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I'm pretty sure i'm just going to buy suite 8 and just upgrade whenever 9 happens, might loose a few quid but can't resist!

Sup folks, first post here. I recently started learning Ableton, but one thing I can't find, is a way to detune seperate oscillators in Operator. Is this even possible in Operator?

yeah man you use the coarse, fine and level knobs for each corresponding oscillator on the left side of the operator

nowaysj wrote:Hey, so what is up with Massive and Ableton? Totally legit Massive, but haven't upgraded in many long time, am at 1.1.4. Are there issues? I find Massive to behave erratically, sometimes with no output, or very low output. Is this something worth upgrading Massive for, really don't like to upgrade unless there is a problem?

there are several issues with 1.1.4 including being unable to automate LFO rates with the configure button in ableton, you should definitely upgrade to 1.1.5

dbaxx wrote:yeah man you use the coarse, fine and level knobs for each corresponding oscillator on the left side of the operator

Yeah, that was a fail on my part. I started fucking with it right after I posted that and figured it out. Thanks anyway man.

i think suite version is worth it to have sampler and operator, although i guess you can buy normal edition and buy them as addons, wouldn't worry about having to relearn stuff for 9. one thing with ableton is that they are consistent in the way they do things, therefore even if there is a huge rewrite new features will still fit their way of working. everything you learn in 8 will still be useful and it'll just be a case of learning a new feature rather than a new way of working.

A friend of mine was showing me Logic earlier, and in that he puts each drum into a sampler for the tune. Should I be doing this on Ableton for each individual drum? Putting it in sampler first?

Also, I swear Logic actually sounded better straight off the bat even without a fuck-ton of compression / EQ in comparison to Ableton. Would I be wrong in thinking this? Soundcard difference?

Perej wrote:A friend of mine was showing me Logic earlier, and in that he puts each drum into a sampler for the tune. Should I be doing this on Ableton for each individual drum? Putting it in sampler first?

Also, I swear Logic actually sounded better straight off the bat even without a fuck-ton of compression / EQ in comparison to Ableton. Would I be wrong in thinking this? Soundcard difference?

logics drums/synths have alot of presets on them like compression and limiters and sometimes eqs &reverb etc. which is good ... but just means you dont learn as much about how everything works as its less needed. In ableton you start from scratch and have to use your own skill to get a nice mixdown and nice sounding synths which will help in the long run.

Perej wrote:Also, I swear Logic actually sounded better straight off the bat even without a fuck-ton of compression / EQ in comparison to Ableton. Would I be wrong in thinking this? Soundcard difference?

Did he use the same samples that you did? Start there.

Aren't Logic's faders set at 0 = -6dbfs. Tricking users into retaining headroom. Probably why it sounds better.

Perej wrote:A friend of mine was showing me Logic earlier, and in that he puts each drum into a sampler for the tune. Should I be doing this on Ableton for each individual drum? Putting it in sampler first?

Also, I swear Logic actually sounded better straight off the bat even without a fuck-ton of compression / EQ in comparison to Ableton. Would I be wrong in thinking this? Soundcard difference?

When using drum racks, the drum samples you put in it will automatically be loaded into simpler or sampler and there you can pitch them and alter the release decay loop length etc.

nowaysj wrote:Aren't Logic's faders set at 0 = -6dbfs. Tricking users into retaining headroom. Probably why it sounds better.

Do you mean 0 or -6? thats confusing. Aren't Ableton's set to the same though anyway?

Perej wrote:

nowaysj wrote:Aren't Logic's faders set at 0 = -6dbfs. Tricking users into retaining headroom. Probably why it sounds better.

Do you mean 0 or -6? thats confusing. Aren't Ableton's set to the same though anyway?

pretty sure 0=0 in ableton

Ah ok cheers. One more question, in other peoples experience, is it possible to have crisp professional sounding drums straight off the bat without any EQ/Compression? I find I have to add alot of each to get my drums sounding fat.

Thanks.

Perej wrote:Ah ok cheers. One more question, in other peoples experience, is it possible to have crisp professional sounding drums straight off the bat without any EQ/Compression? I find I have to add alot of each to get my drums sounding fat.

Thanks.

its possible but hard to find the perfect one that you are looking for. EQ also is needed to make it fit in the mix and not just make it crisp. If you have to add alot try equing two or three samples together and compressing them.

Hey guys

I'm gonna have my first DJ Show in 3 days and I wanted to ask a question about DJing in Ableton.
I got all the songs prepared, warped and stuff, but they all have different volume levels. Is there any way to make them quicky equally loud? Or do I have to mess with every clip's volume?

invictus wrote:Hey guys

I'm gonna have my first DJ Show in 3 days and I wanted to ask a question about DJing in Ableton.
I got all the songs prepared, warped and stuff, but they all have different volume levels. Is there any way to make them quicky equally loud? Or do I have to mess with every clip's volume?

every clip or every song?

every song.
I have them on two audio tracks' clips

invictus wrote:every song.
I have them on two audio tracks' clips

then just highlight every clip in a song and drag the volume faders down to make it as loud as the others

oh, okay. won't that damage the quality or sth?