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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:39 am
by dr ddd
bellybelle wrote:
Delendi wrote:we forget that we're animals whose purpose is to reproduce. just like lions and reindeer we look for the strongest, healthiest partner because it's in our reproductive mindset to make strong healthy babies. even coming down to things like teeth... wonky teeth get food stuck in, making teeth rot, making them fall out, making eating hard and the owner of the no-more teeth become dependant on others (in back to nature times, before dentures). we subconsciously want a strong bloodline the same as animals do. it's all a big old courtship ritual, confused by relationships.

I guess...but wouldn't that mean that men would choose women who had a higher hip to waist ratio than whats more popular now? I mean, as much as we are partially programmed by biology, we also can't ignore the rapid changes in standards of beauty for women. In the 1970's, women were curvier, bustier, softly shaped and yadda yadda. If you look at the women who were "gorgeous" just 20-30 yrs ago and compare them to today's women, they are average nowadays. I loved that thread about the Original Hottie Gyal, because those ladies are absolutely beautiful, but I also know that quite a few of those gorgeous ladies would be passed over and made to do Camryn Manheim best friend roles to the hot girl roles in movies.

Shame really. If good ladies and gents could just find each other and leave the shallow, vapid people to their own, this wouldn't be much of a problem. Good girls and good guys can find decent people and not spend their time wondering why things aren't workin' out...

Hear hear!

Thank GOD real people arent always how the media would have us believe, I say. The world would be a seriously boring place if everyone was attracted to the same thing to be honest - not to mention the lack of genetic diversity would grind the entire evolutionary process to a halt.

The way images and looks are pushed in the media is unrealistic - some group of people in a room basically deciding what everyone should like this year and that's what people should aspire to. As technology develops, the images that are fed are often surgically induced or given a quick sortout with photoshop. It's human nature to compete/compare themselves by certain standards. If those standards happen to be purely on looks, it's no wonder there's so many issues as people try to compare themselves on a daily basis with a package that has probably spent 2hours in makeup, had a few nips and tucks, had their zits photoshopped out and doesn't actually have anything to do all day except produce an image accordingly (i am generalising). That's their job. It's a billion dollar industry that doesnt mess about in staying that way. (NB: this isn't exclusively a female issue - guys are constantly fed an image of six packs and material wealth as a sign of success). Fortunately, what is forcefed in the media doesn't always correspond to everyone's idea of their personal "strongest" or "fittest".

Personally I'd rather spend any length of quality time with positive people that make me laugh and I can chill out/ be comfortable and have a decent conversation with. If someone choses not to be interested (as a friend or anything more) in me purely because of how I look, that's their choice and their right - but I cant imagine it would have ever been a very productive relationship on that basis. It can be upsetting or affects one's confidence if you see that as the only sign of your worth.


On the subject of this thread, I am the total opposite- the second I realise a guy may be attached- it's just fundamentally a no go area.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:28 pm
by MissBrass
TheEvilGirl wrote:
missbrass wrote:
Diss04 wrote:
missbrass wrote:
TheEvilGirl wrote:Fuck Guys.....I just wanna dance.
alright, whitney houston.
:lol:
pardon me, she wants to feel the heat with somebody as well.
LMAO! Have you been praying for me?!
girl please, you were doing better than me. I needed my own prayers lol

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:23 pm
by ozols man
hahahahaha vonboyage u joker. lets just multiple women have come into my life at a single moment only for me not being able to comprehend the situation and "keep it moving"... LOOOL!

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:11 pm
by concept_
Interesting, universal thread. One of the best in the SNH of recent..no beef or sillyness just good discussion and banter :)
missbrass wrote: haha...well, when we met, we hit it off, but never quite in THAT way. He's been around long enough to see me with about 3 boyfriends, and I 've been around long enough to see him with a bunch hos.
And when we hang out, he's always asking for advice on his females and shit. So yeah, maybe one day he wanted to, but I highly doubt thats the case.
I have this with some of my female friends, who are strictly friends, and if it was a relationship (some of them are hot and if i wasn't a friend...) it would be very brother and sisterish and fucking wierd so id never even consider it. It's wierd that though cos it is as if you'd be a really good couple due to similar interests and understanding one another, but a "relationship" of a sexual nature, which all boyfriend/girlfriend relationships are, is so so different to a relationship between friends and it changes everything between 2 people and normally ends in a bad way which is shit.

I think both men and women do far too much stereotyping judging on first impressions to really understand the other sex. For instance, seems the general concensus here is that women generally think all that men want to do is shag and all men think women do is fuck about and play games etc. It is a wierd and in some ways wonderful understanding of one another but it makes real, stable relationships hard to form and sustain which is a shame :(

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:17 pm
by theevilgirl
concept_ wrote:Interesting, universal thread. One of the best in the SNH of recent..no beef or sillyness just good discussion and banter :)
missbrass wrote: haha...well, when we met, we hit it off, but never quite in THAT way. He's been around long enough to see me with about 3 boyfriends, and I 've been around long enough to see him with a bunch hos.
And when we hang out, he's always asking for advice on his females and shit. So yeah, maybe one day he wanted to, but I highly doubt thats the case.
I have this with some of my female friends, who are strictly friends, and if it was a relationship (some of them are hot and if i wasn't a friend...) it would be very brother and sisterish and fucking wierd so id never even consider it. It's wierd that though cos it is as if you'd be a really good couple due to similar interests and understanding one another, but a "relationship" of a sexual nature, which all boyfriend/girlfriend relationships are, is so so different to a relationship between friends and it changes everything between 2 people and normally ends in a bad way which is shit.

I think both men and women do far too much stereotyping judging on first impressions to really understand the other sex. For instance, seems the general concensus here is that women generally think all that men want to do is shag and all men think women do is fuck about and play games etc. It is a wierd and in some ways wonderful understanding of one another but it makes real, stable relationships hard to form and sustain which is a shame :(
i think its that fear of 'losing a friendship' that people need to overcome. seriously...its like we are great friends, and if we are attracted to eachother why not take it to the next level. If you feel its worth it, try it out. If the feeling is mutual go for it, and if it doesnt work out...so be it.

I have come clean to a few friends and even tho it didnt go farther cuz they didnt wanna ruin the friendship....i felt better and i knew that i wasnt wasting my time feeling something for this person that didnt have feelings for me....

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:20 pm
by datura
Delendi wrote:we forget that we're animals whose purpose is to reproduce. just like lions and reindeer we look for the strongest, healthiest partner because it's in our reproductive mindset to make strong healthy babies. even coming down to things like teeth... wonky teeth get food stuck in, making teeth rot, making them fall out, making eating hard and the owner of the no-more teeth become dependant on others (in back to nature times, before dentures). we subconsciously want a strong bloodline the same as animals do. it's all a big old courtship ritual, confused by relationships.
I agree to a point, however we are different to animals ina lot of ways, not the least in that in the animal kingdom the male is the flamboyant, extravagantly coloured one to attract mates, whereasis the reverse in humans for the most part.

Also, people can find humour, intelligence etc more important than looks, strength etc.

I find myself more attracted to personality than looks, although obviously looks are what you notice first.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:28 pm
by MissBrass
i see where you're ocming from....i mean, evil girl has tried to shag me several times. Becuase we're such good friends, I never gave in.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:24 pm
by theevilgirl
she cant keep her hands off my tits.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:50 pm
by MissBrass
TheEvilGirl wrote:she cant keep her hands off my tits.
just wait til my nails dry off and you're done lacin' your sneakers up.
its oooon.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:36 pm
by delendi
datura wrote:
Delendi wrote:we forget that we're animals whose purpose is to reproduce. just like lions and reindeer we look for the strongest, healthiest partner because it's in our reproductive mindset to make strong healthy babies. even coming down to things like teeth... wonky teeth get food stuck in, making teeth rot, making them fall out, making eating hard and the owner of the no-more teeth become dependant on others (in back to nature times, before dentures). we subconsciously want a strong bloodline the same as animals do. it's all a big old courtship ritual, confused by relationships.
I agree to a point, however we are different to animals ina lot of ways, not the least in that in the animal kingdom the male is the flamboyant, extravagantly coloured one to attract mates, whereasis the reverse in humans for the most part.
really? sports car, slick suit, nice shoes etc... men who can afford to actually surround themselves with woman-attracting things. they put on as much of a display as birds of paradise.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:39 pm
by shonky
Delendi wrote: really? sports car, slick suit, nice shoes etc... men who can afford to actually surround themselves with woman-attracting things. they put on as much of a display as birds of paradise.
And then mate with superficial fuckwits creating the next generation of superficial fuckwits

I'm only saying that cause I'm so FAIL in that case.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:40 pm
by djelements
Yeah, I attempt to stay fresh, clothingwise and armpitwise.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:57 pm
by corpsey
Basically- girls want you if they can't have you, so long as someone else has you, because it appears that if someone else has you then you are worth having. Just as having loads of money/big muscular arms/a fifteen inch wide dick makes you seem worth having. If you're single then there's a question over whether or not you are worthy of having a girlfriend, if you have a girlfriend the question is (to an extent) answered.

Am I right?

OR YAM I YIGHT?

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:00 pm
by djelements
Corpsey wrote:Basically- girls want you if they can't have you, so long as someone else has you, because it appears that if someone else has you then you are worth having. Just as having loads of money/big muscular arms/a fifteen inch wide dick makes you seem worth having. If you're single then there's a question over whether or not you are worthy of having a girlfriend, if you have a girlfriend the question is (to an extent) answered.

Am I right?

OR YAM I YIGHT?
You're a tnuc.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:02 pm
by corpsey
Thanks baby

Now go and get me a beer and I might think about buying you dinner

*slaps DJ Elements bottom lasciviously*

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:03 pm
by djelements
Corpsey wrote:Thanks baby

Now go and get me a beer and I might think about buying you dinner

*slaps DJ Elements bottom lasciviously*
Rawr.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:18 pm
by corpsey
Image

Hallo

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:55 pm
by datura
Delendi wrote:really? sports car, slick suit, nice shoes etc... men who can afford to actually surround themselves with woman-attracting things. they put on as much of a display as birds of paradise.
Some may do, but that's hardly the majority and it is just an outward display of wealth which I mentioned.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:01 pm
by delendi
datura wrote:
Delendi wrote:really? sports car, slick suit, nice shoes etc... men who can afford to actually surround themselves with woman-attracting things. they put on as much of a display as birds of paradise.
Some may do, but that's hardly the majority and it is just an outward display of wealth which I mentioned.
it's not the majority because the majority don't have those things available. all men doll themselves up to attract femmes. chavy girls don't need to see a sports car to be attracted tho... a bit of paul smith cologne and a sosvereign ring will do it. girls don't doll up to attract a mate, they doll up to feel good about themselves by seeing blokes stare and girls scowl.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:16 pm
by datura
Delendi wrote:it's not the majority because the majority don't have those things available. all men doll themselves up to attract femmes. chavy girls don't need to see a sports car to be attracted tho... a bit of paul smith cologne and a sosvereign ring will do it. girls don't doll up to attract a mate, they doll up to feel good about themselves by seeing blokes stare and girls scowl.
The point was that women generally wear more colourful clothes, wear make up and jewelery to enhance their appearance etc whereas in the animal kingdom that is more the domain of the male.