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Got my copy today and oh my god this is stupid! from start to finish they completely smashed it! wow bigup caspa and rusko for doin this!

dont think the mixing is as gud as the skream compilation on rinse, maybe harder tunes to mix..?

still utterly enjoyable though

Got myself a free, signed copy of this album at the CASPA gig in Auckland last Friday. Big Up CASPA & DirtyCash for a wicked night & the CD.

My thoughts on the CD... Got some BIG tunes on there. Beginning & end are a little... up in the air on the mixing & choice of tracks but the middle section takes me back to the madness of Friday night.

Over all definitely worth a listen.

It's not meant to be a "journey". I've talked to both Caspa and Rusko about this and they're happy (I hope I'm not putting words into their mouths too much) that the whole thing is exactly what it sounds like: a high-velocity introduction to the jump-up end of dubstep. Both of them will go all round the houses in a club set, from deep and moody to loopy anthems, but on this one they slammed together big, big tunes as quick as possible and I think it really works on exactly that level, and shows that dubstep can do a pure dancefloor rush as well as any other sound. As I said before on other threads, dubstep's big enough and elastic enough to take everything from Burial and Geiom to this. Not everything has to be a deep meditation! Plus I have a feeling it could reach out to a lot of people outside the scene, and if that gets artists paid then good news all round.

Bigups to Caspa n Ruskie! I got this form Skeeze as a crimbo present n in the bigups bit we got a bigup!

Joe Muggs wrote:Not everything has to be a deep meditation!

No, not everything has to be a deep meditation, but increasingly any mellow elements are getting lost, or at least sidelined. Diversity is good, from smash-it to introspective, but as a proportion, 2007's seen way too much wobble/anthems/smashing-it.

So here's to dubstep taking the big stage in 2008 and actually being different from other forms of urban/dance music, in it's ability to take risks with scale.

Blackdown wrote:

Joe Muggs wrote:Not everything has to be a deep meditation!

No, not everything has to be a deep meditation, but increasingly any mellow elements are getting lost, or at least sidelined. Diversity is good, from smash-it to introspective, but as a proportion, 2007's seen way too much wobble/anthems/smashing-it.

So here's to dubstep taking the big stage in 2008 and actually being different from other forms of urban/dance music, in it's ability to take risks with scale.

I'm hoping this shouldnt be a problem. Too many good producers wanting to do their own thing. I can see the more minimal techno / house influenced stuff getting big next year what with albums from 2562 and the Dubstep Allstars Mix from Appleblim.

Blackdown wrote:2007's seen way too much wobble/anthems/smashing-it.

This sums up how I am feeling about Dubstep in general this year too.

Sad to see crowds not fully appreciating the craft of say Cyrus or Youngsta sets up here in Newcastle yet goin instantly tits when Cockney Thug gets smashed.

Big up Blackdown for the The Bitz record, refreshingly meditative music

Blackdown wrote:

Joe Muggs wrote:Not everything has to be a deep meditation!

No, not everything has to be a deep meditation, but increasingly any mellow elements are getting lost, or at least sidelined. Diversity is good, from smash-it to introspective, but as a proportion, 2007's seen way too much wobble/anthems/smashing-it.

So here's to dubstep taking the big stage in 2008 and actually being different from other forms of urban/dance music, in it's ability to take risks with scale.

I have a theory on this.... i reckon its the smoking ban

Ive hardly heard any meditative sets since the ban... most dj's just play the bangers. any deeper tracks people get bored and go out for a smoke. If punters could still get stoned inna dance still, then dancefloors would be much more receptive to deeper sets imo (and as a result more deep tunes would be written)

07 has been pretty boring dubstep-wise imo. Still excellent music being produced but much harder to find amongst the tidal wave of copycat shite that's dominated.

It might be selling units in 2007 but dubstep has been pretty uninspiring in general this year

The 'old guard' still running tings imo... that's where most of the best beats are still coming from (bar a few notable exceptions)

Here here Blackdown, lets hope 08 is much more interesting.

thanks bro

Dub boy wrote:I have a theory on this.... i reckon its the smoking ban

any deeper tracks people get bored and go out for a smoke.

Nail
On
Head

Thats certainly one factor that I was just ruminating on myself there

i pretty much agree with everything thats already been said.


its a cd of bangers but the mixing lets it down and so instead of an great cd its just a good cd.

It's monotonously one dimensional to a level that it's almost unlistenable as a complete album. If I wanted to listen to music as void of light, shade and feeling as this I'd be listening to breakbeat.

Love Caspa. Love Rusko. Love a lot of the tunes in this mix but as a whole it's shit.

i think it does what it does

you need to be in the right mood to get into it i reckon

i didnt expect geiom, bass clef, gravious & dz tunes:P

done A LOT at zavvi croydon thanks to ME blasting it when duty manager

Dub boy wrote:

Blackdown wrote:

Joe Muggs wrote:Not everything has to be a deep meditation!

No, not everything has to be a deep meditation, but increasingly any mellow elements are getting lost, or at least sidelined. Diversity is good, from smash-it to introspective, but as a proportion, 2007's seen way too much wobble/anthems/smashing-it.

So here's to dubstep taking the big stage in 2008 and actually being different from other forms of urban/dance music, in it's ability to take risks with scale.

I have a theory on this.... i reckon its the smoking ban

Ive hardly heard any meditative sets since the ban... most dj's just play the bangers. any deeper tracks people get bored and go out for a smoke. If punters could still get stoned inna dance still, then dancefloors would be much more receptive to deeper sets imo (and as a result more deep tunes would be written)

07 has been pretty boring dubstep-wise imo. Still excellent music being produced but much harder to find amongst the tidal wave of copycat shite that's dominated.

It might be selling units in 2007 but dubstep has been pretty uninspiring in general this year

The 'old guard' still running tings imo... that's where most of the best beats are still coming from (bar a few notable exceptions)

Here here Blackdown, lets hope 08 is much more interesting.

Some very good points from both here. I absolutely agree that in terms of what DJs feel they can play there's definitely been a narrowing of focus (although remember that 2007 was a year when "anthem" is a term that can include something like 'Skeng' or 'Alicia' which for me are both truly deep tunes), and I agree that the smoking ban is almost certainly a contributing factor to that (yet another reason why illegal raves need to be worked hard on!!)... having spoken to the DJs specifically about the manic expansion and pace of this year, I do think that pace is another vital thing - the dominance of smash-it tunes reflects the excitement and explosion of the sound, and the non-stop schedule that the DJs are on, it's almost like people feel they need the in-your-face upbeat thing to maintain the pace of 2007.

On the actual production front, there's probably just as many really special deep tunes that you can get lost in - whether on wax or floating around the digital realm - but as you rightly say, they do get a bit swamped by the functional tunes if you don't keep tabs on what's there. As someone who probably listens to dubstep tunes at home or on headphones more than in clubs, I know I've got sacks of amazing stuff to treasure this year.

2008 will be interesting for sure. It should see a lot more artist albums, which naturally will see people go out on a limb musically (as Pinch and Geiom have shown this year). Hoping the increase of foreign outposts will produce some interesting variations - have heard really deep tracks from L.A., Bucharest, Helsinki and Brussels this year. The "techno thing" (Peverelist, 2562, Hessle Audio's stuff etc) is going to keep developing interestingly. And I think the originators are going to have pause for thought; is the workload and constant travel going to sap their creativity or add to it? I'm sure for the majority there is enough thoughtfulness and knowledge of self for it to be the latter.

Well, I havent actually listened to this (cant see myself buying it tbh ) so trying to reserve judgement, but I think it looks...shit in all honesty

Caspa and rusko keep making these absurd tunes, that I keep telling myself are just them taking the piss a bit, but...they just keep on making em I do know though that as much as anyone else, when one of these gets dropped on a fat soundsystem, to a crowd going nuts im going to do nothing short of shock right out me shoes, but I think thats about my limit (one tune!) what is pretty much a whole CD of ridiculous, take the piss, rinse out bangers I think sounds horrifying Bit of a bummer too that what is probably the biggest album release for dubstep yet in terms of the high profile of the fabriclive CDs has as little variation as this.

Still, on the other hand, rusko and caspa will have been trying to put together a CD of jump-up style rinsin tunes, and lets be honest no-one else could touch what theyve done with it! What it is isnt for me, but is darn impressive nonetheless!

Tomity wrote: I'm hoping this shouldnt be a problem. Too many good producers wanting to do their own thing. I can see the more minimal techno / house influenced stuff getting big next year what with albums from 2562 and the Dubstep Allstars Mix from Appleblim.

Here's hoping. I caught Pinch a few months back & his techy style surprised quite a few people down here in NZ. I think people have a lot of time for the techy/minimal side of dub step. We still all enjoy the jump up bangers that caspa & co put out but there's a deeper side to most people even if they don't know it yet.

I had this in my hand the other day but the funds didn't allow for the purchase, next time eh! I've heard it's a banger though.

At least I got the new Burial album!

I like this CD.
Especially

Rusko - Mr Chips
Cotti and Cluekid - The Legacy
Caspa - The Terminator

First off, when the fuck is The Terminator being released? Caspa, you hero.

Good CD, some absolute banging stonkers! But the mixing is poor. Kinda sounds like it was a live set that they recorded. I would've thought they could've brushed up on the mixing given that it was a Fabric mix. Still, a damn good listen. Surprised that Noise Disorganiser wasn't on it though.

Looking forward to this Appleblim Dubstep Allstars mix!