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Re: Nina Kraviz

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:01 pm
by m8son666
yh but tbf he was too busy getting pegged to produce his own tunes

Re: Nina Kraviz

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:31 pm
by jrkhnds
tbh I wouldn't mind too much if the one working with the ghost producer / engineer is open about it.

Re: Nina Kraviz

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:53 pm
by ultraspatial
i'd love to work with a ghost producer tbh cause i got all these ideas but i find the actual process really boring and a bit frustrating

Re: Nina Kraviz

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:34 am
by AxeD
If the music has any artistic value it is produced by the artist, not someone paid to do it for him.
That's basically taking music, stripping it down to bullshit and then trying to sell it to people.

The process is the music imo.

Re: Nina Kraviz

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:36 am
by skimpi
m8son wrote:Any of you heard of hannah wants? apparently she gets all her tracks ghost produced by chris lorenzo
birmingham's finest

Re: Nina Kraviz

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:40 am
by jrkhnds
AxeD wrote:If the music has any artistic value it is produced by the artist, not someone paid to do it for him.
That's basically taking music, stripping it down to bullshit and then trying to sell it to people.

The process is the music imo.
so what about two mates sitting together, one's got the technical skill, the other one's the musical talent?

Re: Nina Kraviz

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:10 am
by ultraspatial
yeah i didn't say no input what so ever. and if the person is a mate or someone paid is irrelevant imo

also lol @ "artistic value". maybe i just want bait club bangers

Re: Nina Kraviz

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:26 am
by Lye_Form
ultraspatial wrote:yeah i didn't say no input what so ever. and if the person is a mate or someone paid is irrelevant imo

also lol @ "artistic value". maybe i just want bait club bangers
Big up the bait club banger mandem

Re: Nina Kraviz

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:55 am
by garethom
m8son wrote:yh but tbf he was too busy getting pegged to produce his own tunes
Pistons doesn't produce his own tunes?

Re: Nina Kraviz

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:49 am
by particle-jim
garethom wrote:
m8son wrote:yh but tbf he was too busy getting pegged to produce his own tunes
Pistons doesn't produce his own tunes?
I was always under the impression that he made the tunes with a mate and has always been quite open about it

http://hedmuk.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/fe ... neath.html
"I make the tunes with a friend of mine, we have setups at both of our places. We've both been messing around with music independently since we were young, but we started making a few tunes around 2005/6 when I showed him dubstep. We've been getting a bit more serious over the last 18 months, trying to bring the production up to par and were going to start sticking out some tunes under my alias Pistonsbeneath, sort of the way Goldie and Rob Playford worked: he just likes to sit at the computer making the beats with me and doesn't like to be on the radar, while I'm more the public face and the DJ."
I remember there was a bit of controversy on here about it though and somone saying that may not be the full story so idk really

Re: Nina Kraviz

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:01 am
by m8son666
skimpi wrote:
m8son wrote:Any of you heard of hannah wants? apparently she gets all her tracks ghost produced by chris lorenzo
birmingham's finest
loool

yh i think pistons just does it with a m8 and that guy on here he seemed to know always called him out on it :lol:

Also with the two guys one with technical skill and the other with musical skill scenario. Unless the one with technical skill has a direct link to the other guys brain he will be doing 90% of the work with the other guy going duuh can u ad sum hatz pls

Re: Nina Kraviz

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:48 am
by Harkat
I wonder about that too yeah

Like, does Goldie write exactly how the breaks are chopped up? The melodies? Or does he just broadly direct it, like "yeah I want this bit to have a synth stab".

Re: Nina Kraviz

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:03 am
by AxeD
If you want bait music you might as well listen to some Nina Kraviz music.

Re: Nina Kraviz

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:27 am
by ultraspatial
AxeD wrote:If you want bait music you might as well listen to some Nina Kraviz music.
difference between listening to shit and making shit

Re: Nina Kraviz

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:30 am
by ultraspatial
m8son wrote:
skimpi wrote:
m8son wrote:Any of you heard of hannah wants? apparently she gets all her tracks ghost produced by chris lorenzo
birmingham's finest
loool

yh i think pistons just does it with a m8 and that guy on here he seemed to know always called him out on it :lol:

Also with the two guys one with technical skill and the other with musical skill scenario. Unless the one with technical skill has a direct link to the other guys brain he will be doing 90% of the work with the other guy going duuh can u ad sum hatz pls
and what's wrong with that? :lol:

then you can focus more on the djing aspect aka showing up drunk with a semi pre mixed set so you can drink some more, do coke and hit on barely legals

that's the ideal career imo tbh

Re: Nina Kraviz

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:10 pm
by Genevieve
AxeD wrote:If the music has any artistic value it is produced by the artist, not someone paid to do it for him.
That's basically taking music, stripping it down to bullshit and then trying to sell it to people.

The process is the music imo.
If you were to hear an amazing tune, best tune in the world at a night out. Rinsed it to death, copped it twice on vinyl, etc. Would it then sound less good if you heard 6 months later that it was ghost produced?

Re: Nina Kraviz

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:15 pm
by garethom
No, but you might have less respect for the guy who put his name to it.

Re: Nina Kraviz

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:22 pm
by Genevieve
garethom wrote:No, but you might have less respect for the guy who put his name to it.
That's not relevant to the sound of the music, though.

Re: Nina Kraviz

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:53 pm
by hubb
Ultraspatial

we could do a comp

you write what the track sounds like and what it has to do

and then critique and decide on the submissions.

:lol:

Re: Nina Kraviz

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:56 pm
by hubb
Genevieve wrote:
garethom wrote:No, but you might have less respect for the guy who put his name to it.
That's not relevant to the sound of the music, though.

Ocfourse it is, to be able to take in stuff, we take it in with our heads. A head is filled with stuff that gets in the way of that.