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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:18 am
by beatlejuice
i aint quoted shit
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:22 am
by the wiggle baron
beatlejuice wrote:its not an 'up' tune tho is it ?...its still quite 'down' not like current UKFNKY or classic uplifiting house like this...
Well, fair enough if it doesn't do it for you basically, but for my money it is the most uplifting piece of music ive ever heard
Horses for courses!
Shell of light too, especially when listening through the album, is absoloute eyes closed, huge grin business for me!
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:21 pm
by string
The Wiggle Baron wrote:beatlejuice wrote:its not an 'up' tune tho is it ?...its still quite 'down' not like current UKFNKY or classic uplifiting house like this...
Well, fair enough if it doesn't do it for you basically, but for my money it is the most uplifting piece of music ive ever heard
Horses for courses!
Shell of light too, especially when listening through the album, is absoloute eyes closed, huge grin business for me!
Yeah I gotta agree, Shell Of Light is up there with my favourite songs ever.
Actually, Untrue is hands down my favourite album ever,
Burial definitely deserves upmost respect and he's getting it for sure, collaborating with the likes of Goldie, Instra:mental, DBridge is big!
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:53 pm
by mhzoda
beatlejuice wrote:is that burial tune in 4/4 ?... cos if it is then someone needs to roll round will's house and show him where the quantize button is
beatlejuice wrote:oh right...sloppy drums = feeling ?
crackle = ambience ?...not device to mask crap samples
warped vocals = ???
I see what you are getting at, but I can't say that I totally agree (maybe agree a little bit with the misuse of crackle). I know you'd like to point out the ingenuity of burial, but I think he's legit. He probably doesn't know any better in reference to the standards of music, but I do think he knows what beats he wants and that's good enough for me. I enjoy my music being raw and less discrete than what is laid down by the rules of the modern music.
But whatever, to each his own.
God Damn! What is it with that sample? I swear I've heard it everywhere.
To quoteth a video game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7CO4zhx ... L&index=13
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:26 pm
by feral witchchild
Burial's original mix of "U Hurt Me" is pretty damn uplifting in the traditional sense. Though obviously, it still has that undercurrent of melancholia.
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:59 pm
by samueld
Lets be honest guys...burial is a truly great artist whether you like his tunes or not...so to everyone hating on burial..please quit your jibber jabber...and beatlejuice, wat the hell r u on about tht the "average dubsteppa aint too bright"...?
Your on DUBSTEPFORUM.COM! get the hell out if u have so much dislike for this genre, if you dont need dubstep, dubstep certainly dusnt need you! Get off...
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:14 pm
by goonstock
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:47 pm
by seckle
the best part about the people that love to have a go at burial, is that they keep suggesting that he should "learn to use a sequencer" and all this sort of fancypants production babble. my plug ins are better than your plugins and all that. ridiculous....
fucking hilarious too. either you like him or you don't, but don't make yourself look so spastic everytime he puts out a new tune by trying to tear it apart in some attempt to sound superior. burial does his thing very very well, and who gives a fuck if its not pleasing the production elitist crew.
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:59 pm
by selrahc
they both sound good, but 'wolf' gives me the shivers. beautiful.
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:02 pm
by out1
are this tracks produced by burial?
they sound like your average "electronics" production.
only burial beats, but not the burial spirit and what's more important - no burial idea.
and the people are ready to love everything that is made by him.
burial is for me the only valid pop-musician of the new millenium and he probably helped me to survive in my third world country. he is the only producer that was able to speak about his music in terms noone else would. he is a poet.
but "untrue" was already a worrying sign. all this talk about "archangel". what was the whole hype about this track?
there is much talk about "untrue" being the best album ever. clearly not - just listen to his debut album. lot more deeper, harder and in despair.
"burial" was like a black hole, the first wave of people was connecting to it with they whole lifes. then came "untrue" and the second wave, they were impressed by the second album, so they didn't recognise the significance of the first.
i don't really know what happened.
all this delays, cancelled releases. he clearly had the material.
the recent two tracks were also kind of weak.
i really fear there is something wrong with him.
perhaps he should disappear as one of the unnamed producers, he was talking about.
why?
p.s. people still hadn't read all his interviews carefully. had they thought about his ideas and why he had them?
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:10 pm
by beatlejuice
SamuelD wrote:wat the hell r u on about tht the "average dubsteppa aint too bright"...?
Your on DUBSTEPFORUM.COM!
if you dont need dubstep, dubstep certainly dusnt need you!
words to live by. i wish you all the best...
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:13 pm
by asa
Feral Witchchild wrote:Burial's original mix of "U Hurt Me" is pretty damn uplifting in the traditional sense. Though obviously, it still has that undercurrent of melancholia.
It's all about the guitars on that version, uplifting to say the very least
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:39 pm
by jackquinox
Never fails to suprise me 50% of people spend all there time being Guardian journalists and roving their critical eye over burials work the other 50% try and copy burials work in their own productions, we should call this website
www.burialforum.com and have two sections "I tried to copy Burial what do you think of my production" and "I bitch and moan about Burials work read my opinion if you want to its very valid", the mans a musician not a politician so relax guy!
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:43 pm
by goonstock
ourborial
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:23 pm
by feral witchchild
jackquinox wrote:Never fails to suprise me 50% of people spend all there time being Guardian journalists and roving their critical eye over burials work the other 50% try and copy burials work in their own productions
Burial doesn't own 2step, you know.
I hate this whole "Oh u got female vocals and 2step beats? lol u copy burial" mentality. Aphex Twin was fucking with tasteful female vocal sampling ("Xtal") waaaaay before anyone even knew who the fuck Burial was, and I consider that track an equally important influence.
Though I'm not saying that there aren't people out there who are trying to copy everything about Burial because there are...
Listen to this shit.
THAT's copying Burial.
Like, to the point where if I turn my speakers down so all I can hear is that basic beat from "TypicalCritical", my mind fills in the rest with "Unite".
Not what most 2step producers on here do.
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:47 pm
by dr h
haha, thats fucking shameless.
nice tunes though. better than burial has been putting out himself lately.
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:51 pm
by the wiggle baron
lol, no way thats actually for real?
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:54 pm
by feral witchchild
The Wiggle Baron wrote:
lol, no way thats actually for real?
Haha, yeah.
I agree with Dr. H, though, the tunes themselves are not TERRIBLE but just TOO Burial.
That's actually on the lower end of the whole Burial-biting spectrum. One producer in particular that I know of just completely ODs with it but out of decency I'm not going to say who it is.
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:57 pm
by dr h
admit it though, if those were actual burial tracks, you guys would love em
it's a shame people can rip off sounds so shamelessly like that (wisp's stuff on rephlex is a complete aphex rip to my ears for example), but if you can get past the obvious influence, they're solid tracks.
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 12:03 am
by feral witchchild
Dr H wrote:admit it though, if those were actual burial tracks, you guys would love em
Haha, probably.
it's a shame people can rip off sounds so shamelessly like that (wisp's stuff on rephlex is a complete aphex rip to my ears for example), but if you can get past the obvious influence, they're solid tracks.
IMO, there's a big difference between incorporating influences and just going out of your way to rip off someone's sound. Take VVV's music, for example, it has a lot of similarities to Burial's but I don't think anyone on this board (myself included) would go as far as to say he's a rip off. For one thing, VVV's style is just different, even if he uses the same elements as Burial in his tunes. Burial is sort of cold and raw, VVV is much more pleasant and clubby. Whether that's a good or bad thing depends wholly on your point of view, but I personally think it's awesome that he's really not trying to be Burial.