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r33lc4sh wrote:imho it's much harder to make innovative sounding breakbeat than to make innovative half-step
everything was said in case of breaks
but halfstep is still kind of a musical terra incognita
freedom of work and space u have gives u much more for your experiments than 140bpm rolling breakbeat

Leofah - i wrote this earlier in this thread and that's what i think

LOEFAH wrote:

R33l wrote:imho halfstep is much easier to produce and that's the main reason it is so popular among producers

u reckon?

haha, go on Dubmugga, try and convince Loefah that you're the future of dubstep!

7 below - it was me not dubmugga

r33lc4sh wrote:7 below - it was me not dubmugga

sorry dude, my personal opinion -

its easier to be convincing doing full speed beats, but harder to make it really interesting without sounding over the top... erm I guess thats sitting on the fence!

personally i like mixture of both - halfstep made of chopped breaks

LOEFAH wrote:

R33l wrote:imho halfstep is much easier to produce and that's the main reason it is so popular among producers

u reckon?

why then are there hardly any nu fullsteppas coming through the likes of SLT mob and S&D but a plethora of dublike halfsteppas ???

...personally I'd like to hear blackdown make a fullsteppa

dubmugga wrote:

LOEFAH wrote:

R33l wrote:imho halfstep is much easier to produce and that's the main reason it is so popular among producers

u reckon?

why then are there hardly any nu fullsteppas coming through the likes of SLT mob and S&D but a plethora of dublike halfsteppas ???

...personally I'd like to hear blackdown make a fullsteppa

You officially mugged yourself

actually i'd like to hear loefah himself, scuba and skream even make full toasty/vexd/boxcutter like 138 steppas...

...but if they have already i'd like to hear em

a phantom post?

in my humble opinion there's halfstep and halfstep...
personally i think the scene needs more worked halfstep beats like boxcutter or toasty make.

dubmugga wrote:actually i'd like to hear loefah himself, scuba and skream even make full toasty/vexd/boxcutter like 138 steppas...

...but if they have already i'd like to hear em

Why should they have to? There's plenty of breaky producers coming through dude - Dubchild, Quiet Storm, all the storming camp guys...

In my eyes, that's a totally different scene. When I think of 'fullsteppas' (as you call them ) I think of early tempa stuff - Dub War, Horsepower etc.

UFO over easy wrote: Why should they have to? There's plenty of breaky producers coming through dude - Dubchild, Quiet Storm, all the storming camp guys...

but they play sth i'd rather call "slowed down d'n'b" not "dark breakbeat garage"

UFO over easy wrote:

dubmugga wrote:actually i'd like to hear loefah himself, scuba and skream even make full toasty/vexd/boxcutter like 138 steppas...

...but if they have already i'd like to hear em

Why should they have to? There's plenty of breaky producers coming through dude - Dubchild, Quiet Storm, all the storming camp guys...

In my eyes, that's a totally different scene. When I think of 'fullsteppas' (as you call them ) I think of early tempa stuff - Dub War, Horsepower etc.

no ones saying they have to...

...but I'm betting toasty/vexd/boxcutter/quiet storm can make halfsteppas a lot easier than i bet loefah/skream/scuba/mala can make fullsteppas

I'm not really part of the "scene" but the fact that there is a lot of crossover with labels like hotflush and storming between the full and halfstep camp in my eyes says it's just one big genre collectively known as dubstep...

..cos i still think that breakstep is what baobinga/quest/mutiny/darqwan etc make and that is more in line with breaks than dubstep and what r33l mentioned as slowed down d'n'b

dubmugga wrote:

UFO over easy wrote:

dubmugga wrote:actually i'd like to hear loefah himself, scuba and skream even make full toasty/vexd/boxcutter like 138 steppas...

...but if they have already i'd like to hear em

Why should they have to? There's plenty of breaky producers coming through dude - Dubchild, Quiet Storm, all the storming camp guys...

In my eyes, that's a totally different scene. When I think of 'fullsteppas' (as you call them ) I think of early tempa stuff - Dub War, Horsepower etc.

no ones saying they have to...


...but I'm betting toasty/vexd/boxcutter/quiet storm can make halfsteppas a lot easier than i bet loefah/skream/scuba/mala can make fullsteppas

I'm not really part of the "scene" but the fact that there is a lot of crossover with labels like hotflush and storming between the full and halfstep camp in my eyes says it's just one big genre collectively known as dubstep...

..cos i still think that breakstep is what baobinga/quest/mutiny/darqwan etc make and that is more in line with breaks than dubstep and what r33l mentioned as slowed down d'n'b

IM BETTING U CANT MAKE A TUNE AS GOOD AS ANYONE U MENTIONED THERE ..

now now, settle petal

i've been warned to be on my best behaviour or i'll get banned by the thought police, i mean moderators so don't antagonise me...

...but if you'd listen to our stuff as just music without petty personal prejudice against me you'd hear that we already have

say were'nt you fluffing around making wannabe dubstep also ???

either way making decent full or halfsteppas is no easy thing as I'm sure you found out

dubmugga wrote:...but if you'd listen to our stuff as just music without petty personal prejudice against me you'd hear that we already have

NO. Not at all ... and you can add J_J s name to the list of people who make better beats than you ... cos,

Chef wrote:
You officially mugged yourself

AGAIN !!!

lol ur a prick mate ...ur over inflated ego and ur ridiculous opinions dnt go unnoticed on here.ur always bangin on about bein some big boy producer and no one plays ur tunes lol .. u just look stupid ...i wont unfortunately for you, entertain ur shite .

oh however will i sleep at night doomy...

...so lets hear JJ's beats then

there ya go an open invitation to promote your stuff in the put up or shut up style...

...and let's try and keep the insults to a bare minimum eh ???

as for the opinions they arent supposed to go unnoticed and i don't think I've ever referred to us "big boy producers" sounds a bit ghey if you ask me...

...the fact is I think dubstep is the one genre that's pushing the boundaries of contemporary electronica by slowing the beats to halftime but it appears to be stuck in a rut as to where to next

now as part of a relatively few in number group of artists working sometimes in halfstep we are offering our direction as something new in a relatively new genre...

...if you don't like it, fine it's all subjective anyway but let's do at least try and be mature, intelligent about our opinions and criticisms

the other fact is unfortunately, you don't even know me and looking stupid on the internet only equates to words on a screen again. It doesn't affect who i am and what i do in the real world...

zzzzzzzzz

^^^yup...

...the most mature and intelligently constructive post yet from you

ididn't really expect you to post up your take on the halfstep anyway...

dubmugga wrote:i've been warned to be on my best behaviour or i'll get banned by the thought police, i mean moderators

dont push it, you've been asked nicely