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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:01 pm
by Phatscout
mthrfnk wrote:
PhotonOfficial wrote:BOOM. Kill The Noise growl. Made this tonight and i'm pretty happy with the result. I used massive simply because I heard that Kill The Noise uses it.

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It proves to be very versatile and the vowels are easily morphed. I finally think i'm getting somewhere lol
Its so.... wet :P
I'm gonna guess.. M-Talk with Bend+/-. I've gotten similar sounds like KTN doing that so..... Did I get it right?

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:30 pm
by PhotonOfficial
FatScout wrote:
mthrfnk wrote:
PhotonOfficial wrote:BOOM. Kill The Noise growl. Made this tonight and i'm pretty happy with the result. I used massive simply because I heard that Kill The Noise uses it.

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It proves to be very versatile and the vowels are easily morphed. I finally think i'm getting somewhere lol
Its so.... wet :P
I'm gonna guess.. M-Talk with Bend+/-. I've gotten similar sounds like KTN doing that so..... Did I get it right?
Nope, I used Melofant automating a band reject filter, some vowel eq automation and wave table position automation. Tweaked to taste.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:01 am
by mromgwtf
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I reuploaded it to soundcloud because no one likes downloading mp3s :corndance:

What can be improved? When I listen to it it reminds me of a dumpster, I dunno why lol.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:42 pm
by Phatscout
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I made this using a single M-Talk oscillator. No, I'm not even kidding (and I didn't use Phase Modulation either).

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:32 pm
by mthrfnk
Some squelchy shit I made today:

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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:46 pm
by Sure_Fire
mthrfnk wrote:Some squelchy shit I made today:

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That could sound cool with a pretty resonant high pass on it doing some automation slightly out of sync with the main modulation. maybe some more distortion aswell, I'd chuck ohmicide with a nioz-e on the low mid band with pretty low gain. Sounds pretty cool on this kinda stuff.

Also, that high pitched bleepy/screamy thing is really cool.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:22 am
by Kongret
I decided to share a few tricks about growl processing, layering and such. I'm not a native english speak so expect a few language failures here and there.
Growl sound i'm gonna be explaining starts at 1:10
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Growl itself is made using Dan Larsson's tutorial from youtube with a few tweaks here and there, but it sounds kinda raw if you leave it without further processing. To add a little more bass besides the usual sine sub with dist and whatnot I added low bass sound at F2 with added fifth to spice things a bit.
Growls themselves are similar to distorted guitars playing riffs and such, so i decided to try a few tricks from rock/metal world. Most of those didn't work at all but the one thing that added quite a bit of spice was impulse response.
Impulse responses are created to emulate famous guitar cabinets to use at home studios. If you apply them to growls and if the timbre is right sound beefs up quite a bit, impulses add quite a bit of mud so eq is very important here.
To use impulses you need something like space designer if you use logic.
Windows users can download free LePou ones here http://lepouplugins.blogspot.ru/ it's called LeCab2.
You can also download awesome free distortion for both mac and pc there.
Here is the impulse pack i collected myself.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71126574/Impulse.zip

Second sound is not exactly growl but i thought that you guys are gonna be interested.
It starts at 1:10 too and continues through the drop
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Patch itself is kinda shit. Just wobbling modern talking or something like that. I didn't know anything about synthesis a year ago so i made this! :cornlol:
http://i.imgur.com/997S1O9.png
Essential thing here is good guitar distortion, which you can find anywhere these days. I used pod farm 2, but line 6 vst/au is buggy shit now, so you can use poulins or guitar rig or whatever. But the amp itself turns the sound into a complete mess of distorted highs and thats it. To sound good(or at least decent) you need a cab, so I used impulses again.
I also didn't know much about stereo width back then so I've done it guitar way again. This method requires two instances of the same sound panned left and right and then eq'd a little bit differently to create width. Now i just use izotope image :6:
There are also layers of sub and bass.
Hope someone is gonna read this lol :corndance:

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:24 am
by Kongret
double post. Whoops.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:33 pm
by mromgwtf
Every kind of distortion heard in iZotope Trash / Ohmicide can be recreated in FL's waveshaper. :4:

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:58 pm
by mromgwtf
mthrfnk wrote:Some squelchy shit I made today:

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Frequency shifter. :4:

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:57 pm
by skyu
I think I did it: Soundcloud

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:11 pm
by mthrfnk
mromgwtf wrote:
mthrfnk wrote:Some squelchy shit I made today:

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Frequency shifter. :4:
I've never used it before, it's actually awesome once you play with it ;-)

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:14 pm
by charles1
mromgwtf wrote:Frequency shifter. :4:
Ableton's frequency shifter??

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:17 pm
by PhotonOfficial
Dee Reck wrote:I think I did it: Soundcloud
Some of the growls are a bit muddy but you definitely are on the right track, would you please explain how you made them?

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:32 pm
by mthrfnk
charles1 wrote:
mromgwtf wrote:Frequency shifter. :4:
Ableton's frequency shifter??
Massives.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:20 pm
by prototype0937

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:39 pm
by mthrfnk
prototype0937 wrote:this is my xkore growl :D
https://soundcloud.com/mikel-mandi/xkore-growl-style
Sounds cool bro, deets?

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:56 pm
by somepony
Dee Reck wrote:I think I did it: Soundcloud
HOW??

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:02 am
by Toolman4
ok, so check it...

@PhotonOfficial: That sound design, given you're trying to recreated some KTN shit, is a bit distant and kinda messy. Trying working with notching out 400-600khz, no phase modulation, or a lot less, etc...it's very 'wet' as someone has described, but a better word is messy. If you can go back to the synthesis stage and get it more 'tight' and then effect it properly (Flangers/vowel filtering or eq-ing are a major part of getting the upper harmonics to accentuate), you'll be a LOT closer..

@Mromgwtf, FatScout, and mthrfnk: All three of you have done some descent bass design, mthrfnk showcases it best in 'context' with other elements, but honestly...at the end of the day, those sounds need to be taken further. None really emulate others that were mentioned before (KTN, XkOre)....but those have some serious potential...push those bitches :P

@Dee Reck: Close enough to feel satisfied imo. They are quite dry atm...split those freqs, modulate some serious fx business and you're going to have some nice shizzit. It's kinda what I reccommend PhotonOfficial (which btw, his aren't as muddy as yours...you should re-listen and see what I'm talking about :) ) to do to his first attempt on this page....Reck's sounds are a lot 'tighter' but need some more wet effects/ eq-ing the upper harmonics to make those sounds seriously KILLER!...cheers homie

P.S. Once you do that, this track overall needs some work but your hard work is commendable :)

Cheers all :)

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:13 pm
by PhotonOfficial
Haha i've definitely had more than one attempt dude but thanks anyways. I have actually fitted a lot of these growls into a few WIPs of mine so if you want to hear them in context I will show you when they are done. Here are a few different growls of mine.

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