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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:06 pm
by pidge
johnthethird wrote:
pidge wrote: No one wants to hear a tune pitched up/down over 10bpm when you're mixin it, it sounds shit. If you make a tune at 125 no one is gonna play it because it will sound shit being mixed.
EXACTLY. One of my favorite "dubstep" tracks... EL-B's Colleen Remix... tune is at 125. Good luck playing that one out... if you try you ain't gonna beatmatch it in or out, or it'll sound like SHIT.
I agree about ott pitching up/down, but my opinion has changed slighty.

The stuff I really like these days always seems to be at 145bpm (King Cannibal, Jamie Vexd-Saturn's reply, Bruce stallion-Black Rims (Ebola Remix), Raffertie-Wobble horror!, Akira Kiteshi's hiphopy stuff) or 135 (Tipper-Swipe (Dub),Bruce Stallion-Bad pillz,The Squire Of Gothos, Slugabed-ODB, Akira Kiteshi-Noglitch) off the top of my head...
changing of 5 or so BpM can give quite a different rhythm I think. Just listen to the above^

140 half step has just been rinsed and I can only stand the very very best. theres more room for innovation above and below 140.

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:48 pm
by johnthethird
pidge wrote:
johnthethird wrote:
pidge wrote: No one wants to hear a tune pitched up/down over 10bpm when you're mixin it, it sounds shit. If you make a tune at 125 no one is gonna play it because it will sound shit being mixed.
EXACTLY. One of my favorite "dubstep" tracks... EL-B's Colleen Remix... tune is at 125. Good luck playing that one out... if you try you ain't gonna beatmatch it in or out, or it'll sound like SHIT.
I agree about ott pitching up/down, but my opinion has changed slighty.

The stuff I really like these days always seems to be at 145bpm (King Cannibal, Jamie Vexd-Saturn's reply, Bruce stallion-Black Rims (Ebola Remix), Raffertie-Wobble horror!, Akira Kiteshi's hiphopy stuff) or 135 (Tipper-Swipe (Dub),Bruce Stallion-Bad pillz,The Squire Of Gothos, Slugabed-ODB, Akira Kiteshi-Noglitch) off the top of my head...
changing of 5 or so BpM can give quite a different rhythm I think. Just listen to the above^

140 half step has just been rinsed and I can only stand the very very best. theres more room for innovation above and below 140.
145 is more than fine.. anything that you have to pitch more than +/- 8% is generally gonna sound like shite.. not to mention either moving the subs into mid/high range bass or just dropping the subs out all together (in the case of pitching too far down)

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:06 pm
by pidge
see thats where actual DJing comes in to it, ie tune selection. 140, then play a 142-143 tune then 145 then 147 etc

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:36 pm
by Pistonsbeneath
i think it should all be in 7/4 or 6/8 or maybe 7/4/5/2/8 and at an erratically varying 243bpm with gates on every drum hit, kick & cymbal that are designed to confuse you

that would ensure only the right people mix it

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:53 pm
by collige
Piston wrote:i think it should all be in 7/4 or 6/8 or maybe 7/4/5/2/8 and at an erratically varying 243bpm with gates on every drum hit, kick & cymbal that are designed to confuse you

that would ensure only the right people mix it
So basically, Venetian Snares is the only right person.

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:01 pm
by casso
Piston wrote:i think it should all be in 7/4 or 6/8 or maybe 7/4/5/2/8 and at an erratically varying 243bpm with gates on every drum hit, kick & cymbal that are designed to confuse you

that would ensure only the right people mix it
Ye, I'm sick of people thinking that they have the right to mix Dubstep...the nerve.

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:07 pm
by Pistonsbeneath
collige wrote:
Piston wrote:i think it should all be in 7/4 or 6/8 or maybe 7/4/5/2/8 and at an erratically varying 243bpm with gates on every drum hit, kick & cymbal that are designed to confuse you

that would ensure only the right people mix it
So basically, Venetian Snares is the only right person.
and xanopticon

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:07 am
by WatchYourStep
casso wrote:
Piston wrote:i think it should all be in 7/4 or 6/8 or maybe 7/4/5/2/8 and at an erratically varying 243bpm with gates on every drum hit, kick & cymbal that are designed to confuse you

that would ensure only the right people mix it
Ye, I'm sick of people thinking that they have the right to mix Dubstep...the nerve.
No shit. fuck, where do people get on this high horse?

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 3:49 am
by dj instigate
this thread is JOKES :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 3:50 am
by dj instigate
casso wrote:
Piston wrote:i think it should all be in 7/4 or 6/8 or maybe 7/4/5/2/8 and at an erratically varying 243bpm with gates on every drum hit, kick & cymbal that are designed to confuse you

that would ensure only the right people mix it
Ye, I'm sick of people thinking that they have the right to mix Dubstep...the nerve.
:lol:

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:14 am
by jsilver
i make all my tunes at 140 because i love dubstep and i love fruity loops and and FL initializes at 140 so it was made for dubstep and if i were going to change it i would probably only change it ONE CENT :)

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:59 am
by _boring
jsilver wrote:i make all my tunes at 140 because i love dubstep and i love fruity loops and and FL initializes at 140 so it was made for dubstep and if i were going to change it i would probably only change it ONE CENT :)
:o :o :o :o :o :lol: :?:

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:32 am
by Pistonsbeneath
eriegz wrote:
casso wrote:
Piston wrote:i think it should all be in 7/4 or 6/8 or maybe 7/4/5/2/8 and at an erratically varying 243bpm with gates on every drum hit, kick & cymbal that are designed to confuse you

that would ensure only the right people mix it
Ye, I'm sick of people thinking that they have the right to mix Dubstep...the nerve.
No shit. fuck, where do people get on this high horse?
you are not even ze american but ze canadian but ze sarcazm iz lozt

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:01 pm
by NilsFG
So how are things going today?
I think I'm feeling a bit 141 today, I should go see a doctor.

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:10 pm
by subindex
Piston wrote:i think it should all be in 7/4 or 6/8 or maybe 7/4/5/2/8 and at an erratically varying 243bpm with gates on every drum hit, kick & cymbal that are designed to confuse you

that would ensure only the right people mix it

lol

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:28 am
by fractal
I try to include a variety of tempos in my sets but have yet to venture above 150...

Re: 140 bpm?

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:31 pm
by sigbowls
has anyone invented something that changes the bpm without the tune sounding like crap?

Re: 140 bpm?

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:36 pm
by badger
yeah it's called a tune that changes bpm :P

there's a few of them about but a lot of producer/DJs make their own as tools for mixing different stuff

Re: 140 bpm?

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:23 pm
by jay-mee
Just use a set of belt drives like me....then even if all your tunes are 140bpm you still need to fuck with the pitch cos the dam belts are so old n shit they go at what eva speed they want......

PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!

Re: 140 bpm?

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:26 pm
by DZA
jay-mee wrote:Just use a set of belt drives like me

:lol: