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JBoy wrote:Plastician was acting high and mighty and his sets have been too shit for too long for me to even care that hes spat his dummy out and gone. Guaranteed he still has a lurker account anyway.

you hear his oldskool set last week?

i do have to say that was a pretty tight selection.

yeeeeeeee

inb4wiley


zomby vs. wiley on twitter would be like clash of the titans

soulkids wrote:inb4wiley


zomby vs. wiley on twitter would be like clash of the titans

mad tune though

Pedro Sánchez wrote:

Suangi wrote:

Smoked Chief wrote:"Good artists copy, great artists steal."
- Steve Jobs, in Pirates of Silicon Valley (1999)

pretty sure Jobs stole that quote from Stravinsky

I'm sure it was Picasso, but it's a fucking ludicrous quote regardless. It should read 'Average artists copy, great artist are inspired'

agreed.

As a means of apology to the people he pissed off (I'm pretty neutral here, reark got his dues it seems) I reckon Zomby should drop a big ass zip file of all them eski tings

not trying to justify anything, just putting it out there

loop by múm (although sbtrkt never sold this tune....)

fractal wrote:

loop by múm (although sbtrkt never sold this tune....)

at least he added drums and a bassline and gave it new life, and like you said, he never sold it. i don't think that's comparable to what zomby did at all, which was taking someone else's work, not really changing or adding anything, and then calling it his own. and then being cheeky enough to get it released

bah, that's just one example in a scene filled with them. guess no one was around in the eighties,,,

one of my favorite hip hop producers, 9th wonder, makes beats straight out of loops and get's paid for all of em

just curious as to how y'all feel about dilla? he made a lot of changes to loops but also just used loops straight up... or is it acceptable in hip hop? curious as to where you guys draw your lines

Dillas name doesnt belong here. The issue is not sampling.

CaveLvl wrote:Dillas name doesnt belong here.

Why not?

what was the name of that dub tune rusko put a bassline & snare on? then tried to pass it off as his own?

Was Dilla ever involved in anything like this situation with Zomby and Reark? If he was then i could see how it would apply.

If Dilla ever started a collaboration with a dude, and then just took the other guys work and released it with no intention of crediting the guy who made it, then I guess that would apply.

fractal wrote:bah, that's just one example in a scene filled with them. guess no one was around in the eighties,,,

one of my favorite hip hop producers, 9th wonder, makes beats straight out of loops and get's paid for all of em

just curious as to how y'all feel about dilla? he made a lot of changes to loops but also just used loops straight up... or is it acceptable in hip hop? curious as to where you guys draw your lines

what can't you understand about the difference between sampling and stealing?

Listen to what Reark has posted, actually listen to it, now tell me what Zomby did was just 'sampling'. He's literally just cut the intro, took out some vocal, and added little edits to the drums. That's it. The main body, content, synths, concept, and emotion of the track came from Reark. Yet Zomby feels entitled to release the track under his own name, openly brag about writing it himself, then profit of it without even the slightest credit to it's creator.

How anyone can compare that to cutting up a sample of something and interpreting it into an original piece of music is beyond me. It's not even a copyright/legality issue here, it's the moral bankruptcy of it.

No offence, but anyone who thinks Zomby is in no way in the wrong here is a dickhead. This is pure theft.

^this

Lucifa wrote:

fractal wrote:bah, that's just one example in a scene filled with them. guess no one was around in the eighties,,,

one of my favorite hip hop producers, 9th wonder, makes beats straight out of loops and get's paid for all of em

just curious as to how y'all feel about dilla? he made a lot of changes to loops but also just used loops straight up... or is it acceptable in hip hop? curious as to where you guys draw your lines

what can't you understand about the difference between sampling and stealing?

Listen to what Reark has posted, actually listen to it, now tell me what Zomby did was just 'sampling'. He's literally just cut the intro, took out some vocal, and added little edits to the drums. That's it. The main body, content, synths, concept, and emotion of the track came from Reark. Yet Zomby feels entitled to release the track under his own name, openly brag about writing it himself, then profit of it without even the slightest credit to it's creator.

How anyone can compare that to cutting up a sample of something and interpreting it into an original piece of music is beyond me. It's not even a copyright/legality issue here, it's the moral bankruptcy of it.

No offence, but anyone who thinks Zomby is in no way in the wrong here is a dickhead. This is pure theft.

are you Reark?

Lucifa wrote:

fractal wrote:bah, that's just one example in a scene filled with them. guess no one was around in the eighties,,,

one of my favorite hip hop producers, 9th wonder, makes beats straight out of loops and get's paid for all of em

just curious as to how y'all feel about dilla? he made a lot of changes to loops but also just used loops straight up... or is it acceptable in hip hop? curious as to where you guys draw your lines

what can't you understand about the difference between sampling and stealing?

Listen to what Reark has posted, actually listen to it, now tell me what Zomby did was just 'sampling'. He's literally just cut the intro, took out some vocal, and added little edits to the drums. That's it. The main body, content, synths, concept, and emotion of the track came from Reark. Yet Zomby feels entitled to release the track under his own name, openly brag about writing it himself, then profit of it without even the slightest credit to it's creator.

How anyone can compare that to cutting up a sample of something and interpreting it into an original piece of music is beyond me. It's not even a copyright/legality issue here, it's the moral bankruptcy of it.

No offence, but anyone who thinks Zomby is in no way in the wrong here is a dickhead. This is pure theft.

well said.
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