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DRTY wrote:people thinking they're important/significant

magma wrote:

DRTY wrote:people thinking they're important/significant

This... or at least the belief/feeling that some are more important or significant than others.

Riddles wrote:

magma wrote:

DRTY wrote:people thinking they're important/significant

This... or at least the belief/feeling that some are more important or significant than others.

everyone is the protagonist.

DiegoSapiens wrote:

Laszlo wrote:

DiegoSapiens wrote:

Laszlo wrote:So suffering isn't bad..

cmon laszlo you are just playing with language. as i said is bad for the one that is suffering but thanks to that suffering some other is enjoying, it´s a cycle in wich we have to assume that sometimes we have to suffer.

It may seem like i'm playing with language but i'm just trying to get to the bottom of your philosophy. Exactitude is important for my understanding but I think we've got there now.

Actually that's a lie but it's far to complicated so..


1. All existence is dukkha. The word dukkha has been variously translated as ‘suffering’, ‘anguish’, ‘pain’, or ‘unsatisfactoriness’. The Buddha’s insight was that our lives are a struggle, and we do not find ultimate happiness or satisfaction in anything we experience. This is the problem of existence.

2. The cause of dukkha is craving. The natural human tendency is to blame our difficulties on things outside ourselves. But the Buddha says that their actual root is to be found in the mind itself. In particular our tendency to grasp at things (or alternatively to push them away) places us fundamentally at odds with the way life really is.

3. The cessation of dukkha comes with the cessation of craving. As we are the ultimate cause of our difficulties, we are also the solution. We cannot change the things that happen to us, but we can change our responses.

4. There is a path that leads from dukkha. Although the Buddha throws responsibility back on to the individual he also taught methods through which we can change ourselves, for example the Noble Eightfold Path.

i highly respect buddhist because if they are tru heads they don´t bother anyone but i don´t agree with their philosophy at all, in fact is tthe same fail of permanent and transient that i quoted from you before: they don´t accept a transient happiness they want a

ultimate happiness or satisfaction in anything we experience.

then they say that life is equal to suffering etc but then why not comiting suicide? noooooo! because they want the promised Nirvana, the magic place out of this changing world where they will find; inmortality, ultimate happiness or satisfaction in anything we experience and perfect equillibrium = all permanent things

Laszlo wrote:

DiegoSapiens wrote:

Laszlo wrote:

DiegoSapiens wrote:

Laszlo wrote:So suffering isn't bad..

cmon laszlo you are just playing with language. as i said is bad for the one that is suffering but thanks to that suffering some other is enjoying, it´s a cycle in wich we have to assume that sometimes we have to suffer.

It may seem like i'm playing with language but i'm just trying to get to the bottom of your philosophy. Exactitude is important for my understanding but I think we've got there now.

Actually that's a lie but it's far to complicated so..


1. All existence is dukkha. The word dukkha has been variously translated as ‘suffering’, ‘anguish’, ‘pain’, or ‘unsatisfactoriness’. The Buddha’s insight was that our lives are a struggle, and we do not find ultimate happiness or satisfaction in anything we experience. This is the problem of existence.

2. The cause of dukkha is craving. The natural human tendency is to blame our difficulties on things outside ourselves. But the Buddha says that their actual root is to be found in the mind itself. In particular our tendency to grasp at things (or alternatively to push them away) places us fundamentally at odds with the way life really is.

3. The cessation of dukkha comes with the cessation of craving. As we are the ultimate cause of our difficulties, we are also the solution. We cannot change the things that happen to us, but we can change our responses.

4. There is a path that leads from dukkha. Although the Buddha throws responsibility back on to the individual he also taught methods through which we can change ourselves, for example the Noble Eightfold Path.

i highly respect buddhist because if they are tru heads they don´t bother anyone but i don´t agree with their philosophy at all, in fact is tthe same fail of permanent and transient that i quoted from you before: they don´t accept a transient happiness they want a

ultimate happiness or satisfaction in anything we experience.

then they say that life is equal to suffering etc but then why not comiting suicide? noooooo! because they want the promised Nirvana, the magic place out of this changing world where they will find; inmortality, ultimate happiness or satisfaction in anything we experience and perfect equillibrium = all permanent things

You have misunderstood Buddhist philosophy pretty badly.

kidshuffle wrote:I'd like to know how many of you now negative nancys are middle class.

wub wrote:In your opinion.

m8son wrote:

kidshuffle wrote:I'd like to know how many of you now negative nancys are middle class.

Whats that got to do with anything?

Laszlo wrote:You have misunderstood 'ultimate happiness'.
not needing anything material
You have taken "ultimate happiness or satisfaction in anything we experience" out of the context of the rest of the sentence.
really? i dont see how The Buddha’s insight was that our lives are a struggle, and we do not find ultimate happiness or satisfaction in anything we experience i was saying that they looked for and ultimate happiness because residuant happiness wasn´t enough
Nirvana isn't a place.
i know is a state of mind, but its not in our body that is the place were we live so is like a metaplace, like platon ideal world ....
They don't believe in immortality.
What i have read is that you keep reencarnating in differents level of the samsar until you reach the last one: nirvana wich is the perfect place where corruption didn´t exist

PinUp wrote:IMO the biggest problem is greed, whether it's greed for power, money, oil, whatever.

Greed is the deadliest of all the sins.

Marcus wrote:

PinUp wrote:IMO the biggest problem is greed, whether it's greed for power, money, oil, whatever.

Greed is the deadliest of all the sins.

Pretty much came here to post this.

magma wrote:

Marcus wrote:

PinUp wrote:IMO the biggest problem is greed, whether it's greed for power, money, oil, whatever.

Greed is the deadliest of all the sins.

Pretty much came here to post this.

But what about all the wonderful things individuals achieve and invent because of greed? The profit motive is a powerful incentive, it just has to be harnessed carefully so it doesn't run out of control.

DiegoSapiens wrote:do you recomend me any book/ web article?