendship in my life for an hour of carnal pleasure.
u mad bro?










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.... little bit. :i: :lol:
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Post by garethom » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:54 pm

Defo worth it magma, you vacuous slut. :lol:

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Re: feminine issues in electronic music...

Post by Electric_Head » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:57 pm

Nah dude, she works with LAZERS.
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Re: feminine issues in electronic music...

Post by magma » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:02 pm

Shaaaattap. I'm happily boo'd up and she's terrible at dating because she's too busy winning at life... we'd drive each other completely mental and then I'd have nobody to finish my meals for me! :lol:
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Re: feminine issues in electronic music...

Post by LACE » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:41 pm

kingGhost wrote:
LACE wrote:fuck off phase, you're more interested in putting BM down then attempting to genuinely rationalize her situation you rude little shit.
tbf i don't think anyone knows what her situation is really

BM i think you would get better responses if you would compose your thoughts in a more reader-friendly format. also, less non sequitur posts and videos would help drive your point home in a more easily discussed manner. i think half your problem in this thread is people are just getting frustrated at your incomprehensible posts and trolling you. i know you won't heed my advice, but there it is anyway.

should people be judged on their skill and merit rather than their looks? sure, but this isn't american idol we're talking about here - it's underground dance music. generally your average person in this scene is more interested in dj skill and track selection than your looks. sure it's male dominated, but i'd say it's much more female-friendly than most other subcultures. lean on your skill and knowledge of music and forget about the aesthetics - if it doesn't matter to you, don't act like it. cause it looks like you're letting it set up shop in your mind already.
no, and to be completely honest i have a difficult time trying to decipher her posts just as much as the next guy. her threads take on this evolutionary cycle, and you're never really talking about the original post but a multitude of subjects. i don't even know where to begin, but still attempting to give some feedback... out to magma for being the saving grace. =)
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Re: feminine issues in electronic music...

Post by Phase Down » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:44 pm

LACE wrote:fuck off phase, you're more interested in putting BM down then attempting to genuinely rationalize her situation you rude little shit.
My interests are unrelevant, BM however needs to grow up :roll: her situation..... what the fuck is the situation? A fucking sad one is all I can make up from it.

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Re: feminine issues in electronic music...

Post by Terpit » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:45 pm

Phase Down wrote:
LACE wrote:fuck off phase, you're more interested in putting BM down then attempting to genuinely rationalize her situation you rude little shit.
My interests are unrelevant, BM however needs to grow up :roll: her situation..... what the fuck is the situation? A fucking sad one is all I can make up from it.
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Re: feminine issues in electronic music...

Post by Phase Down » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:48 pm

My apologies for seeming so nasty like

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Re: feminine issues in electronic music...

Post by lovelydivot » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:17 pm

The "approach a man in a club" scenario was a hypothetical one - I was hoping the role play would get people thinking...

The original intention of this post was to see what you guys perceive to be a feminine issue as far the music scene is concerned.

Everyone knows women can do it and very well...The question is why aren't there more



Maybe it's different here in america where popularity and ego are just off the charts..

Lot's of arrogant kids here.


and yet - some are just fronting...I wish I could break that self-defense wall down.

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Re: feminine issues in electronic music...

Post by lovelydivot » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:35 pm

sometimes I need musical interludes to lighten things up

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Post by abelard » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:32 pm

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Re: feminine issues in electronic music...

Post by Today » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:45 pm

dude there is no social construct that coerces females away from doing any DJing... you do the same damn thing everyone else does -- practice spinning on your own.. talk to the friends you already have, you probably have some mutual friend somewhere who spins and is into jungle too, or whatever the case may be.


you start getting together weekly or so, and stream your sets across face book. if you get good enough and people like your taste, you end up becoming a DJ
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