Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:02 pm
i am 100% sure that isnt the wow filter hahaha.
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Wow, thats sick as fuck. Who is that? I enjoyed both tracks, really solid.asembled wrote:This is as closest i've heard to that SMANS growly texture. No dubstep tho.
https://soundcloud.com/phoark
He's clearly using massive and not using ohmicide, which would give u the closest SMANS texture, but that is some really nice productionasembled wrote:This is as closest i've heard to that SMANS growly texture. No dubstep tho.
https://soundcloud.com/phoark
No, me too.blinkesko wrote:Am I the only one that just didnt feel it at all?
The same happened to me when I listened to SMANS, but then I heard it on a live PA and it was awesome (yes, i've seen Skrillex live, went with mates and enjoyed it).mthrfnk wrote:No, me too.blinkesko wrote:Am I the only one that just didnt feel it at all?
It sounds fucking horrendous on my monitors & sub. The fact that the whole midrange is completely mono is off-putting from the start. The distortion is overbearing too.
Having said that it sounds okay on my crappy laptop speakers where midrange sounds dominate and you lose stereo perception, depends what you're listening on I suppose haha.
I'd agree about too much width/stereo can ruin some stuff, but at least SMANS has other elements filling out the stereo space, not to mention a very clear sub. The growls in SMANS definitely do have some stereo width as well, but the low end is securely centred for sure (probably done using iZotopes Imager) and to me it's still one of the best souding growl-based songs listening on my decent setup (as lame as that sounds).hookey wrote:The same happened to me when I listened to SMANS, but then I heard it on a live PA and it was awesome (yes, i've seen Skrillex live, went with mates and enjoyed it).mthrfnk wrote:No, me too.blinkesko wrote:Am I the only one that just didnt feel it at all?
It sounds fucking horrendous on my monitors & sub. The fact that the whole midrange is completely mono is off-putting from the start. The distortion is overbearing too.
Having said that it sounds okay on my crappy laptop speakers where midrange sounds dominate and you lose stereo perception, depends what you're listening on I suppose haha.
Later on I figured the whole growl is basically mono. Big stereo midrange basslines sound like garbage on live scenareos.
Btw the other track (Radiossor) sounds great to me. Slick production on there, punchy kick and bass, sounds fat (im using headphones)
The growl in SMANS and that growl is just not comparable imo. It's way too messy and sounds like it's straight out of massive with a parabolic shaper on 100%. SMANS growl will continue to be one of two growls I never think will be outdone, the other being the one in the San Diego VIP, by skrillex again. technically just fukin brilliant in my earsmthrfnk wrote:I'd agree about too much width/stereo can ruin some stuff, but at least SMANS has other elements filling out the stereo space, not to mention a very clear sub. The growls in SMANS definitely do have some stereo width as well, but the low end is securely centred for sure (probably done using iZotopes Imager) and to me it's still one of the best souding growl-based songs listening on my decent setup (as lame as that sounds).hookey wrote:The same happened to me when I listened to SMANS, but then I heard it on a live PA and it was awesome (yes, i've seen Skrillex live, went with mates and enjoyed it).mthrfnk wrote:No, me too.blinkesko wrote:Am I the only one that just didnt feel it at all?
It sounds fucking horrendous on my monitors & sub. The fact that the whole midrange is completely mono is off-putting from the start. The distortion is overbearing too.
Having said that it sounds okay on my crappy laptop speakers where midrange sounds dominate and you lose stereo perception, depends what you're listening on I suppose haha.
Later on I figured the whole growl is basically mono. Big stereo midrange basslines sound like garbage on live scenareos.
Btw the other track (Radiossor) sounds great to me. Slick production on there, punchy kick and bass, sounds fat (im using headphones)
Those phoark tracks are technically well made, its just the midrange to me has way too much upper frequency content and not enough clear low end, also because literally everything is centred it just sounds a bit shit to me (it would probably have sounded good like a year ago but meh).
If it's moderately commercial i.e. most generic loud/agressive house and dubstep music, it gets signedhookey wrote:Yeah, Skrillex is the don when it comes to growls, but these were pretty decent, usually most people just suck at it.
PS:Listening to UMF TV Live now watching Ultra Fest... these 2 tracks and a couple producers on this forum are far better than most of the shit im hearing. How can such shit get signed and promoted to these levels is beyond me.
You meant 5x worse right?AntidoteWasTaken wrote:For me, It seems I can just take a decent bass, slap a vocoder over it of me just making vowel-y bass sound with my mouth, and BAM and its 5x better
You really think so though? I'm not saying you're wrong, a lot of your growls are dope but sometimes I think that a vocoder can really beef up the low/low mids and make a sound really round and thick. I never use a modulator though, just run it straight through Vocodex and mess with formant, band width and # of bands and then usually freq split before that so I can keep the high end from the dry signal and blend them both so it doesn't get muddy like you say. I think it can definately smooth things out sometimes, but otoh my growls aren't the punchy in your face-type so I guess maybe it's just different styles.mromgwtf wrote: You meant 5x worse right?
All a vocoder will do, is it'll make your signal sound muddy as shit.
Never use a vocoder.
Well aren't you a tnuc. What's good and bad depends on the subject and the subjects opinion. You make it seem like you have the definite answer to a perfect growl and the way to get it, but the reality is that there is no set-in-stone way to a perfect growl from any startpoint. A vocoder can make a sound sound better, if not to you, to someone else.mromgwtf wrote:You meant 5x worse right?AntidoteWasTaken wrote:For me, It seems I can just take a decent bass, slap a vocoder over it of me just making vowel-y bass sound with my mouth, and BAM and its 5x better
All a vocoder will do, is it'll make your signal sound muddy as shit.
Never use a vocoder.